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Moto Board => Accessories & Mods => Topic started by: jfgducat on September 27, 2010, 10:01:03 PM

Title: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: jfgducat on September 27, 2010, 10:01:03 PM
so before i traded my 696 i bought my termi's
now I'm stuck with the DP ecu for the 696.

i was wondering what are my options?

is it OK to run the 696 ecu with the 796 ones?
Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: ungeheuer on September 28, 2010, 03:05:13 AM
Quote from: jfgducat on September 27, 2010, 10:01:03 PM.....is it OK to run the 696 ecu with the 796 ones?
um....  are you asking.... if its alright... to fit your DP696 ECU....  to your 796??   Coz that'd be a huge  [thumbsdown]. 

Although it would be fun to watch  [popcorn].
Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: Mojo S2R on September 28, 2010, 03:26:45 AM
Scoot over.  I want to see this too.   [popcorn]

btw - what the heck is  [thumbsdown].  Nevermind just found out it's thumbsdown.  Just not as obvious as the thumbsup emoticon to me.
Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: Raux on September 28, 2010, 08:57:26 AM
no it won't fit,

BUT i bet a lot fo people running no-termi's would be interested in buying it. as long as it's priced less than the current reflash solutions.
Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: ungeheuer on September 28, 2010, 11:46:53 AM
It wont fit  ??? ??  I'm pretty sure it will fit  [thumbsup].

It just wont work.  Very much.  At all  [thumbsdown].   
Hell, maybe I'm wrong... it might do something.... but I doubt any good would come of it [popcorn].

It would be interesting to know if it could be reflashed as an M796 ECU though.......   If it were mine, I'd be investigating that possibility.... 






Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: jfgducat on September 28, 2010, 11:51:46 AM
ok

i will be returning my 696 dp ecu and waiting on my 796 dp ecu they wont be out until a month or so.


its never been used so there just swapping it.

Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: Amlethae on September 28, 2010, 01:17:13 PM
For the sake of boredom and killing some time before work, I'll make a prediction:

Assuming that the 796 doesn't reject the 696 ECU like a liver transplant from an alcoholic, the mapping would (in my guestimation) make the 796 run decisively lean.  The fueling map for the 696 (DP or not) would be telling the injectors to fire at a rate which aims for a 14.7 (or other) AFR based on a smaller cylinder size than the 796 engine.  Because the displacement is different, the injectors wouldn't be firing enough fuel into the cylinder vs the air being sucked in.  The O2 sensors MIGHT correct the fueling map enough to reach the desired AFRs but that depends on programmed tolerances -- which at the moment we have not been able to view the ECU programming.  And even if they did, they would only do so in closed loop; when you get to open loop you're talking serious damage potential.  So... dangerous at best even if it takes it.   
Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: renanmedeiros on September 29, 2010, 10:28:03 AM
If the Kit is in good shape you already have one buyer! Im looking for the termi full exhaust + filter + ecu. Anyone?
Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: ChrisH on October 03, 2010, 12:21:48 AM
The ecu's are physically different between the 2 as far as I have seen in pictures, so not sure if it would even plug in.
Title: Re: 696 DP ecu in M796 good or bad ?
Post by: junior varsity on October 03, 2010, 09:55:49 AM
please do not put the wrong ecu in a bike.

sell that sucka on eBay. lots of folks are interested in a genuine DP ecu over a reflashed one.