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Title: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: jvax on September 11, 2010, 08:14:13 PM
Ducati Japan launched the 796 but to my surprise, only imported the red and the white ones in the first batch.  10 out of the 10 deals that I called confirmed this.  My dealer even went ahead and asked Ducati Japan if they've received any orders for a black 796, but they said no.  So, it looks like I will be the first owner of a black 796 in Japan!!  Ain't that a nice feeling  :D  Can't wait to go pick it up in a couple of weeks.

Been looking into mods, only to find out that Termis aren't street legal in Japan, so my Ducati dealer won't fit them for me  :(  He told me to order some from the US, would be cheaper than buying them here (currency exchange rate thing...), and find a racing shop to fit them for me.  Kinda disappointed, but can't really do anything about it.  I'm also looking at a short tail and rizoma barend mirrors.  Gotta shop for a jacket, gloves, boots and helmet.  Exciting times  [moto]
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: Duc796canada on September 12, 2010, 12:05:49 AM
Good stuff, they are great bikes, I like mine(796 Red). Show us some pics of the black one once you get and put on the goodies, I was partial to the black one, but they didn't have it at my dealership so i got a red one. funny...in Canada they seem to have just the red ones in stock most of the time! the one thing you should get your dealer to do for you, is the gearing change. Whether you want one down on the front(14T) or two up on the back(41T), get them to do it before you go out!
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: jvax on September 12, 2010, 04:27:50 AM
Quote from: Duc796canada on September 12, 2010, 12:05:49 AM
Good stuff, they are great bikes, I like mine(796 Red). Show us some pics of the black one once you get and put on the goodies, I was partial to the black one, but they didn't have it at my dealership so i got a red one. funny...in Canada they seem to have just the red ones in stock most of the time! the one thing you should get your dealer to do for you, is the gearing change. Whether you want one down on the front(14T) or two up on the back(41T), get them to do it before you go out!

Thanks for the tips.  I'll def. post pics when I get it.  I did ask about the front 14T.  Dealer said to ride the bike normal for a little while before modding the gearing.  That way I would know the difference when I do the mod.  Also, he recommended I mod the rear instead of the front.  Said a front 14T would make a big difference only when taking off, whereas a rear 40T or 41T would increase the torque throughout the whole rev range.  I am guessing he is right to some extent... although I'd appreciate if someone can comment on this  :)
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: z0mb1e_DUC on September 12, 2010, 05:35:16 AM
down in the front or up in the back is essentially the same thing.  It will feel the same.  You will probably need a new chain, depending how much you go up in the rear.  Mechanically, you may get better wear out of the rear sprocket change.  When you reduce the front, it changes the diameter of the sprocket, potentially placing more wear on the chain & sprocket.  I personally haven't enough experience with it to be able to comment.  It will be cheaper to do the front, especially if you have to replace the chain if it's too short with the larger rear sprocket. It probably will be if you go up the 2 or 3 teeth in the rear that most people do.
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: Duc796canada on September 12, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
This web site will give some more info on gearing and chain length: http://www.gearingcommander.com/ (http://www.gearingcommander.com/)

I personally like the rear sprocket swap better than the front(15/41), look at your RPM in each gear for a given speed and determine which combo you like. Most of us won't hit 120 MPH on this monster, just a thought.
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: iRam on September 12, 2010, 04:25:18 PM
great choice!!!  [thumbsup] i got mine 2 months ago. she never fails to put a smile on my face. have fun!!!
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: Amlethae on September 12, 2010, 04:56:58 PM
The Termi system (slip-ons) really isn't hard to install yourself.  Hardest part is removing the tank or holding it up long enough to install the new ECU.  Everything else is totally doable yourself.  Save some money, but get it done!  [evil]
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: speedknot on September 12, 2010, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: Duc796canada on September 12, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
Most of us won't hit 120 MPH on this monster, just a thought.

I just had my M750 on the open highway yesterday and put it to the test.  When I reached 100-110mph I felt like I was going to get blown off the thing.  It was getting quite squirly at that speed too.  I wont be taking up that high again.  Knowing that, I just ordered a 14T to alleviate some of the low rpm chugging.  It seems like many members here do this with great success.
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: jvax on September 12, 2010, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: Duc796canada on September 12, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
This web site will give some more info on gearing and chain length: http://www.gearingcommander.com/ (http://www.gearingcommander.com/)
I had seen that site before, but was having a hard time recalling what the URL was.  Thanks for that  [beer]
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: jvax on September 12, 2010, 06:45:21 PM
Quote from: iRam on September 12, 2010, 04:25:18 PM
great choice!!!  [thumbsup] i got mine 2 months ago. she never fails to put a smile on my face. have fun!!!

Thanks!  I just saw your pics!  Can't wait to get mine.  I'm sure I'll be doing a lot of the smiling you mention   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: jvax on September 12, 2010, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: Amlethae on September 12, 2010, 04:56:58 PM
The Termi system (slip-ons) really isn't hard to install yourself.  Hardest part is removing the tank or holding it up long enough to install the new ECU.  Everything else is totally doable yourself.  Save some money, but get it done!  [evil]

Yeah... the dealer was saying the same thing.  Problem is that I live in an apartment building, and aside from the parking spot I have for the bike, I don't have any space to work on the bike myself.  Plus, being still a n00b, I'm not too sure about removing the tank by myself any time soon...  although does sound fun to work on the bike by myself!!  Maybe when I can afford a house with a garage ;)
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: jvax on September 12, 2010, 07:00:15 PM
Quote from: Duc796canada on September 12, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
I personally like the rear sprocket swap better than the front(15/41), look at your RPM in each gear for a given speed and determine which combo you like. Most of us won't hit 120 MPH on this monster, just a thought.

Agree.  As z0mb1e_DUC mentioned, the rear sprocket swap yields better chain wear.  I'll probably ride normal for a few months, then go for a rear 41T.

Quote from: speedknot on September 12, 2010, 05:50:28 PM
I just had my M750 on the open highway yesterday and put it to the test.  When I reached 100-110mph I felt like I was going to get blown off the thing.  It was getting quite squirly at that speed too.  I wont be taking up that high again.  Knowing that, I just ordered a 14T to alleviate some of the low rpm chugging.  It seems like many members here do this with great success.

I seriously doubt I'll ever go beyond 80-90mph on a naked bike on an open road / freeway.  Too afraid of what a high speed crash might do to me, and of [leo] of course  :P
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: Duc796canada on September 13, 2010, 11:06:57 AM
No sweat jvax,

one thing you might consider is having a friend with a garage and some know how help you. Also, make the blue thread lock your friend, every screw nut and bolt that goes into metal, put a dab of thread lock and don't over tighten. This one a personal thing I do too, every electrical connection I come across, I put some dielectric grease for safe measure. I treat the bike like an aircraft, no short cuts because a lot of times if some goes wrong mechanically, one is S.O.L. [moto]
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: speedknot on September 13, 2010, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Duc796canada on September 13, 2010, 11:06:57 AM
no short cuts because a lot of times if some goes wrong mechanically, one is S.O.L. [moto]

That's something that goes through my head whenever I'm wrenching on my bike myself.  Especially if you're messing with the front end or the wheels or brakes.  It's not like you have 4 tires on the ground and can afford to forget something.  If you fail to tighten a bolt here or there it could mean taking a nasty spill. I double check everything.
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: iRam on September 13, 2010, 01:11:01 PM
+1 on not going more than 90mph. It gets very uncomfortable beyond that.
Title: Re: Ordered a black 796 yesterday
Post by: jvax on September 13, 2010, 06:03:07 PM
Duc796Canada, speedknot,

Small mods like barend mirrors I'll definitely manage to do on my own, but things like slip-ons/ ECU, sprockets etc, honestly don't see meself attempting that kind of mod any time soon.

In any case, just got word today from my dealer that my M796 black is on a ship sailing to Japan as we speak ;D.  It will arrive on 16-Sep, go through the never ending inspection round for imported bikes (emission, electrical, suspension, safety, noise levels etc...) at the inspection centre, then it will go thru a second round of pre-delivery maintenance/servicing at the dealer's service factory (tightening bolts, checking and rechecking of everything basically...), get registered etc...  long story short, expected pick up date is October 3 [thumbsup].

PS: If anyone cares to read about the inspection system in Japan, there is some good info on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor-vehicle_inspection_(Japan) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor-vehicle_inspection_(Japan)).  Very annoying that I'll have to put the bike thru it all over again in 3 years, then every two years after that...