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Title: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: fastwin on August 06, 2010, 11:30:21 AM
This pretty much covers it:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100806d.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100806d.htm)

Arrivederci!


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: muskrat on August 06, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
I'm glad they didn't do to them what they did to Buell.   [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: fastwin on August 06, 2010, 11:38:54 AM
If I had heard even a rumor of that happening I would have bought the damn company! That whole Buell in the trash bin thing still pisses me off! >:( Wankers! [bang]


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: duccarlos on August 06, 2010, 01:22:04 PM
 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 06, 2010, 05:01:15 PM
An Italian motorcycle Company should be owned and operated by Italians.

They seem to have the natural styling ability.

They are obviously performance oriented and passionate about the business.

Dolph      :)


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on August 06, 2010, 05:48:58 PM
The only one I've had experience with has been the most unreliable, temperamental piece of junk I have ever seen. My $100 Honda I bought broken out of a defunct repair shop has been more reliable in every way. They make Ducati look like a Honda by comparison.

It may be a lemon, but the sheer volume and variety of problems ensure I will never own one.


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: Raux on August 06, 2010, 06:49:55 PM
let's see every european vehicle i've had.. been great easy to work on, reliable (when the were supposed to be) and stylish

my freaking Acura.. 2 transmission rebuilds in less than 130k miles.

so I'm glad MV is european again.


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: BellissiMoto on August 06, 2010, 06:56:08 PM
This sounds amazingly like that episode of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns sold the Nuclear plant for $100 million to ze Germans, just to buy it back a month later for half price when the Germans realized they go hosed on the initial sale.


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: psycledelic on August 06, 2010, 07:38:18 PM
Sweet.  Still can't afford one!


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: Raux on August 06, 2010, 10:43:50 PM
well maybe the new ownership will get into the streetfighter business and compete with Ducati at that price level


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: R0CKETMAN on August 07, 2010, 02:23:16 AM
Good to hear


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: Travman on August 07, 2010, 05:50:21 AM
well maybe the new ownership will get into the streetfighter business and compete with Ducati at that price level
Don't forget about the Brutale.


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: kopfjäger on August 07, 2010, 07:16:42 AM
Don't forget about the Brutale.

 [evil]

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/122_0310_MV_Agusta_BrutaleS_08zMV_Agusta_Brutale_SFull_Right_Side_Wheelie_View.jpg)


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: desmoworks on August 07, 2010, 08:15:45 AM
An Italian motorcycle Company should be owned and operated by Italians.

They seem to have the natural styling ability.

They are obviously performance oriented and passionate about the business.

Dolph      :)

Italians in the design department for sure, but I'm not so sure about some of the other positions - such as management... or logistics!


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: kopfjäger on August 07, 2010, 08:20:58 AM
Italians in the design department for sure, but I'm not so sure about some of the other positions - such as management... or logistics!

Good point, no...Great point.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: jim_0068 on August 07, 2010, 11:05:52 AM
This sounds amazingly like that episode of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns sold the Nuclear plant for $100 million to ze Germans, just to buy it back a month later for half price when the Germans realized they go hosed on the initial sale.

That is freaking eerie because that's exactly what i thought! haha


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: desmoworks on August 07, 2010, 11:08:36 AM
That is freaking eerie because that's exactly what i thought! haha

This isn't the first deal he's done this with. The guy is slick and I would assume planned for it to work this way. Now MV has a substantial amount of new equipment and the debt has been taken care of by Harley. From the outside looking in they seem to be in a good position.


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: ducatiz on August 07, 2010, 11:41:50 AM
The entire Castiglioni family is great at drumming up publicity and snorting coke and getting laid.  They are not great businessmen.

I'd like to see them as PR frontmen for my bike business, not running it into the ground.  Cagiva (CAstiGIlioni VArese) never once turned a profit despite making some great bikes.  They bought Ducati out of bankruptcy by leveraging every penny they owned and lying their faces off.  Massimo Bordi is nothing to toot about, he was dumped when TPG bought Ducati from them and it was a great choice.

No doubt.. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR they made some beautiful bikes, but they can't stay in the black to save their lives.  My favorite bikes of all time are both Cagiva era Ducatis, but even during that amazing time, they couldn't turn a profit.

sssssssssssssssssssnnnnnnnnnooooooooort goes the coke!


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: DRKWNG on August 07, 2010, 03:22:03 PM
Sweet.  Still can't afford one!

Have you priced an F4 lately?  You might be surprised...


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on August 07, 2010, 07:19:53 PM
I'd be happy to sell anyone the MV I was pregnant doging about.



No warranty is available at this time  ;D


Brutale 910R!


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: ducatiz on August 08, 2010, 05:13:32 AM
I'd be happy to sell anyone the MV I was pregnant doging about.



No warranty is available at this time  ;D


Brutale 910R!

That is pretty much the history of Castiglioni-owned bike marques.  Right after Ducati was sold to TPG, Cagiva began dumping the Alazzura and Elefant parts.  Within a year or two, you couldn't find anything except for the Gran Canyon and the later E900.


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: rosstermyer on August 08, 2010, 06:07:15 AM
let's see every european vehicle i've had.. been great easy to work on, reliable (when the were supposed to be) and stylish

my freaking Acura.. 2 transmission rebuilds in less than 130k miles.

so I'm glad MV is european again.

im guessing you have an acura from 99-03 with a J series motor and an auto tranny? i remember those woes...here was mine. :(

(http://distortedolskool.smugmug.com/Cars/Ross/IMG0788/336956660_3bXho-L.jpg)


Title: Re: MV Agusta back in Italian hands
Post by: Raux on August 08, 2010, 06:46:32 AM


2001 MDX w/Auto


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