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Title: Speeding ticket blues
Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 09, 2010, 03:11:22 PM
damnit. so i got a speeding ticket in my car this past weekend, 47 in a 30 construction zone! apparently its a $340 ticket and I hav to go to court for it, state law (colorado)

can anyone tell me what to expect for the bike insurance? im kind of panicking.

we have two cars, bike and renters insurance on there, so we get a discount, and im really hoping they don't ever see the ticket, but, its four points, hoping to get that docked down in court, and i was hoping to buy a jeep wrangler this fall to replace my saturn... but, if i get a different car, isn't he (insurance guy) going to look at my record again?

ive considered going to a new insurance agent to insure the jeep, and hope the old insurance guy never notices...



F!

oh, details, i am 27 years old, ride a 2009 696 with termis and dp ecu

if this gets more expensive than my bike payment, im gonna sell it... and lose money
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: duccarlos on August 09, 2010, 03:16:52 PM
Any insurance will check your record. Go to court and see if you can avoid the points. Pay whatever you need to pay.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: jeff137 on August 09, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
What's your driving record like?  If it's perfectly clean you should go to the DA's office for the county in which you received the ticket.  Explain that you admit you were speeding, but you have a PERFECT record and you would like to have the ticket reduced as much as they can.  Tell them you will pay the ticket without it going to court and you will pay it immediately.  If you're lucky and they're in a good mood they will reduce it to just speeding 9 mph over the limit and drop the construction zone part of the ticket.  If not, you're gonna be paying not only the ticket, but perhaps an increase in insurance.  If you get nailed, I would avoid changes to your insurance as they will definitely notice the ticket and raise your rates right away.  Good luck with it.   [moto]
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 09, 2010, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: jeff137 on August 09, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
What's your driving record like?  If it's perfectly clean you should go to the DA's office for the county in which you received the ticket.  Explain that you admit you were speeding, but you have a PERFECT record and you would like to have the ticket reduced as much as they can.  Tell them you will pay the ticket without it going to court and you will pay it immediately.  If you're lucky and they're in a good mood they will reduce it to just speeding 9 mph over the limit and drop the construction zone part of the ticket.  If not, you're gonna be paying not only the ticket, but perhaps an increase in insurance.  If you get nailed, I would avoid changes to your insurance as they will definitely notice the ticket and raise your rates right away.  Good luck with it.   [moto]
Correction.....17 miles over the limit.....47 in a 30.

It is my understanding ( at least in Ohio ) that your rates don't go up until renewal time.

Dolph
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: El Matador on August 09, 2010, 07:03:56 PM
In Texas you can take a 40 dollar driver's ed course that takes the ticket away from your record. No points, no raise in rates. I dunno how it is in your state, but it might be worth looking into.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 09, 2010, 07:55:06 PM
Quote from: El Matador on August 09, 2010, 07:03:56 PM
In Texas you can take a 40 dollar driver's ed course that takes the ticket away from your record. No points, no raise in rates. I dunno how it is in your state, but it might be worth looking into.
That's almost like a " get out of jail free card ."  DAMN !

Dolph      :)
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Raux on August 09, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
i did the same class in Arizona (84 in a 55) and YEARS later in Texas (75 in a 55)

Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Porsche Monkey on August 09, 2010, 08:54:56 PM
You can only take it once a year or sumthin.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 09, 2010, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: Porsche Monkey on August 09, 2010, 08:54:56 PM
You can only take it once a year or sumthin.
Still, once a year to get a speeding ticket /points to not show on your driving record....... meaning if you just had one ticket your Insurance wouldn't be affected........?  Pretty sweet.

Dolph        :)
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 10, 2010, 04:00:15 AM
Quote from: jeff137 on August 09, 2010, 03:17:29 PM
What's your driving record like?  If it's perfectly clean you should go to the DA's office for the county in which you received the ticket.  Explain that you admit you were speeding, but you have a PERFECT record and you would like to have the ticket reduced as much as they can.  Tell them you will pay the ticket without it going to court and you will pay it immediately.  If you're lucky and they're in a good mood they will reduce it to just speeding 9 mph over the limit and drop the construction zone part of the ticket.  If not, you're gonna be paying not only the ticket, but perhaps an increase in insurance.  If you get nailed, I would avoid changes to your insurance as they will definitely notice the ticket and raise your rates right away.  Good luck with it.   [moto]
yeah thats what im thinking of doing, i have a clean record (in colorado anyways, just moved here)
Quote from: El Matador on August 09, 2010, 07:03:56 PM
In Texas you can take a 40 dollar driver's ed course that takes the ticket away from your record. No points, no raise in rates. I dunno how it is in your state, but it might be worth looking into.

someone mentioned that, ill look into it, definitely worth it.

thanks guys
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 10, 2010, 04:18:02 AM
here we go, hmmmm

http://www.colorado-trafficschool.com/point-reduction.html (http://www.colorado-trafficschool.com/point-reduction.html)
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: MendoDave on August 10, 2010, 04:36:32 AM
Yes but go to court first. Then ask the judge if you can enroll in "driving school" as they call it here in California. He will probably say OK. You still have to pay the fine but the points go away. And the online thing is awesome. I've done two traffic schools the first time online, the second I had to actually spend my entire Saturday in class. My recommendation is to do the online course from home in your pajamas with cereal and toast.  ;)
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: duccarlos on August 10, 2010, 06:39:37 AM
Same in Florida. Pay fine, do online traffic school = no points.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Stella on August 10, 2010, 07:21:24 AM
PM sent (since, in this case, I don't need to share my experience with everyone here).   ;)
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: NorDog on August 10, 2010, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: Raux on August 09, 2010, 08:10:52 PM
i did the same class in Arizona (84 in a 55) and YEARS later in Texas (75 in a 55)


I did the course in California back in 2004.  I was doing 112 in a 70 mph zone.  The highway patrol wrote me for 90 in a 70; I didn't complain.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: muskrat on August 10, 2010, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: DucatiTorrey on August 10, 2010, 04:18:02 AM
here we go, hmmmm

http://www.colorado-trafficschool.com/point-reduction.html (http://www.colorado-trafficschool.com/point-reduction.html)

if you can do the course in person it's better.  The online courses time you and you literally sit in front of the computer watching the clock for hours and hours and hours.   [bang]
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 10, 2010, 03:03:42 PM
Quote from: D Paoli on August 10, 2010, 04:36:32 AM
Yes but go to court first. Then ask the judge if you can enroll in "driving school" as they call it here in California. He will probably say OK. You still have to pay the fine but the points go away. And the online thing is awesome. I've done two traffic schools the first time online, the second I had to actually spend my entire Saturday in class. My recommendation is to do the online course from home in your pajamas with cereal and toast.  ;)

may i ask why go to court first? if i can go in and smooz now pay early and get on theur good side, shouldn't i?

i would love to pay the fine and see no points, but since it was a construction zone, its doubled points, 4 on the license. i hope they aren't like, well now its 2. I want 0.

thanks for the help everyone keep it coming
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Raux on August 11, 2010, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: DucatiTorrey on August 10, 2010, 03:03:42 PM
may i ask why go to court first? if i can go in and smooz now pay early and get on theur good side, shouldn't i?

i would love to pay the fine and see no points, but since it was a construction zone, its doubled points, 4 on the license. i hope they aren't like, well now its 2. I want 0.

thanks for the help everyone keep it coming

i never had to go to court. the ticket had some options on what to do written on it. one was a check box saying i pay a fine, take a class, so i mailed it in
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: cyrus buelton on August 11, 2010, 08:45:29 PM
DO NOT SWITCH INSURANCE COMPANIES.

If you have been with the same one throughout the life of your car/bike/etc, the odds are they will not spend the money to run a background report on you for tickets.

I got nailed doing 98 in a 65 which landed me in court.

My insurance was never raised in the past two years and I got socked with 4 points.


Get yourself an attorney. Never go to court without one. It is a boys club, just like IL politics: you pay to play.

Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: El Matador on August 11, 2010, 08:47:14 PM


If you actually go to court and talk to the judge you're liable to get more leeway. Most judges I've encountered are pretty lenient when it comes to first offenders who have all their paperwork in order
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: cyrus buelton on August 11, 2010, 08:51:03 PM
Quote from: El Matador on August 11, 2010, 08:47:14 PM

If you actually go to court and talk to the judge you're liable to get more leeway. Most judges I've encountered are pretty lenient when it comes to first offenders who have all their paperwork in order

how do you have paperwork on a speeding ticket? You sped, got caught, got a court date, and you are in the game.


Hire an attorney to cut a deal with the prosecutor's office. That is how it works.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: El Matador on August 11, 2010, 08:54:15 PM
Registration, inspection, and insurance is what I meant by paperwork.

Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Raux on August 11, 2010, 08:58:15 PM
wow, maybe it's me, but you guys are making this harder than it should be, IMO

i'm betting his ticket has a mail in option with a no fault box and i will go to class, or at least a phone number to someone to ask.

hiring a lawyer, going to court, shees... no thanks. i hate court.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Tiffers on August 11, 2010, 09:04:14 PM
Quote from: Raux on August 11, 2010, 08:58:15 PM
wow, maybe it's me, but you guys are making this harder than it should be, IMO

i'm betting his ticket has a mail in option with a no fault box and i will go to class, or at least a phone number to someone to ask.

hiring a lawyer, going to court, shees... no thanks. i hate court.

Depends on the county and state.

Jud went to court because the county his dumbass go clocked doing 98 in a 65 requires you to face a judge if you are doing 30+ over the speed limit. He found a good attorney, I went with him to support him, and he got a good deal out of the situation and a life lesson from me.......slow down. It isn't worth a serious accident and injuries over trying to get home faster.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Kopfjager on August 11, 2010, 09:05:20 PM
30+ years ago I spent a good amount of time in traffic court. I always appeared (shows the judge you care), never had an attorney, always received a reduction or dismissal of points and a reduced fine. I got out of some dumbass (on my part) shit.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Raux on August 11, 2010, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: Tiffers on August 11, 2010, 09:04:14 PM
Depends on the county and state.

Jud went to court because the county his dumbass  go clocked doing 98 in a 65 requires you to face a judge if you are doing 30+ over the speed limit. He found a good attorney, I went with him to support him, and he got a good deal out of the situation and a life lesson from me.......slow down. It isn't worth a serious accident and injuries over trying to get home faster.

damn, hope my wife doesn't read the forum as much ;)

Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Tiffers on August 11, 2010, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: Raux on August 11, 2010, 09:10:11 PM
damn, hope my wife doesn't read the forum as much ;)

what can I say.........he did it to himself.
Title: Re: xpeeding ticket blues
Post by: Howie on August 12, 2010, 02:13:09 AM
Quote from: Tiffers on August 11, 2010, 09:04:14 PM
Depends on the county and state.

Jud went to court because the county his dumbass go clocked doing 98 in a 65 requires you to face a judge if you are doing 30+ over the speed limit. He found a good attorney, I went with him to support him, and he got a good deal out of the situation and a life lesson from me.......slow down. It isn't worth a serious accident and injuries over trying to get home faster.

And even city.  In NYC there is no plea bargaining.  You can take often a class after the fact to reduce your points and insurance premium.  In some parts of the state a minor speeder can become an expensive parking ticket.  It is best to at least discuss your options with a local attorney, you can find one here:  http://attorney.motorists.org/ (http://attorney.motorists.org/) 

Title: Re: speeding ticket blues
Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 12, 2010, 03:53:33 AM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on August 11, 2010, 08:45:29 PM
DO NOT SWITCH INSURANCE COMPANIES.

If you have been with the same one throughout the life of your car/bike/etc, the odds are they will not spend the money to run a background report on you for tickets.

I got nailed doing 98 in a 65 which landed me in court.

My insurance was never raised in the past two years and I got socked with 4 points.


Get yourself an attorney. Never go to court without one. It is a boys club, just like IL politics: you pay to play.



i don't think its that kind of court, i heard in denver there are so many people, its just "yes, no" yes sir, ..."

Quote from: Raux on August 11, 2010, 08:58:15 PM
wow, maybe it's me, but you guys are making this harder than it should be, IMO

i'm betting his ticket has a mail in option with a no fault box and i will go to class, or at least a phone number to someone to ask.

hiring a lawyer, going to court, shees... no thanks. i hate court.

there is no check box for a class, though I was thinking of going in to talk with the DA and ask then about options.

on the back of the ticket though, it say to plead guilty, just pay it by mail, otherwise court it is. i want to plead guilty, i know i was speeding, but i was to get those points off, ill pay the fine, no biggie

Quote from: cyrus buelton on August 11, 2010, 08:45:29 PM
DO NOT SWITCH INSURANCE COMPANIES.

If you have been with the same one throughout the life of your car/bike/etc, the odds are they will not spend the money to run a background report on you for tickets.

I got nailed doing 98 in a 65 which landed me in court.

My insurance was never raised in the past two years and I got socked with 4 points.


Get yourself an attorney. Never go to court without one. It is a boys club, just like IL politics: you pay to play.



yeah, not changing unless i have to. If i get another car (might replace mine this fall) ill just go to a new one, keep bike car and renters on old one. though i will lose multi car discount.
Title: Re: Speeding ticket blues
Post by: Stella on August 12, 2010, 05:54:46 AM
Do you know if you have to go to Denver or can you stay in the Springs?
Title: Re: Speeding ticket blues
Post by: duccarlos on August 12, 2010, 06:12:45 AM
I think what everyone is saying is to figure out exactly what are your options for the state/county. If it's not on the ticket, then I would suggest a lawyer. Again, not sure in Denver, but over here we have some pretty sleazy lawyers that specialize in traffic citations. When I received my first ticket I literally received 30 different flyers by mail. I paid $35 and faxed the guy my license and the ticket. Like Cyrus mentioned, it's a boy's club, so the guy represented me in court and I presume the police officer did not show up because they dropped the case. In a different county, I checked the box, paid my fine and took the online course.
Title: Re: Speeding ticket blues
Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 12, 2010, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: Stella on August 12, 2010, 05:54:46 AM
Do you know if you have to go to Denver or can you stay in the Springs?

its in the springs, why do you ask
Title: Re: Speeding ticket blues
Post by: Stella on August 12, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Guessing it's not going to be the madhouse that Denver was based on population.  That's all.  But it's anyone's guess unless you can find another source who has been through it at that location.  Goooood luck!!!     [thumbsup]