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Kitchen Sink => No Moto Content => Topic started by: roy-nexus-6 on June 06, 2008, 08:20:59 AM

Title: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on June 06, 2008, 08:20:59 AM
Not trying to get things stirred up or anything... but I've been back to the old board a few times to check for stragglers who don't know where everyone has gone.

Anyway, 18 days ago, I took a screen capture - then did the same again today. In that time, there have been 1591 new posts, or 88 per day. This data is skewed: for 10 days, quite a few people were writing farewell posts etc... so the real count is probably 50 or less posts per day.

In that same time period, this board accrued something like 30 000 new posts.

I've seen some odd things on the internet.. but NEVER anything like this. Rule 1 of community based forums - keep the community happy [shakes head].

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm47/roy-nexus-6/DML_18days.jpg)
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: c_rex on June 06, 2008, 08:59:12 AM
Is that really a banner ad for remote controlled cars?   :o

Maybe the new members/posts are the new 696 owners looking for the famed community.  The DML has a huge internet footprint relative to other Ducati Monster site searches so it's understandable that they choose the blue pill instead of the red pill when doing the clicky-click thing.  Good work on the subversive infiltration! 
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on June 06, 2008, 09:06:25 AM
Quote from: c_rex on June 06, 2008, 08:59:12 AM
Is that really a banner ad for remote controlled cars?   :o
The DML has a huge internet footprint relative to other Ducati Monster site searches so it's understandable that they choose the blue pill instead of the red pill when doing the clicky-click thing.  Good work on the subversive infiltration! 

lol - I hadn't even noticed the banner add. Yes, remote controlled cars.

re the DML footprint, I've been thinking about that. If we all ended each post with the words 'Ducati Monster' or one of a list of five common mods, the impact on google would be massive. 100s of interconnected pages dealing with monster related items. Hell, we could even put them in out signature lines.  :P
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: Shortie on June 06, 2008, 09:09:35 AM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on June 06, 2008, 09:06:25 AM
re the DML footprint, I've been thinking about that. If we all ended each post with the words 'Ducati Monster' or one of a list of five common mods, the impact on google would be massive. 100s of interconnected pages dealing with monster related items. Hell, we could even put them in out signature lines.  :P

That would be a riot  [cheeky]
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: hbliam on June 06, 2008, 09:37:39 AM
Quote from: c_rex on June 06, 2008, 08:59:12 AM
Is that really a banner ad for remote controlled cars?   :o



Not to far off I would say: http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=3837.0

Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: OwnyTony on June 06, 2008, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: hbliam on June 06, 2008, 09:37:39 AM


Not to far off I would say: http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=3837.0



What are you implying?  That thread is in the no moto content and is a post about rc info, on the dml, its a banner on the top of the page of a ducati monster forum (not said in an angry tone).  there is a diffrence
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: Count Desmo on June 06, 2008, 10:07:24 AM
Ducati Monster Worldwide
Ducati Monster Worldwide
Ducati Monster Worldwide
Ducati Monster Worldwide

Ducati Monster Forum
Ducati Monster Forum
Ducati Monster Forum
Ducati Monster Forum

Just tryin' to do my part. :)
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: Shortie on June 06, 2008, 10:48:36 AM
Isn't this just the coolest Ducati Monster Forum ever? I'm so glad I was invited over to the new Ducati Monster Forum. I've made so many new friends through the Ducati Monster Forum!

How many times do you think I can use Ducati Monster Forum in the same post?

[cheeky]
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: hbliam on June 06, 2008, 12:23:19 PM
Quote from: OwnyTony on June 06, 2008, 10:03:46 AM
What are you implying?  That thread is in the no moto content and is a post about rc info, on the dml, its a banner on the top of the page of a ducati monster forum (not said in an angry tone).  there is a diffrence

I'm implying saying that there is actually interest in RC cars on the forum, thus justifing the advertisers choice in demographics. That's it. Not a big deal.
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: mstevens on June 06, 2008, 06:54:56 PM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on June 06, 2008, 09:06:25 AMHell, we could even put them in out signature lines.  :P

Now, there's an idea!

It will even apply retroactively to all of one's posts, which could make for a really huge count. If one didn't actually want to look at all of them, I suppose they could be colored the same as background.

Edit: I can't quite figure out how to make it all invisible, but black is pretty unobtrusive.
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: factorPlayer on June 07, 2008, 01:15:11 AM
clever on the surface, but ultimately reeks of spam.  I know I wouldn't want to see it plastered everywhere. 

c'mon, we're above that.
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: BWClark on June 07, 2008, 06:32:04 AM
Quote from: factorPlayer on June 07, 2008, 01:15:11 AM
... I know I wouldn't want to see it plastered everywhere.  ...

You wouldn't want to see what plastered everywhere?


...wait for it...    [cheeky]
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: Scottish on June 07, 2008, 08:25:46 AM
This actually works, on another forum I hang on we recently got bored and decided to see if we could get it the site to hit when you search "elephant hysterectomies" needless to say a motorcycle forum is now the top several sites that pop up when you google it.
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: DY on June 07, 2008, 09:00:10 AM
Hmm... wanna see if we can overtake sportbikez.net?

elephant hysterectomies....
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: Scottish on June 07, 2008, 10:41:16 AM
LOL... I had a link to the thread on my sig too, it takes a couple weeks for google to recognize it.



































elephant hysterectomies...... [laugh]
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: mstevens on June 07, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: factorPlayer on June 07, 2008, 01:15:11 AMclever on the surface, but ultimately reeks of spam.

Not sure I agree. I think of spam as unsolicited email, off-topic postings to a newsgroup or message board advertising something, or perhaps excessive advertising cruft on a webpage (cf. the current DML). People put all sorts of stuff in their sig lines, from personal philosophy to links to other websites to pictures of their bikes or kids. Those things aren't usually spam.

QuoteI know I wouldn't want to see it plastered everywhere.

Is my sig line really all that intrusive or annoying?

Quotec'mon, we're above that.

I don't think I'm with you here, either. People do all sorts of things in the name of search engine optimizing, things far more egregious than what's being discussed here.

One point here is that even putting "Ducati" in front of "Monster" in your bike's description, despite the fact that the manufacturer is a given and could surely be taken on faith, can make this forum easier to find for someone searching for it and lots more likely that someone NOT specifically looking for the DMF will stumble across it and thereby enrich their lives (I'm not kidding - see below).

It took me a day or so to find the DMF from the DML, and that's because I was looking diligently to find where everyone had gone. I have nothing against the DML and still check it out every few days or so. I found it purely by accident because of a casual Google search. That led not only to my finding a like-minded group of people to argue with, but to the decision to get my first motorcycle. I even found my bike for sale there. It is safe to say that the old forum added a great deal to my life. However, it's not the resource it once was.

I have absolutely nothing against anyone's using the DML. I just think it would be a disservice to them if they couldn't find the DMF just as easily.
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: ducpainter on June 07, 2008, 03:36:17 PM
 elephant surgery..... please.  [roll]
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: cyrus buelton on June 07, 2008, 03:48:55 PM
I am hatin' on Nate
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: ducpainter on June 07, 2008, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on June 07, 2008, 03:48:55 PM
I am hatin' on Nate
That's nice....
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: ducpainter on June 07, 2008, 04:03:19 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on June 07, 2008, 03:48:55 PM
I am hatin' on Nate
...or...what'd I do this time?   ;D
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: cyrus buelton on June 07, 2008, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on June 07, 2008, 03:57:16 PM
That's nice....


;D
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: herm on June 07, 2008, 08:04:13 PM
so all i have to do is end my sentence with something like ducati monster forum?
or should end it with ducatimonsterworldwide?

just curious, because i have already answered a bunch of questions about tail chops.
and exhaust mods.
and clip ons
and rear sets.........

8)
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on June 08, 2008, 12:01:28 AM
Quote from: mstevens on June 07, 2008, 02:24:29 PM

One point here is that even putting "Ducati" in front of "Monster" in your bike's description, despite the fact that the manufacturer is a given and could surely be taken on faith, can make this forum easier to find for someone searching for it and lots more likely that someone NOT specifically looking for the DMF will stumble across it and thereby enrich their lives (I'm not kidding - see below).

I have absolutely nothing against anyone's using the DML. I just think it would be a disservice to them if they couldn't find the DMF just as easily.

+1.

I've simply put the worlds 'ducati monster forum' under my avatar pic. The other thing I did was make www.ducatimonsterworldwide.org the web page listed in my profile info. The 'title' of the web page can be anything - for example I made the title 'Ducati Monster Forum where I learned how to do a tail chop'. It's quite invisible, unless you do a mouseover.

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm47/roy-nexus-6/googlehack.jpg)
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: Scottish on June 08, 2008, 09:17:23 AM
Yeah I think it's a cool idea to put it into your profile info somewhere, if everyone were to do so, we'd have over 63,000 hits on it already. Every post by every member..... let's be careful not to become to big though, we don't want VS looking at us again.... [roll]










elephant hysterectomies....
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: mstevens on June 14, 2008, 10:40:54 PM
I notice that as of the time this is posted, DMF is the 3rd result on Google, below DML and the DML General Monster Forum. Of course, that's with the old ducatimonsterworldwide.org URL, not the ducatimonsterforum.org one. Nice to see how quickly it's moved up.

Why are those elephants getting plain ol' hysterectomies and not hystersalpingooophorectomies?
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: NAKID on June 16, 2008, 02:26:01 AM
So, typing "Ducati Monster" into Google doesn't result in a hit for this website on any of the first 10 pages. Now "Ducati Monster Forum" is different, but really, how many people would actually type that in?
Title: Re: This is NOT a hater thread.. but...
Post by: bigiain on June 16, 2008, 02:51:54 AM
Quote from: NAKID on June 16, 2008, 02:26:01 AM
So, typing "Ducati Monster" into Google doesn't result in a hit for this website on any of the first 10 pages.

Not at all surprising, seeings as how we've really only existed for 6 weeks. A lot of us put a fair bit of time and effort over the years into pushing TOB up the search engine results, now we're doing it here instead, but it's going to take a lot more than six weeks to happen.
(http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?action=stats)

QuoteNow "Ducati Monster Forum" is different, but really, how many people would actually type that in?

It's what I'd try second if I was looking for a lively forum and the search for Ducati Monster only revealed TOB with its ~100posts per day these days...

I just had a look at the stats, here's the current list of top search engine queries:
1.   ducati monster forum   1,070
2.   ducati monster worldwide   930
3.   ducatimonsterworldwide   689
4.   ducatimonsterworldwide.org   303
5.   ducati monster forums   236
6.   ducati monster world wide   63
7.   ducati monster forum worldwide.org   50
8.   bike of the moment baby   41
9.   ducati monster forum worldwide   31
10.   monster forum worldwide   24
11.   www.ducatimonsterworldwide.org   22
12.   ducati monster for sale   19
13.   ducati monsters worldwide   14
14.   dmf ducati   12
15.   ducatimonster forum   12
16.   ducati monster forum dmf   12
17.   monster worldwide forum   10
18.   ducati monster worldwide.org   9
19.   monster forum   8
20.   ducati monster forum world wide   8
21.   ducatimonster worldwide   8
22.   ducati monster board   8
23.   www.ducatimonstweworldwide.org   6
24.   ducatimonsterworldwide.com   6
25.   www.ducatimonsterworlwide.org   6
26.   ducatimonsterworlwide.org   6
27.   ducati monster org   6
28.   site:ducatimonsterworldwide.org ducati monster worldwide   6
29.   ducati monster worldwide forum   5
30.   ducati monster worldwide site   5

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