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Title: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: ducatiz on July 25, 2010, 04:52:27 PM
The rear mudguard on my SS uses these big-headed truss screws.  I want something similar to replace a few that are rusted.

I've looked around my regular suppliers and they got nothing:  Mdmetric, alliedmetric, etc

ANyone?

M6
10-14mm thread
Truss head socket (14-16mm wide)
8.8 or better. 
need ZiCr coating or better


ANYONE?
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: Goggles Pizano on July 25, 2010, 05:07:55 PM
No experience on that particular size, but have you tried fastenal, grainger or mcmaster-carr?  Seems they can get most anything (In stainless too), just need to order it from them.  And you would need to buy a bags worth, they won't sell you just 1 or 2 of a special order...
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: He Man on July 25, 2010, 05:35:02 PM
cant u just replace all of them withsomething thats not a truss head?
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: Speeddog on July 25, 2010, 05:44:28 PM
Try Metric Multistandard Component Co, MMCC.
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: DarkStaR on July 25, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
http://www.probolt-usa.com/Products/stainless_steel_Other_Parts-kits (http://www.probolt-usa.com/Products/stainless_steel_Other_Parts-kits)
(http://www.probolt-usa.com/image.php?width=130&height=130&filename=ssmudhug.jpg&category=0005000c0009)
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: ducatiz on July 26, 2010, 03:02:35 AM
Thanks for the links guys.

And yes, Kui, I need to replace them with the same.  I am anal like that. 

I'm not a big fan of "stainless" anymore.  Most of the stainless sold is crap A2.  Plus, this screw is the retainer for the rear mudguard which would look goofy with silver-polished screws holding the black in.  That's just me.
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: ducatiz on July 26, 2010, 03:10:43 AM
wow, pro-bolt has good stuff but is expensive.  they have aluminum M6 dome (they call them dome, i was taught "truss") screws for around $1.50 each..

i get titanium rotor bolts for the same price in quantity.. wow
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: corey on July 26, 2010, 03:03:13 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 26, 2010, 03:02:35 AM
Thanks for the links guys.

And yes, Kui, I need to replace them with the same.  I am anal like that. 

I'm not a big fan of "stainless" anymore.  Most of the stainless sold is crap A2.  Plus, this screw is the retainer for the rear mudguard which would look goofy with silver-polished screws holding the black in.  That's just me.

all of the stainless sold on pro-bolt is 316. significantly stronger than 8.8
I have a few of they're stainless dome-heads doing nothing but filling holes on my triple clamp. love them.
also have stainless caliper bolts (tapered-socket head) from them as well.
they're stuff is nice, but takes a while to get to your door.
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: Ducnial on July 26, 2010, 03:12:01 PM
Try McMaster Carr

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/3118/=84uv9m (http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/3118/=84uv9m)

They make-em in metric too


Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: Langanobob on July 26, 2010, 04:17:55 PM
Ducatiz,

I have yet another suggestion.  I have an Arctic Cat ATV that uses those kind of screws to hold the plastic mudguards on and they're black to match the plastic.  If there is an ATV dealer nearby it might maybe be worth checking in the parts department... Maybe.
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: Speeddog on July 26, 2010, 07:08:48 PM
I think Langanobob has the best idea so far.  [beer]
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: Howie on July 27, 2010, 02:56:18 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 26, 2010, 03:10:43 AM
wow, pro-bolt has good stuff but is expensive.  they have aluminum M6 dome (they call them dome, i was taught "truss") screws for around $1.50 each..

i get titanium rotor bolts for the same price in quantity.. wow

They are also called oven or stove bolts and can sometimes be found in appliance repair supply stores, but don't expect 8.8.
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: ducatiz on July 27, 2010, 03:09:06 AM
Quote from: howie on July 27, 2010, 02:56:18 AM
They are also called oven or stove bolts and can sometimes be found in appliance repair supply stores, but don't expect 8.8.

you mean don't expect metric?   [bang]

Quote from: Langanobob on July 26, 2010, 04:17:55 PM
Ducatiz,

I have yet another suggestion.  I have an Arctic Cat ATV that uses those kind of screws to hold the plastic mudguards on and they're black to match the plastic.  If there is an ATV dealer nearby it might maybe be worth checking in the parts department... Maybe.

any chance you can pull one and measure it?
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: Langanobob on July 29, 2010, 09:16:18 AM
Ducatiz,

Sorry, I have been running 'round in circles getting ready for a 6 week work stint in Nicaragua, starting with a 0600 flight tomorrow morning.  The bolt head diameter is about 13mm and I *think* the threads are 6mm by whatever the common 6mm pitch is.  Sorry I'm not able to be of more help.  If I get caught up I'll pull one of the bolts and due a scientific laser reflective resonance survey of the thread pitch.

Bob
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: ducatiz on July 29, 2010, 10:50:39 AM
Quote from: Langanobob on July 29, 2010, 09:16:18 AM
Ducatiz,

Sorry, I have been running 'round in circles getting ready for a 6 week work stint in Nicaragua, starting with a 0600 flight tomorrow morning.  The bolt head diameter is about 13mm and I *think* the threads are 6mm by whatever the common 6mm pitch is.  Sorry I'm not able to be of more help.  If I get caught up I'll pull one of the bolts and due a scientific laser reflective resonance survey of the thread pitch.

Bob

ROFL

No rush, I was just curious about the head width and the length.  M6 is usually 1mm pitch.  I just wanted to make sure it was approximately the right size.  thanks bro
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: Raux on July 30, 2010, 09:51:30 AM
Quote from: Ducnial on July 26, 2010, 03:12:01 PM
Try McMaster Carr

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/3118/=84uv9m (http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/3118/=84uv9m)

They make-em in metric too




their prices are pretty good  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: DarkStaR on August 01, 2010, 02:48:28 PM
http://www.shop.bevelheaven.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=48 (http://www.shop.bevelheaven.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=48)

(http://www.shop.bevelheaven.com/images/1-6mm-LG-black.jpg)
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: ducatiz on August 01, 2010, 03:57:12 PM
Quote from: DarkStaR on August 01, 2010, 02:48:28 PM
http://www.shop.bevelheaven.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=48 (http://www.shop.bevelheaven.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=48)

(http://www.shop.bevelheaven.com/images/1-6mm-LG-black.jpg)

M6 Truss-head socket screws
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: ChrisH on August 02, 2010, 03:00:20 AM
Quote from: DarkStaR on July 25, 2010, 05:48:48 PM
http://www.probolt-usa.com/Products/stainless_steel_Other_Parts-kits (http://www.probolt-usa.com/Products/stainless_steel_Other_Parts-kits)
(http://www.probolt-usa.com/image.php?width=130&height=130&filename=ssmudhug.jpg&category=0005000c0009)

Just wanted you to know that you have played into my weakness, and it's almost a guarantee that Pro Bolt will be in possession of hundreds of my dollars by years end.
Title: Re: M6 Truss-head socket screws -- really that hard to find?
Post by: ducatiz on August 02, 2010, 03:15:48 AM
Quote from: Ducnial on July 26, 2010, 03:12:01 PM
Try McMaster Carr

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/3118/=84uv9m (http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/3118/=84uv9m)

They make-em in metric too

I found McMaster's flange screws.. Not the same as a truss head, but might work BUT:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#socket-cap-screws/=887cru (http://www.mcmaster.com/#socket-cap-screws/=887cru)

but they only come in a non-weather-resistant finish.. :-/  "not for outdoor use"

wtf?