Title: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: zooom on September 03, 2010, 04:10:20 AM FP1 results
Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff 1 3 M. Biaggi Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'56.571 2 84 M. Fabrizio Ducati 1098R 1'56.626 0.055 3 7 C. Checa Ducati 1098R 1'56.699 0.128 4 41 N. Haga Ducati 1098R 1'56.897 0.326 5 67 S. Byrne Ducati 1098R 1'56.967 0.396 6 65 J. Rea Honda CBR1000RR 1'56.973 0.402 7 35 C. Crutchlow Yamaha YZF R1 1'57.083 0.512 8 91 L. Haslam Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'57.225 0.654 9 11 T. Corser BMW S1000 RR 1'57.250 0.679 10 57 L. Lanzi Ducati 1098R 1'57.413 0.842 11 96 J. Smrz Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'57.418 0.847 12 50 S. Guintoli Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'57.728 1.157 13 99 L. Scassa Ducati 1098R 1'57.745 1.174 14 52 J. Toseland Yamaha YZF R1 1'57.831 1.260 15 111 R. Xaus BMW S1000 RR 1'57.835 1.264 16 2 L. Camier Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'57.919 1.348 17 66 T. Sykes Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'58.097 1.526 18 76 M. Neukirchner Honda CBR1000RR 1'58.542 1.971 19 95 R. Hayden Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'59.551 2.980 20 5 I. Lowry Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'59.784 3.213 21 33 F. Lai Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.916 4.345 22 15 M. Baiocco Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'01.990 5.419 Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: zooom on September 03, 2010, 06:46:01 AM FP2
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time 1 Carlos Checa Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 1:55.232 2 Troy Corser BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:55.447 3 Michel Fabrizio Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 1:55.753 4 Shane Byrne Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 1:55.998 5 Noriyuki Haga Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 1:56.077 6 Max Biaggi Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 1000 1:56.169 7 Cal Crutchlow Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:56.253 8 Jonathan Rea HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:56.340 9 Jakub Smrz Borciani-Guandalini Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 1000 1:56.436 10 Tom Sykes Kawasaki World Superbike Racing Team Kawasaki ZX 10R 1:56.617 11 Leon Haslam Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:56.617 12 Max Neukirchner HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:56.734 13 Luca Scassa Supersonic Team Ducati 1098R 1:56.799 14 Ruben Xaus BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:56.819 15 Lorezo Lanzi Ducati 1098R 1:56.825 16 Leon Camier Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 1000 1:56.838 17 Sylvain Guintoli Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:57.001 18 James Toseland Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:58.403 Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: Spidey on September 03, 2010, 09:45:08 AM Maybe, just maybe it's a Duc track? [laugh]
Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: MadDuck on September 03, 2010, 10:18:30 PM We'll see. It's about time for a knock down drag out fight. Haven't had one of those for a while and it' getting close to the season end.
Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: fastwin on September 04, 2010, 11:04:19 AM http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Sep/100904c.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Sep/100904c.htm)
Superpole results. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: zooom on September 07, 2010, 04:25:26 AM wholly Molly....I guess Haga getting the news of not having a ride for the Ducati factory next year ( not that I think he would have retained that ride with his performances this year) put a lil somethin something in his shorts afire....and I would have lopved to have seen Guintoli make a go of gettin by Max in race 2...
Race 1 results... Pos. Rider Team Bike 1 Jonathan Rea HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2 Carlos Checa Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 3 Cal Crutchlow Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 4 Max Biaggi Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 1000 5 Tom Sykes Kawasaki World Superbike Racing Team Kawasaki ZX 10R 6 Leon Haslam Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 7 Ruben Xaus BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 8 Sylvain Guintoli Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 9 Shane Byrne Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 10 Luca Scassa Supersonic Team Ducati 1098R 11 Lorenzo Lanzi DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 12 I Lowrey Kawasaki World Superbike Racing Team Kawasaki ZX 10R 13 Roger Lee Hayden Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 14 M. Baiocco Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R Toseland, Neuikirchner, Smrz, Haga and Fabrizio all crashed out. Corser rode off and DNF'd. and then Race 2 results... Pos. Rider Team Bike 1 Noriyuki Haga Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 2 Jonathan Rea HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 3 Leon Haslam Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 4 Cal Crutchlow Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 5 Max Biaggi Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 1000 6 Sylvain Guintoli Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 7 Tom Sykes Kawasaki World Superbike Racing Team Kawasaki ZX 10R 8 James Toseland Yamaha Sterilgarda Team Yamaha YZF R1 9 Ruben Xaus BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 10 Shane Byrne Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 11 Jakub Smrz Borciani-Guandalini Racing Team Ducati 1098R 12 Troy Corser BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 13 Lorenzo Lanzi DFX Ducati 1098R 14 Luca Scassa Supersonic Team Ducati 1098R 15 Max Neukirchner HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 16 Roger Lee Hayden Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 17 M. Baiocco Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 18 F. Lai Honda CBR1000RR 19 Michel Fabrizio Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R Margin of victory: 3 seconds. An incredible feat for Haga to take a lowly Ducati and beat a grid full of prototypes. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: duccarlos on September 07, 2010, 04:33:42 AM the Ape is the only bike that can be considered a prototype.
Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: zooom on September 07, 2010, 05:06:38 AM the Ape is the only bike that can be considered a prototype. true enough, but some look at the frankenstien differences between the race bikes and their homologation on the showroom floor counterparts....and that Ducati is the closest resemblance to what you can drive off the showroom floor....the R1 for example is so far from being that kinship, that it makes it hard...but they are within the rule parameters...so it is fine...the Ape just happened to exploit a bit of the wording that has been changed for next year, so we shall see... Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: gm2 on September 07, 2010, 11:57:02 AM true enough, but some look at the frankenstien differences between the race bikes and their homologation on the showroom floor counterparts....and that Ducati is the closest resemblance to what you can drive off the showroom floor....the R1 for example is so far from being that kinship, that it makes it hard...but they are within the rule parameters...so it is fine... other than the [wsbk legal] gas tank, and the usual race refinements, how is the R1 "so far"? what does an 1198s cost? what does a japanese liter bike cost? ...maybe from a marketing perspective ducati has chosen to produce street bikes that are a hell of a lot closer to their race versions. the japanese are free to do the same thing. ..what i'm getting at is, despite the year they've had, "lowly ducati" is some nonsense ;) Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: Spidey on September 07, 2010, 12:55:59 PM An incredible feat for Haga to take a lowly Ducati and beat a grid full of prototypes. Checa's been doing that all season (other than Biaggi). And with a privateer bike. It sucks that Rea's Honda has been so hit-or-miss this year. In preseason, I thought he'd have a go at it with Biaggi this year, but he's so far back that's his late season charge is totally pointless. Where's he going next year? I thought a factory Duc would be good, but it doesn't look that way. He can't stay with Honda if they're going to produce a bike that finicky. <usual refrain> BTW, since WSBK has been a bit of a disappointment this year when I expected it to be a barnburner every round, I've taken up AMA Daytona Sportbike as my favorite racing to watch. It's make the beast with two backsin' awesome. Pretend like ya don't hate DMG and Speed for a weekend and watch the races. Soooo worth it. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: zooom on September 07, 2010, 03:47:54 PM other than the [wsbk legal] gas tank, and the usual race refinements, how is the R1 "so far"? what does an 1198s cost? what does a japanese liter bike cost? ...maybe from a marketing perspective ducati has chosen to produce street bikes that are a hell of a lot closer to their race versions. the japanese are free to do the same thing. ..what i'm getting at is, despite the year they've had, "lowly ducati" is some nonsense ;) strip the skins or look at the naked stripped and skinless bikes when they post those pictures and see if an R1 looks anything like a naked one you see in a service department....do the same with the Ducati...you tell me... it isn't just the gas tank, it is electronics and all sorts of trickness that is all over those machines that you will not find elsewhere...but the Duc is alot closer to it's customer counterparts, especially since the gridded privateer bikes are pretty much 1198R's reskinned and repackaged with the spec'd and needed accoutrements for racing. AMA Daytona Sportbike as my favorite racing to watch. It's make the beast with two backsin' awesome. Pretend like ya don't hate DMG and Speed for a weekend and watch the races. Soooo worth it. I have to admit...I have caught a race or 2 in that series...and they are indeed some great races indeed....comparable to WSS as far as passing and not being a yawnfest of a parade. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: duccarlos on September 08, 2010, 02:16:29 AM Let's see if the close racing in AMA produces the world class riders of "tomorrow".
The Beemer is also another bike that follows the "prototype" tag, but since it's so inconsistent no one complains. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: gm2 on September 08, 2010, 08:19:06 AM it isn't just the gas tank, it is electronics and all sorts of trickness that is all over those machines that you will not find elsewhere...but the Duc is alot closer to it's customer counterparts, especially since the gridded privateer bikes are pretty much 1198R's reskinned and repackaged with the spec'd and needed accoutrements for racing. that's the point i was making.. ducati made the [marketing] choice to sell a race bike with lights and mirrors. and you pay for it. the japanese sell you the base bike for a lot less and you get to track it out if you so choose. electronics, duh. those packages cost more than the bikes do. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: ducpainter on September 11, 2010, 01:58:46 AM zooom is right.
Haga's looking for a ride. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: gm2 on September 11, 2010, 08:18:01 AM zooom is right. Haga's looking for a ride. no doubt. he was pretty clear about not retiring. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: ducpainter on September 11, 2010, 12:09:28 PM no doubt. he was pretty clear about not retiring. I don't think he needs to.When he's motivated and has a decent bike he's as competitive as any of them. Title: Re: 2010 WSBK Round 12-Nurburgring (spoilers!) Post by: gm2 on September 13, 2010, 06:50:33 AM I don't think he needs to. When he's motivated and has a decent bike he's as competitive as any of them. yeah, tbh i miss the 2007/2008 nori. same with jt. 2007, anyway. |