Ducati Monster Forum

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1305301/Easyrider-Gordon-Ramsay-takes-new-bike-test-spin.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1305301/Easyrider-Gordon-Ramsay-takes-new-bike-test-spin.html)

I could list the biker crimes here
 
like the lack of protection
the fact he's balancing a shopping bag on the end of his handlebar
the way he's mounting the bike from the curb
the fact the news story has quoted a 696 as a 1100

but what would be the point ?
i would link the pics to this post but the story annoyed me too much to bother
sorry guys you'll have to click the hyperlink.

Celebrities........... sigh

You did.


Great question.


Never heard of him.

Wonder if he lives in the Boo? I saw a guy on a 696 with shorts and a t and the same helmet heading South on Kanan Dume. But hey, it was hot.

me too...

He's a celebrity chef.

His show Hell's Kitchen is about the worst piece of crap ever. His show Kitchen Nightmares is very good though IMO...especially the British version. The US (FOX) version is still good, but he plays up his prick attitude more (probably at the request of FOX).

He seems like an alright guy...he's been on Top Gear a couple times, and was fast in the reasonably priced car. Also appeared with Jeremy on his other show once.

About the Duc and lack of gear...who cares.  :P

http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/371/gordon-ramsays-great-escape.jsp (http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/371/gordon-ramsays-great-escape.jsp)

That's a good show too, lots of people making fun of him. I do like Kitchen Nightmares but I like it less the more of a prick he's being.

I don't really care about the bike crimes, he's a celebrity, who cares?

+1

just an other idiot who thinks he can drive and never fall, I hope a big bug smashes at 60 mph against his arm.
Gear is a necessary item with a bike

I just want to post this to comment about all the things im not going to post about this.

+2

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080103210311/uncyclopedia/images/a/af/Oh_noes_fire.jpg)

Are you his mommy? For every time people post how you shouldn't be riding a bike without wearing a full leather suit, I will start asking:

a) where you live that the weather is so perfect that you can wear the suit 365 days of the year
b) do you ride to work and, if you do, do you have to wear a business suit
c) if your life is so boring that you really have to worry about how other people choose to ride their bikes

 [laugh]

That trick with the shopping bag while wearing shorts is absolutely f'n CRAZY.   :o 

Gordon Ramsey > Christian Pfieffer. 

Christian Pfeiffer Bike Stunt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBw0yH509lw#normal)

It's not your concern.

i usually try to wear full gear (read that as gloves, boots, helmet, and jeans), but don't always.  the only thing i insist on wearing everytime is a helmet.  i think anyone that has never ridden in shorts and a tshirt is either (1) lying, (2) doesn't ride much, or (3) a pansy. 

He is free to make his own choices about gear.

Just as I am free to point, laugh and declare him "squid"

LOL!  [laugh] [laugh]

Um.... Can I add #4?

4) not an idiot

 [laugh]

What, no jacket?  :P


You know those jeans are as protective as shorts.



Clean your room.

I know you're a daddy...

but calm down dood. ;D

I didn't really care one way or the other based on the photos.  He might of been riding 2 blocks away.  I wouldn't suit up either for that.   blah blah blah


mitt

Skin is leather without all the fancy chemicals. Its considered gear too u fools

I forgot all my smilies.  ;D

Agreed.  The BBCA shows are good.  

I'm a pansy  :'(

Never ridden in shorts and flip-flops aka Florida gear

Me, too. I have had enough road rash from racing bicycles over the years to cover my body a few times, so I would rather be hot than road rashed. I like the ability to use a towel after showering, thanks!!!

   Having a large amount of scar tissue from Asphalt and gravel, I have learned that gear does help and I choose to wear it, If You don't want to wear any, thats Your business, but be willing to pay the full price to do so, don't cry to the Insurance company and raise the stats.,Be the Badass and pay, When Your in a wheelchair, hire Your own caretaker, not Disability or SSI to wipe You. I paid every penny for doctors, repairs, legals and took full responsibility, now I shouldn't pay higher insurance rates and have stiffer laws because of the choices of others!!    Do what You want, but don't expect Society to pay for it....Rant over.

I am scared when I ride.

I wear a teflon chicken suit.

And a condom.

Just to be safe.

LOL!!!!!

  [laugh] [laugh] [clap]

lol

I did not know this was a some type of biker crime. I'll have to inform my wife that she does it wrong, but it is easier with a curb on teh rare occasion she gets on the bike from the left side. She usually gets on the bike from the rights side of the bike, which is more comfortable for her with a paralyzed left leg.   [bacon]


I don't preach to others, but to answer your questions:

1) Upstate (north-western) South Carolina. I wear full gear every time I ride other than on my commute.
2) Don't have to wear a business suit but am supposed to wear business casual as dress slacks and buttoned shirt. When commuting, I wear a full armored jacket, back protector, full-face helmet, race gauntlet gloves, and Honda motorcycling shoes. I have been tempted to wear my race boots and get some over pants, but I just can't bring myself to do it. Sitting in traffic on a 95+ degree day is bad enough, but they would help on those sub 50-degree mornings.
3) I really couldn't care less about how others dress to ride. It is them, not me, who will have to deal with the road rash, brain damage, paralysis, or death that could potentially result from a lower level of protection than I would opt to wear. I firmly believe that there is a strong probability I could be in a wheel chair if it were not for my Dainese back protector last year when I hit a guradrail. I hit a post hard enough to put a permanent crease in the plastic shell of the back protector through my leathers.



I did find it interesting that he has an HJC helmet. You'd figure he'd have an Arai or Shoei with all the money he makes.

My point is that it's a presonal choice. I wear gear and listing it will not make me any smarter than the next guy. If someone wants to ride in underwear at 100 mph on I95 during rush hour, then more power to you as long as you don't take anyone else with you when you die. Gear is only important to the person wearing it and the doctor trying to save his life.

I rode several blocks one time with a cup of Hot spiced tea from Starbucks in my left hand and only spilled some of it. The trick is getting the bike moving in the first place. That day I wore some of the gear some of the time.

But that trick was nothing, after seeing this video I have decided that I am a totally inept/incompetent rider and shouldn't even go near a motorcycle let alone look at one. I would start all over and be trained from the beginning by someone skillful in the the art of two wheeled mastery, but alas I am middle aged now and too old to learn. I'm going to have my wife go out and put the motorcycle cover on the bike and have the neighbor put the gear away in a box for me. I will never again ride a motorcycle.







_{At least not until those suspension parts come in the mail and the bike needs to be test ridden to make sure they work OK.}

(http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/turbo/rollie_bonneville.jpg)

Ironic all the posts about it being a matter of personal choice to wear gear or not - all from those who have preached about the importance of proper gear in the past. You know who you are. You also know if you come off that bike at 30 mph the pavement will peel your asses like an onion unless you are wearing the right protective clothing. Any time anybody posts anything where somebody is missing some gear somewhere be it gloves, boots, armored pants, etc. the very first thing posted in retort concerns the lack of proper gear. Now this Gordon Ramsay douche goes out in shorts with a shopping bag hanging on his handlebars and people are like 'it's none of your concern' and 'it's a matter of personal choice'. Like a complete 180. The guy who posted about it reflecting on everybody's insurance premiums is right. Seems the practical decision to make on a +90 degree humid day would be to take your Mercedes SUV or what have you to go shopping.
I just find it interesting.  [roll]   

I want you to find a post where I'm giving anyone a hard time for not wearing gear.

And lord knows that all those crashes by guys in ATGATT mode don't impact insurance rates.

Heck, I wonder how much the use of carbon fiber has increased insurance rates.  These days a minor tip over can cause thousands of dollars of damage.

That I'm not sure about. I'm looking at this strictly as a business, but wouldn't it be cheaper for the insurance company if the rider dies? I don't want to get too off topic, but considering this topic has gone in a completely different direction...

Life insurance premiums go up anyway if you ride a motorcycle. Motorcycle insurance is not mandatory in all states. Anyone here that can be considered an expert?

Do you know him personally... to make this call?

That is like shinning the Batman logo into the sky. One or more of them will be here shortly.  :D

If this thread was in NMC I know Cyrus would have already enlightened us by quoting a "friend of his that is the top most expert in any subject".

I think you missed the point.  Regardless of gear, I suspect (and my personal exprerience of 7 crashes over the years bears out) many moto crashes do not result in insurance claims for medical expenses, and of those that don't have medical claims, they almost all with have property damage claims.

Actually, that's not even the point that should have been made.

Rather, if one operates from the principle that people should tell others what to wear while riding due to the inherent dangers involved and the consequential insurance costs, then one is promoting the principle that others should tell us we should NOT get on the motorcycle at all.  It is the same principle

If that's the case ^^^ then I agree 100%


I've also seen another principle being posted -  "do as I say, not as I do"

Thanks for clearing that up. I've been a bit dense for a few weeks.

i think that we can all agree that Gordon Ramsay should only be allowed to ride a Duc if he looks cool standing next to it in a Starbucks parking lot.

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Which means he shouldn't be allowed.

Good catch.  Yes, "NOT" is the operative word in that sentence.

I agree. He's a bit pasty.

I would like to argue with you all, just not about this. Oh! My dog is a good driver, she can drive better than your dog, and she doesn't even need her collar to do it.

Collarless dog accidents increase insurance premiums-you should really consider outfitting your dog with the proper equipment.

I can't speak for anyone else -- I think everyone should wear as much gear as possible, all the time and for me, a minimum means helmet, gloves and riding boots -- extremities which all hit the ground first.  If you can wear the jacket and pants, then do it. 

That being said, it's a real balance to wear more.  You can't suit up and go to work where I do -- not that riding a Monster with a suit and tie is easy, plus you stink like gas when you get to work and your lapel is crumpled.

I don't know who are the gear nazis, but for me, it's helmet, gloves, boots and jacket.  I'll wing the rest with my jeans most of the time.  Sometimes I'll throw on the pants but probably not when the temps are above 75.

i am pleased you liked my snarkiness!

There are many hollier than thou people here when it comes to gear, but they are pretty consistent. In other words they will always preach the ATGATT. I would use my overpants when living in Georgia and riding in the winter. The rest of the time I'm using jeans. I use my boots most of the time unless I'm doing a quick ride to someplace where using boots is just plain uncomfortable. Gloves and helmet ATT. Jacket depends on how hot and how long the ride. Heat = mesh, under 80 degress = leather. Long rides jacket. I will never go up to anyone and tell them that they are dumb for not using gear. Life is too short for me to care.

I'm sorry, did you say something?  :D [drink]

funny farts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKM8dElomA4&feature=related#normal)

My dog doesn't want the collar, especially on hot days, or if shes just running to the butcher shop around the corner. Besides having no collar not only looks cool, but if she gets in an accident she can flee the scene more easily if there is no dog collar to grab onto.

Besides how is it any of your buisiness?















 ;)

how am i supposed to drink my milkshake with all that gear on???

(http://www.popularwealth.com/funny-pictures/sick-motorcycle-helmet.jpg)

with a straw, but if you vomit, above is what happens...

Exactly dude! See that's what I'm talkin about.



Never mind that those Mickey D's milkshakes will make you vomit.

Eating McDonald's food....the true biker way. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e12lEzK2qec#normal)

FAIL

he took his gloves off

Doh  :D

 [leo] [laugh]

   Hell, the Dogs got it figured out... [thumbsup]

If you are wearing less than one piece leathers with the latest very bestest armor and full back detector, full gauntlet gloves and race boots and your Snell helmet is less than five years old you are not dressed as safe as you can be.  There is a lot of territory between riders who wear T shirt, shorts and flip flops and riders  who wear the best gear money can buy.  I'm sure all of us are somewhere between.  Beyond what your local authorities require is personal choice. 

Agreed.





You are a pansy!   [cheeky]

I actually got complimented going through the base gate the other day for wearing real gear

I had on helmet, leather jacket with armor, back armor (not that they could see it), hard armor gloves, armored boots and  :-X jeans. I told them I felt naked cause i left off my icon knee armor. they said i was tons better armored than some of the guys coming through.

You can't quantify safety just by what gear someone is wearing.  Personally, I'd rather avoid an accident all together than be properly dressed and go down.  How big a part does situational awareness play?  If a completely oblivious person is riding in full gear and a switched on guy is riding in a helmet, jacket, shoes and no gloves, who is really safer? 
     On that same token, if the switched on guy is riding in hot weather in full leathers and is sweating so bad and so god awful uncomfortable that he can't pay attention to what he is doing, is he still safer than if he was in t-shirt and shorts and riding comfortably?

logically it would seem to make sense what you are saying... but.. you don't dress for the ride. you dress for the wreck.
that being said. no matter how in tune you are with your bike/ride, there are always things that can happen, ie other drivers, road hazards unseen, deer, etc.

and i don't think anyone qualifies safety=gear, i think it's gear=safer.

Well nothing is 100%, I absolutely believe that more gear is safer.  I'm just playing devils advocate and saying that there are some situations where it is perfectly reasonable to not be in full gear.
     At the end of the day, everybody rides for their own reasons and accepts the risk of riding.  However they choose to mitigate that risk is up to them.  Until it becomes and issue of riding recklessly and putting other people in danger, I don't see why anybody should care.
     Should we blame people for raising our insurance rates because they don't wear all the gear they possibly can?  I think that is a result of an imperfect system, not the fault of individuals.  I think helmet laws and seat belt laws are ridiculous, people should be free to behave how they please if it doesn't affect others.  Personally I will never get on a bike without a helmet, jacket, gloves, and boots.  I will never get in a car without putting on a seat belt, but I don't think anybody should be required to do any of those things.  Minors are a different matter, but that's a different discussion.

government oversight of personal safety has been a big issue for years.
seatbelts, airbags, abs, traction control, etc.
in the end, it's a government's responsibility to ensure the safety of its citizens sometimes in spite of themselves.
should a seatbelt be mandatory? no, but would it be mandatory if everyone was smart enough to wear one? no.
same goes for helmets, IMO.

it's not about age or choice, it's about intellect. it's smarter to wear safety gear.
unfortunately, due to people not using intellect, the government needs to mandate things to cover those people. Darwinism isn't an option for a government.

ok, take it out of the transportatio realm
do we really need labels on coffee saying it's "Hot: Handle with care"?

I think intellect plays some role in deciding what you're going to wear safety wise, but is not the be all and end all.  My father in law is one of the smartest people I've ever met, his personal choice is to wear as little safety gear as he legally can.  He enjoys the experience of riding without a helmet, jacket, gloves, rigid boots, etc.
     If he was in an accident he is more than capable of paying any damages to himself or anybody else, or in the event of a fatal accident his family would be taken care of.
     So call it personal responsibility if you want, is his situation different than the 20 something kid who took out a loan on a bike and gets into an accident for which he can't pay the medical bills?  I think it is night and day, but it is too specific a situation for the government to make laws around.
     Anyway, I have a hard time maintaining my train of thought, but I don't think weather someone wears gear or not is based primarily on intellect, it's a personal choice and people of all different kinds will end up on either side of the gear/no gear deal.

He also lifted his visor quite a few times. What would have happened if a bee would have come flying into his helmet?

I can't imagine riding less than atgatt, beyond short circles in the parking lot in my condo complex. Being on the road with rolling phone booths means I have to be ready for anything. In a post-apocalyptic world where there are no cars, I'd ride naked. Other people scare the gear onto me.

Looking for a better photo but this is what these guys wear.

CHP

(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3063955/2/istockphoto_3063955-motorcycle-cop.jpg)

City cops in some small city in So Cal

(http://www.motofoto.cc/LVPD1.jpg)

Northern Ireland police
(http://www.motofoto.cc/NorthernIrelandIan1.jpg)

I was looking around for a pic of the CHP gear, but could only find this:


(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll67/cjhernan/Gay-YouAre-01.jpg)

Nice hair.

The bee would have either landed on a fries or got stuck in the shake.

Question regarding the Ireland Police: do they have a gun holstered on the other hip too? You know, so you don't have to let off of the throttle to squeeze off a few rounds.   [evil]

sac

   In Ireland, they prolly have a vision guided missle launcher on the bike!!    But that is why You have left hand shoulder holster elsewhere..

that's not a gun, that's a whisky dispenser, like a bartender's fountain.

Does that Police bike really need an Akra system?  Aren't they all about regulating emissions and noise pollution?   ???

Yes. For when they race in the Northwest 200.  ;)


They can do whatever the make the beast with two backs they want. They are the POlice.  [leo]


 ;)



 ;D

Whaaattttt???? You mean they are not all law abiding citizens that follow the same rules they are set out to enforce?  That's just ludicrous!  ;)

ib4tl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOtlIN4Qeq0#normal)