. . . makes riders in general look bad. Funny thing is I immediately assume the type of bike they're riding, certain kind of stereotyping I guess.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/08/12/pkg.bikers.taunt.wrecked.cop.komo?hpt=T2 (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/08/12/pkg.bikers.taunt.wrecked.cop.komo?hpt=T2)
This is big news here in Seattle...unfortunately. :-\
you know. it's tough what to say to this
one thread on here is about a drunk officer killing a rider in the middle of the day
this thread is about riders possibly leaving an injured officer to die
people suck.
i've lived overseas most of my life, so when i read things like those items.. glad i live in europe.
Quote from: Raux on August 12, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
i've lived overseas most of my life, so when i read things like those items.. glad i live in europe.
Do people in Europe suck less...
or just in a different language?
honestly, yeah a bit less prevalent of an issue
people tend to keep to themselves, but have a sense of community and responsibility to others as well
It's part of the reason I live in the woods...not really, but everyone thinks NH is the woods.
The problem is when people move here and bring their city baggage and want to make our little slice of life what they left.
I think I need to move.
Quote from: ducpainter on August 12, 2010, 02:53:40 PM
It's part of the reason I live in the woods...not really, but everyone thinks NH is the woods.
The problem is when people move here and bring their city baggage and want to make our little slice of life what they left.
I think I need to move.
Man, I know what you mean. I've lived 54 of my 54 years in the same small town (1,100 people) 25 miles (used to be about 35 miles) from Houston. The people moving out here are calling themselves country folk but they bring their big city attitudes and bad behavior with them. Then, to top it off, they think those of us that have lived out in the country all our lives need them to show us how we should be living. They say they want the country life but they move to the country and immediatly begin doing things to try to make it grow into a city. [bang]
I like how there is no mention of the 8 motorcyclists that stopped to check on the cop, the fact that a cop managed to drive so far beyond his/the cars limits that he managed to flip a cruiser (causing a far larger hazard to the public than 2 overzealous riders).
also, how realistic is it that these guys were speeding away from a cop car, saw it flip then did a U-turn and went against traffic just to go back to "taunt" the cop? how would one in a "high speed chase" be able to take the focus off all the traffic and doom they are hurling themselves at for long enough to watch the cop car roll in the rear view mirror?
not saying those guys are innocent little angels, anyone who would endanger their life to avoid a speeding ticket deservers a good kicking, the story just seems like an avalanche of bullshit
people wont watch it unless there's a villain and here we have bikers playing that role.
Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on August 12, 2010, 06:08:18 PM
I like how there is no mention of the 8 motorcyclists that stopped to check on the cop, the fact that a cop managed to drive so far beyond his/the cars limits that he managed to flip a cruiser (causing a far larger hazard to the public than 2 overzealous riders).
also, how realistic is it that these guys were speeding away from a cop car, saw it flip then did a U-turn and went against traffic just to go back to "taunt" the cop? how would one in a "high speed chase" be able to take the focus off all the traffic and doom they are hurling themselves at for long enough to watch the cop car roll in the rear view mirror?
not saying those guys are innocent little angels, anyone who would endanger their life to avoid a speeding ticket deservers a good kicking, the story just seems like an avalanche of bullshit
some of your facts are in correct according to Seattle news. the two that taunted were not the speeders but ones that were behind and not speeding, but a part of the group that some think was as large as 40 riders. an
Quote from: Raux on August 12, 2010, 10:35:16 PM
some of your facts are incorrect according to Seattle news. the two that taunted were not the speeders but ones that were behind and not speeding, but a part of the group that some think was as large as 40 riders. an
ah, that makes more sense. the early reports I saw said that the officers report put the speeders themselves turning around to heckle the downed cop.
given the distorted view we get "as large as 40" smacks of "about 10" to me.
Terrible thing indeed.
It IS interesting how the trooper says on camera "there is no way we can catch them", but they pursue anyway (at least in this case). Let the squids kill themselves....that car could have taken out a family in a SUV.
Alot of States/ City's have a no chase rule. Honestly for vehicles that you know are faster than police cruisers you shouldn't chase. Like here in S. Florida cops don't chase bikes its pointless.
Mind you i don't think the cop should of chased them. But the bikers are still d-bags.
I know that most bikers are like these guys. The select few like us (most of us) ride respectfully but since most bikers are like the a-holes in the story everyone on two wheels gets a bad rep. But riders like that get theirs in the end riding like that has one end result. A dirt nap.
I hear that they can pit a bike here in OH. Now, how f'd up is that ?
(Like someone mentioned below, i don't think we have the whole true story here so I tend not to believe the bikers portrayal).
...and now it is heating up. This should be interesting...eyewitnesses contradicting the Trooper's story.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012610318_taunt13m.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012610318_taunt13m.html)
Too bad he didn't have a dash cam...would help catch the bikers, as well as confirm or contradict his version of events.
...on a side note, the WSP's "rolling slow-down" manuever mentioned in the article is dangerous. I've seen it in person (in my car) and it really is ridiculous when they use it for no real reason, other than they feel traffic should be moving slower.
Quote from: DoubleEagle on August 12, 2010, 09:42:25 PM
Yeah, just ask OJ !
Dolph ;D
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Quote from: Latinbalar on August 13, 2010, 03:23:07 AM
I know that most bikers are like these guys. The select few like us (most of us) ride respectfully but since most bikers are like the a-holes in the story everyone on two wheels gets a bad rep. But riders like that get theirs in the end riding like that has one end result. A dirt nap.
Please tell me you do not really believe this? Most riders are dirt bags and only a few of us ride respectably?
I ride A LOT. I run into bikers all over the country FROM all over the country.
Vast majority are great guys and gals and ride respectably. The dirt bags are definitely in the 1% category.
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Quote from: Bigbore4 on August 13, 2010, 07:49:35 AM
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Please tell me you do not really believe this? Most riders are dirt bags and only a few of us ride respectably?
I ride A LOT. I run into bikers all over the country FROM all over the country.
Vast majority are great guys and gals and ride respectably. The dirt bags are definitely in the 1% category.
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Quote from: Bigbore4 on August 13, 2010, 07:49:35 AM
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Please tell me you do not really believe this? Most riders are dirt bags and only a few of us ride respectably?
I ride A LOT. I run into bikers all over the country FROM all over the country.
Vast majority are great guys and gals and ride respectably. The dirt bags are definitely in the 1% category.
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Quote from: ab on August 13, 2010, 04:16:07 AM
I hear that they can pit a bike here in OH. Now, how f'd up is that ?
I live in Ohio and am interested in what "PIT" means.
Quote from: Tekneek on August 13, 2010, 08:50:51 AM
I live in Ohio and am interested in what "PIT" means.
You can Google the actual acronym, but it is the maneuver where the squad nudges into the fender or quarter or side of another motor vehicle to literally spin it out of control. Not sure if they still do it here in MN, but my brother got this treatment back in the early 80's. And he prolly deserved it, as much as it sucks.
The Kawi forums have some 'first hand" posters. The guys says that the LEO was trying to push the bikes and crashed on his own. The people taunting him were people that he tried to push while chasing the guys that were speeding.
http://www.kawiforums.com/two-wheeled-discussion/161982-hardcore-squids-taunting-downed-state-trooper.html (http://www.kawiforums.com/two-wheeled-discussion/161982-hardcore-squids-taunting-downed-state-trooper.html)
Quote from: ducpainter on August 12, 2010, 02:48:51 PM
Do people in Europe suck less...
or just in a different language?
Quote from: Raux on August 12, 2010, 02:50:42 PM
honestly, yeah a bit less prevalent of an issue
people tend to keep to themselves, but have a sense of community and responsibility to others as well
After living in Europe for almost eight years, I will agree one hundred percent with Jerry on this one. Most people over there, in western Europe anyhow, have a much more social mindset than you will find in your average American. It is not uncommon for people to actually pause and consider how their actions might effect the lives of others and then act accordingly...
God I miss it over there...