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Title: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: JimmyTheDriver on September 07, 2010, 03:51:03 AM
Hey fellas,

Looking to have my udder/naked Termi Shorty (no carbon fiber cover) exhaust ceramic coated.  Figure it might look pretty sweet, and different.

Any local places you all have used?  I am in Arlington, but willing to drive a decent distance if the price and quality is right.  I figure there has to be something in Manassas... they have all sorts of fun stuff over there.

Thanks!
Jimmy


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: tocino on September 07, 2010, 04:02:27 AM
I used this guy and was happy with the results:

http://www.figureengineering.com (http://www.figureengineering.com)


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: JimmyTheDriver on September 07, 2010, 04:48:37 AM
Thanks man!  Sent them an email.

-Jimmy


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: DRKWNG on September 07, 2010, 11:53:12 AM
I used this guy and was happy with the results:

http://www.figureengineering.com (http://www.figureengineering.com)

I get the impression that he likes to work on bicycles.   ;D


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 07, 2010, 02:48:52 PM
How do you figure?

Please post up what sort of response you get. I'm looking for a Thermal barrier ceramic coating for my exhaust. If they have that capability, I'd much prefer a local shop than having to ship it off.


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: DRKWNG on September 07, 2010, 04:04:40 PM
How do you figure?

Did you look at the web site?  Tons of bicycle frames on there.   [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 07, 2010, 04:08:32 PM
Uh... Apparently I didn't properly format my <sarcasm> tag.  [roll]


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: tocino on September 07, 2010, 04:25:12 PM
Please post up what sort of response you get. I'm looking for a Thermal barrier ceramic coating for my exhaust. If they have that capability, I'd much prefer a local shop than having to ship it off.

That's what he did on my Guzzi and also did the outside black:

(http://stevebacon.org/images/MotoGuzzi/Black_Exhaust_Right_640.jpg)

The guy's name is Len and he was good to deal with.


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: zooom on September 08, 2010, 03:13:24 AM
I know these guys do powdercoating and several members here have used them...not sure if they do ceramic, but worth looking/asking...

http://www.ascoweb.com/ (http://www.ascoweb.com/)


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 08, 2010, 03:19:13 AM
That's what he did on my Guzzi and also did the outside black:

Sharpish!
Though I'm looking for more of a metallic look like Jet Hott offers in some of their coatings. Guess I'll just have to give them a call.


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: JimmyTheDriver on September 08, 2010, 03:35:30 AM
For those interested -

Email to guys at http://www.figureengineering.com (http://www.figureengineering.com):

Looking into ceramic coating for a motorcycle exhaust.  It would be a couple of feet worth of tubing and a small stainless steel (I believe) muffler piece.  Is ceramic the way to go on high heat applications?  What does something like this generally run?  What is the turnaround time?
 
Response:

Yes, ceramic is the way to go for high heat.  Pricing is generally around $25/ft, thermal barrier inside and color of your choice outside (except mufflers, external only).  Ordered ceramics are an additional $30.  In-stock ceramic turnaround is 2-3 days, ordered around 12.  Thanks!


Seems like a reasonable price as it includes the thermal barrier.  Will probably go through them when the weather takes a turn for the worse.

-Jimmy



Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: zooom on September 08, 2010, 03:40:04 AM
For those interested -

Email to them:

Looking into ceramic coating for a motorcycle exhaust.  It would be a couple of feet worth of tubing and a small stainless steel (I believe) muffler piece.  Is ceramic the way to go on high heat applications?  What does something like this generally run?  What is the turnaround time?
 
Response:

Yes, ceramic is the way to go for high heat.  Pricing is generally around $25/ft, thermal barrier inside and color of your choice outside (except mufflers, external only).  Ordered ceramics are an additional $30.  In-stock ceramic turnaround is 2-3 days, ordered around 12.  Thanks!


Seems like a reasonable price as it includes the thermal barrier.  Will probably go through them when the weather takes a turn for the worse.

-Jimmy



from which shop was that response?


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: JimmyTheDriver on September 08, 2010, 04:58:56 AM
My bad.  The one Tocino recommended...

http://www.figureengineering.com (http://www.figureengineering.com)

On a side note, its amazing how active the CAM section is!  I am new around here and can't believe how many views/posts this has gotten in 24 hours.  Practically more than the general comments section.

-Jimmy


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 08, 2010, 05:04:22 AM
not sure if it still holds - but for a while CAM was 2nd only to General Monster in the number of posts per day.


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: JimmyTheDriver on September 08, 2010, 05:06:12 AM
What is the benefit of the "thermal barrier"?  Keep the pipes a bit cooler, improve airflow?

-Jimmy


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: Slide Panda on September 08, 2010, 05:53:23 AM
It keeps the external temps of the header pipes a good bit cooler. Though ymmv Jet Hott claims a temp drop of 35%. Though there's a lot of speculation on the point, it's said that it'll also make a bit more power as well due to better exhaust scavenging. Last, most of the coatings are more corrosion resistant than the steels used


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: 696DCRider on September 08, 2010, 06:17:23 AM
I wonder if this would help with the amount of heat I get from my bike on hot days.  I've never really truly thought about if the heat I feel is coming mainly from the pipe or the engine itself. 

It keeps the external temps of the header pipes a good bit cooler. Though ymmv Jet Hott claims a temp drop of 35%. Though there's a lot of speculation on the point, it's said that it'll also make a bit more power as well due to better exhaust scavenging. Last, most of the coatings are more corrosion resistant than the steels used


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: Slide Panda on November 12, 2010, 09:23:30 AM
So I dropped an email on Figure Engineering. They go back to me quite quickly. Exhaust coating is about $20 per foot of pipe. Though that's just a rough estimate and lots of parts or prep would raise the cost. They have a show room and apparently 26 different ceramics to pick from... I'll be trekking out there at some point to see their wears.



Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: 696DCRider on November 12, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
So how much do you think it's going to run you in total for all the work based on that estimate?
So I dropped an email on Figure Engineering. They go back to me quite quickly. Exhaust coating is about $20 per foot of pipe. Though that's just a rough estimate and lots of parts or prep would raise the cost. They have a show room and apparently 26 different ceramics to pick from... I'll be trekking out there at some point to see their wears.




Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: Slide Panda on November 12, 2010, 11:11:02 AM
I'm betting mine won't be so cheap. But, big BUT, I do not have stock exhausts. I've got the '916 Style' exhaust and it's got more pipe-footage than stock and a lot more individual pieces. I think I've got 11 sections that would need to be done.


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: 696DCRider on November 12, 2010, 11:15:04 AM
I'll have to roughly measure how many feet my exhaust is to get an idea of how much it will run me.  Definitely post some pics of the finished product.


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: JimmyTheDriver on November 12, 2010, 12:24:25 PM
Agreed - please post pics!  I am just waiting for the season to be over before I pop the pipes off.

-Jimmy


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: Slide Panda on November 12, 2010, 12:42:02 PM
Well, coating is last on my list of stuff to spend money on this winter. I've got some need items first, this is just a want item.


Title: Re: Ceramic coating in DC area?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on November 12, 2010, 02:49:44 PM
For what it's worth, I've heat-wrapped the header on my vertical cylinder and it's made a difference when riding in the city.


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