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Borrowed from Crash (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/large_picture/661432.html)

 :o

Damn, just damn. I mean that's got to be like a 55 degree lean angle he's got going on there.

He looks unbelievably relaxed to me.

I've never been on a track though.

That lean is damn near crazy!! 

That's not possible  [leo] I can prove it  >:(

No, seriously, I've seen racers do that on a regular basis. Impressive [thumbsup]
AFAIK - that's only possible because the tires bend/twist a little under pressure.

Form OK?
Maybe a knee down on those curbs spell t-t-t-t-r-r-r-ouble ?  More elbow/head/ass instead?

Carlos Checha? I think he knows something about cornering.

its ok as long as the rear sprocket doesn't drag...

That's photo-shopped. No one can do that! [laugh]

Yuppers!....

it's really just an optical illusion caused by the camera at an odd angle and raised curbing. look at how far his footpeg is from the track.

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I agree that the camera angle and curbing make it look insane...but damn, he's still way the hell over.  [bow_down]

...and

 :o :o

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On-camber corners with raised curbing always give those insane photos.  That's the ideal scenario for a good moto shot.

that is the tires for GP (and maybe WSBK as well) are made with such distinct V shaped profiles that they are optimized for traction contact patch while leaned over moreso than straight up and down...

@nick, yeah, he is a tiny bit crossed up.

Even the "local" (closest track is 5.5 hours away) club racers are getting some ridiculous lean angle these days:

(http://www.latebraker.com/galleries/MoM2010/1/Misc/Oleg_Lewis.jpg)

the R6 is good for that  =)

It just seems wrong to paint a Yamaha in Kawi racing green. ???

That's a great picture!  [thumbsup]

Some of the SoCal track junkies can get some serious lean too.  ;D

Where *is* that picture?

"that would depend on what your definition of "is" is"

-Clinton.

"Is our children learning?"
- The guy after Clinton

..this one?

(http://7mzdt.com/images/sow090108.jpg)

Ya, that one.  [thumbsup]

shameless plug? :P

pretty much.  but he did ask.  :)

Can't blame you bro.... ;D

no kidding!  but apparently that guy gets some $ from Bud Light Lime.  or he just really really likes the stuff.

He got some money from the local distributor.  There was a short write-up on him in the last Roadracing World magazine (Dave Lewis).


You don't need an excuse to post a cool picture like that.  Nice shot!

Here are a couple pics of CRA Novice racers this year. These are on flat corners. It's become a game for people to drag elbows now.
The first pic is of a kid who was a student of mine last year...now he's kicking butt racing.  [thumbsup]




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how does that even work? i guess tis 99% throttle control?

how does what work?

If you're asking about the pics that I posted, it's all about tire grip. In the first pic, they are carrying right at 100 mph. through that turn on MWs. (I've looked at my speedo on my cbr and it indicated higher, so the actual should be approx. 100) The big bikes carry even more. You are hard on the gas because this turn goes into the straight and you want to get a strong drive out.  This is incredibly grippy pavement here and people are getting rediculous lean angles in this section of the track. My teammate crashed his SV in this corner last weekend because he finally pushed the traction boundary too far...probably due to a tire that was losing grip, and he was starting to get obscene with his leaning.

But to answer your question...it's not a wide corner and you have to apex it just right or you will run off the outside. Radius of the turn = mph, and you use lean angle to set your radius. In a turn like this, you need a tight radius because of the turn being narrow, and at the same time, you are going fast to get the drive onto the straight. So, you have to lean far to tighten that radius. This is why you lean over so far in this turn. How you attain so much lean and speed in this turn is due to race tires and nice new grippy pavement. I love this turn.

The second pic is a fairly slow carousel that is gigantic. It's not high speed because at the end it dumps into a chicane so you actually scrub off speed in the last part of this turn. Again, it's really grippy pavement and here you are going maybe 60? (I've never looked at a speedo here) Lots of people are now dragging elbow through here and it's totally flat. You just go to a maintenance throttle and hold your rpms, hang off, and lean hard. Everyone is doing it just for fun.

I'll throw another pic up just for fun. Same corner but you should see the speed that this guy takes this corner. He set the new lap record on the day this pic was taken. He passed me going into this turn like I was standing still.  :o (for reference, I'm not exactly slow here) His name is Tony Kasper, former Canadian Superbike pro.


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...and confidence in the front end.   ;D

yup  ;)



Ok, I lied, I just looked for pics of me in the same turn and found one that I'll post. (I think I'll buy this pic now.) This is about my average lean angle in this turn. I've never pushed it that hard like Jonny in pic 1.


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[laugh] [laugh]


I don't know if it's possible to get more obscene than the pics you've posted. What's next helmet pucks?

Amazing shots!   [thumbsup]

Close  8)

(derby from another thread)

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Damn! 

My GF might shit down her leg if I tried that with her.

I dragged an elbow in a turn once, then the alarm went off and I had to go to work.  :D

Me too...

then I saw the bike sliding the other way and realized I'd crashed. ;)

 [laugh] to the previous two posts.

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(http://www.peterlenz.com/gallery/content/2009/On%20Track/03%20Draggin%20Elbow%20at%20Willow%20-%20Copyright%20etechphoto@usa.net.jpg)

Damnit, you just wanna get me all choked up again

I <3 this thread

:D