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Title: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Adamm0621 on September 09, 2010, 07:34:11 AM
So, I got bit by the Mod bug the other day and started tallying up the price for all of the mods I want to do to my Monster.  The end price was close to 4k dollars, with the more expensive bits being upgraded suspension and steering-dampner.  Then there's all the carbon fiber pieces that I want, new seat, aftermarket mirrors, etc...  The way I look at it, the price of the mods is almost equivalent of a down payment on another motorcycle.  I've really been lusting after the dark 848 or the new dark 848 Evo.  What to do... Mod like crazy or add a new bike to the stable?

For general info, I currently have a 2010 696 with tail-chop, 14t front sprocket, frame sliders, and CF Termi exhaust.  I love the power of the 696 but wouldn't mind a little more on occasion.  I don't need two Monsters, so there's no point in getting the 1100, the Hypermotard is cool, but I'd definitely like the 848 if I ever get a second bike.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: NoisyDante on September 09, 2010, 07:54:19 AM
Were clip-ons on your list of mods?  That alone really transforms the feel of the bike, puts you in a riding position very similar to an 848.  Not to stave off your bike lust, by all means build up your stable, variety is the spice of life.   [moto]
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: muffinman on September 09, 2010, 07:56:21 AM
...and what makes you think you won't spend another $4k in mods on your new 848?  ;)

I can understand the temptation, though - the 848 dark is pure sex.

You ride a motorcycle, there is no logic.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: duccarlos on September 09, 2010, 08:30:58 AM
You'll you spen 4K in one shot out throughout a period of time?
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Drjones on September 09, 2010, 08:43:46 AM
Depends on what your budget is.  If your budget is $4k then adding another bike that is $13k isn't logical.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Cider on September 09, 2010, 09:36:21 AM
Some problems with modding:


If those things don't bother you, then mod away.  Personally, I think it's fun.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on September 09, 2010, 10:05:32 AM
You could also buy a used bike for track use, etc. 4K is enough to buy all sorts of fun toys. While you will then be maintaining two bikes and the like, at least you can sell one-you'll find the moment you buy and install those mods, they aren't worth much.

There's also spousal approval, if you have one.


You could just send me money and I'll tell you how much better your bike looks now than before.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: duccarlos on September 09, 2010, 10:08:20 AM
the kid's too pretty for a track bike, you know that!
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: geoffduc on September 09, 2010, 10:34:37 AM
I started to add up the cost of my mods to the S4Rs and Hyper, frightened the shit out of myself but hey what the hell its only money and besides it makes them special... [bow_down]

[coffee]
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Adamm0621 on September 09, 2010, 12:51:48 PM
I'm going to Afghanistan soon, so I'll have plenty of money when I get back.  My wife lets me do whatever I want with our money because I usually don't spend much on myself.  We're out of debt, we're selling the only car that we owe any money on, and the Monster will be paid off in a few months.  I'm just sort of brainstorming on what to do...Mod, or second bike.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: herm on September 09, 2010, 02:31:20 PM
making payments on a new bike makes less sense that modding the bike you already have.

more so if you are already making payments on the first bike.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Goat_Herder on September 09, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
Even if you choose to put downpayment on the 848, you will still want to spend money on mods.  the difference is - you will want to spend even MORE money to mod 2 bikes.

I vote for modding what you have and get a track bike when you feel like going fast.  On a track, of course.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Desmo Demon on September 09, 2010, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: muffinman on September 09, 2010, 07:56:21 AM
...and what makes you think you won't spend another $4k in mods on your new 848?

The best mods I've even done to my bike(s) are gas, oil, tires, and chain and sprockets. Everything else I view as a waste of my money.....and for what most people spend on mods, I just buy more bikes - 9 running ones currently in the stable.   ;D
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: GBusa on September 09, 2010, 02:51:41 PM
 I usually go the mod route.
I usually also had more than one bike in the stable at a time, sometimes 3 the most 7. do too some moves, job changes ect, I find myself with but one machine at the moment.
So this go round, I've decided that outside of a few little things, My new 796 is almost perfect as it sits  ;)
So that leaves me on the side of passing on major mods and adding a second bike to the stable.
While I plan on doing thrifty upgrades in the future to both.
Things like buying the like new take offs from folks modding models up the food chain from my bikes. Or waiting out the deals and such.
Good luck with your decission.
GB
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: fastwin on September 09, 2010, 04:29:21 PM
I'm no good here. I mod my bikes and buy new ones too. Not so much lately due to the bad economy. But that's been the trend for years. It's not that smart but they are all payed for and I have the ability to stop modding/buying whenever necessary. I think that's the key. "A man has to know his limitations"... Clint Eastwood. [thumbsup] [moto]
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Kopfjager on September 09, 2010, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on September 09, 2010, 10:05:32 AM
There's also spousal approval,



[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] That's some funny shit right there.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Raux on September 09, 2010, 08:21:23 PM
When you get back, get a Multistrada 1200 S Touring.

You get the power of the 848 + comfort and travelling ability with the wife.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Moronic on September 09, 2010, 09:26:00 PM
I'm surprised by how many no-mod replies.

Especially since the OP is talking mainly of modding the very basic suspension on his 696, which he's already put termis on.

The way I look at it, it depends on whether you love the bike and want to hold on to it, or if you see it just as a stepping stone to something bigger, newer or different.

If it fits you and you like the power, then a Termied 696 with nice suspension, specced for you, would be a blast, IMO. Great city bike that could hold its own in the twisties with just about anything at sane speeds. Quite the sleeper, really, if you can ride well.

If you're thinking of moving on though, why bother? Most potential buyers won't see the value.

BTW: With nice suspension, you may find no need for a steering damper.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: NorDog on September 10, 2010, 09:21:44 AM
Mods a cool, but like tattoos what starts out simple enough can soon get outta hand.

(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj58/IbrahimMughal/Tattoo%20Collection/tattoos.jpg)
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: WhiteStripe on September 10, 2010, 10:31:51 AM
You suck.  Now i want an 848 Dark too.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on September 10, 2010, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: WhiteStripe on September 10, 2010, 10:31:51 AM
You suck.  Now i want an 848 Dark too.

Because of the back tattoo.....?
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: poseur on September 10, 2010, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: Adamm3406 on September 09, 2010, 12:51:48 PM
I'm going to Afghanistan soon, so I'll have plenty of money when I get back.

If you make it back. Be careful over there, please. Strange times indeed.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on September 10, 2010, 12:13:22 PM
Quote from: poseur on September 10, 2010, 12:09:39 PM
If When you make it back. Be careful over there, please. Strange times indeed.

Fixed.


Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Adamm0621 on September 10, 2010, 12:38:57 PM
Quote from: Moronic on September 09, 2010, 09:26:00 PM
I'm surprised by how many no-mod replies.

Especially since the OP is talking mainly of modding the very basic suspension on his 696, which he's already put termis on.

The way I look at it, it depends on whether you love the bike and want to hold on to it, or if you see it just as a stepping stone to something bigger, newer or different.

If it fits you and you like the power, then a Termied 696 with nice suspension, specced for you, would be a blast, IMO. Great city bike that could hold its own in the twisties with just about anything at sane speeds. Quite the sleeper, really, if you can ride well.

If you're thinking of moving on though, why bother? Most potential buyers won't see the value.

BTW: With nice suspension, you may find no need for a steering damper.
I definitely love my 696 and plan on keeping it.  It's great for around town and has plenty of power.  The purchase of the 848 wouldn't be because I've out grown the Monster, but because I want another Ducati and I have no need for any thing bigger than the 848.  I'm fairly realistic when it comes to horsepower and the 696 already produces more than I can handle (legally), but the 848 dark is gorgeous and would look great next to my dark 696.

I don't know much about the possible 848 mods, but the only one I plan on doing is adding CF Termis to it as well. (Probably just the slip-ons, don't think I can justify the cost of the full system)  That being said, I still plan on modding the Monster even if I get the 848, it's just a question of what gift do I give myself as a "welcome home from combat" present... a fully modded 696, or a new 848?  See the dilemma?
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: GBusa on September 10, 2010, 02:03:46 PM
Quote from: Adamm3406 on September 10, 2010, 12:38:57 PM
I still plan on modding the Monster even if I get the 848, it's just a question of what gift do I give myself as a "welcome home from combat" present... a fully modded 696, or a new 848?  See the dilemma?


No Dilemma at all! 848 all the way.
As you said, You will mod the monster anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Duck-Stew on September 10, 2010, 06:48:17 PM
I cannot comment as I have a STUPID amount of $$$$$$$$ tied up in a 1999 M750.

Stay safe over there!  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: sbrguy on September 10, 2010, 07:34:34 PM
if you have that much money but want to get a little more speed at times, upgrade to the 1100 or the 796 and mod that. 

the 796 might give you the torque you want and mod the heck out of that.

remember the 848 is a great looking bike but really to really use it for what its for its really more of a track/canyon road bike.  sure if you have the income and such buy it and create a stable of bikes, but rmember a true sport bike may look really cool but a monster style bike or sport tourer will probably give you 90% of what you need and want.  that extra 10% well that is up to you.

good luck.

i wish i didn't mod my 620 as much as i did otherwise i would have upgraded already there is no way i'm getting nearly anything back on money if i sell it even if i part it out...
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: Adamm0621 on September 11, 2010, 03:58:41 PM
Upgrading to the 796 or the 1100 crossed my mind, but I really love my 696.  Neither the 796 or the 1100 come in matte black nor would they be as good for me as the 696.  I'm a short guy (5'7'') with a 29 inch inseam, so I can't even flat foot the 696.  If I was going to upgrade to a bigger Monster it would be the 1100.  But I'm more than comfortable with my 696, and there's no point in me owning two bikes where I can barely touch the ground (1100 Monster and 848).  The 696 is staying with me till it dies, but I definitely want a second bike sometime in the future and the 848 Dark has me by the balls in such an exquisite fashion that no other bike can hold my interest in any real form.
Title: Re: Is logic really all that important?
Post by: 1KDS on September 11, 2010, 04:18:13 PM
buy it dude, you only live once