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Title: More noise complaints
Post by: Cider on September 13, 2010, 06:15:10 AM
I saw this article this morning.  derby?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100913/ap_on_re_us/us_motorcycle_noise (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100913/ap_on_re_us/us_motorcycle_noise)

A crackdown on loud exhausts makes me a little sad, but I don't know how to promote motorcycling and expect people to tolerate loud bikes at the same time  :-\.  I don't live in CA, but I put my removeable baffles back in last fall and haven't removed them since.  Initially I did it because I felt a little guilty, but now I actually prefer it.


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: fastwin on September 13, 2010, 06:34:21 AM
I love my bikes and their aftermarket pipes but I am very conscience of their ability to piss people off. I don't blip the throttle at intersections and don't pound downshifts through the neighborhood. Not to pick on Harley and metric cruisers but they do seem to be the biggest offenders. Yeah, sure, there is always some teenager on a loud pipe 600 bouncing it off the rev limiter in town but the straight piped v-twin bikes far out number them. At least in my town. My neighbor (who's great guy!) loves to warm up his straight piped Harley at 7:00AM for weekend rides and I swear it idles for 10 minutes outside our bedroom window then he blips the shit out of the throttle for another 10 minutes while he adjusts his do-rag and finally leaves. Not the kind of weekend alarm I need. [bang]

I do see this kind of law becoming more and more popular. Lots of people don't like bikes and they would love to pass laws that pick on us. They don't think twice about all the "tuned" Civics with their fart can mufflers or all the tens of thousands of screaming 2 stroke weed eaters and leave blowers. Why don't they stick EPA mufflers on those?


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on September 13, 2010, 06:47:42 AM
Oh no it's not me with my aftermarket pipe! It's the other guy with his aftermarket pipe!


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: muskrat on September 13, 2010, 06:56:29 AM
article: "For years, residents in Pavley's district have complained about bikes that rumble along Pacific Coast Highway and echo through the twisting canyons of Malibu, Calabasas and Agoura Hills."

they live next to a MAJOR highway.  did they expect no noise?  crack down on the cars/trucks first.

there are plenty of offenders of all types but I will go so far as to say, at least here in TX, Squids and Cruisers are equal opportunity offenders. 

now, is pissing in your yard also illegal there?  [bang]


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: fastwin on September 13, 2010, 07:09:10 AM
I draw the line at a law against pissing in your yard! >:( Some things are sacred and you have to stand your ground. Freedom is never free! ;D

The people who pregnant dog about bike noise on the highway next to their house are the same ones who live next to gun ranges and airports and want them shut down. :P


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: duccarlos on September 13, 2010, 07:10:57 AM
You might be under the impression that this law is focusing on the sport bikers? It's probably more aimed at the straight piped cruisers. California needs a better motorcycle lobby.


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: muskrat on September 13, 2010, 07:36:21 AM
California needs a better motorcycle lobby.

sounds like it but the budget needs a little bit of juice so I guess this will be the norm.  >:(


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: zarn02 on September 13, 2010, 11:06:59 AM
sounds like it but the budget needs a little bit of juice so I guess this will be the norm.  >:(

And let's not kid ourselves... most "public nuisance" laws are wallet-focused.

My 996 had a Termignoni full-system on it. It was extremely loud. I tried to avoid making a complete spectacle of myself in town.


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: derby on September 13, 2010, 11:24:38 AM
article: "For years, residents in Pavley's district have complained about bikes that rumble along Pacific Coast Highway and echo through the twisting canyons of Malibu, Calabasas and Agoura Hills."

they live next to a MAJOR highway.  did they expect no noise?  crack down on the cars/trucks first.

there are plenty of offenders of all types but I will go so far as to say, at least here in TX, Squids and Cruisers are equal opportunity offenders. 

now, is pissing in your yard also illegal there?  [bang]

i'd hardly call PCH a "major" highway... that said,  i'm sure the complaints are more about noise in the residential canyons.


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: White Monster on September 13, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
Maine just passed a law saying nothing louder the stock and that is for everyone, cars, trucks, and bikes.


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: zarn02 on September 13, 2010, 11:39:53 AM
Maine just passed a law saying nothing louder the stock and that is for everyone, cars, trucks, and bikes.

Hell, stock can be louder than "stock," depending on how old the pipes are, and how much use they've seen.


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: kopfjÀger on September 13, 2010, 12:15:56 PM
Oh no it's not me with my aftermarket pipe! It's the other guy with his aftermarket pipe!

 [laugh]


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: zarn02 on September 13, 2010, 12:21:57 PM
A variation of a classic quote:

"Don't blame him, don't blame me, blame the man behind the tree!"


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: lofty55 on September 13, 2010, 04:31:54 PM
Great. More laws for me to break.  [evil]


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: muskrat on September 13, 2010, 04:49:45 PM
I still consider the highway a major roadway with lots of noise.  Glad I live where there's TONS of land.  :P


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: DoubleEagle on September 13, 2010, 05:25:04 PM
I think my pipes are pretty loud , especially on the " R " ( 102 dbs )....but I can't hear them w, the earplugs I wear.

In fact I can't hear hardly anything w, them in !

Dolph     :)


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: Privateer on September 14, 2010, 03:03:16 PM
that bill actually started as a emissions test for motorcycles and was neutered and watered down to this point.  It's funny how the focus went from one thing to another until it finally passed.  Originally it was going to be retroactive to like 2001 or something.  Crazy.

the really crazy part is we already have noise abatement laws on the books.  All this does is say 'after 2012 your cans need some special stamp that most LEO can't identify already.'

The world is gonna end in 2012 anyway, I'm not worried ;)


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: redxblack on September 14, 2010, 05:19:15 PM
I just purchased an aftermarket slip-on set from Italy. They came with a card that said the cans meets euro emissions standards. I wonder if that nearly incomprehensible card would be enough for a loud traffic stop.


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: Doctor Woodrow on September 15, 2010, 06:51:28 AM
I think my pipes are pretty loud , especially on the " R " ( 102 dbs )....but I can't hear them w, the earplugs I wear.

In fact I can't hear hardly anything w, them in !

Dolph     :)

Aren't you like . . . 60? Its not the earplugs.

The Doc


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: muskrat on September 15, 2010, 02:57:13 PM
sounds like the stock pipes will now be priced close to Termis going forward.  [evil]  that is, for those who trashed their old ones.


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: zarn02 on September 15, 2010, 04:13:44 PM
sounds like the stock pipes will now be priced close to Termis going forward.  [evil]  that is, for those who trashed their old ones.

Aren't they already, if you have to buy them new in box? :P


Title: Re: More noise complaints
Post by: muskrat on September 17, 2010, 05:24:06 AM
good question.  I gave mine away  [bang]
lets hope TX doesn't pull the same stunt as CA or I'll be running an illegal registration.  [evil]


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