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Title: 525 to 520
Post by: scduc on October 01, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
Whats all involved with this conversion? is it simple swap front and rear sprocket and chain, or is there shiming to get alignment proper? I've got 10k+ on stockers and figure that if I replace the chain, might as well replace the sprockets. And I might as well replace the cush drives as well.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: monsta on October 01, 2010, 05:47:07 PM
why do you want to do that? the 525 is a stronger chain..
10k miles on a chain isn't a lot, is it knackered?


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: He Man on October 01, 2010, 09:25:38 PM
why do you want to do that? the 525 is a stronger chain..
10k miles on a chain isn't a lot, is it knackered?

+1, a smaller chain will wear faster. Unless ur racing the bike where every ounce matters, a 525 would last longer if you take care of it. If you let it rust then 520 is cheaper overall and ud replace it sooner than later anyway.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: caperix on October 02, 2010, 06:13:12 AM
I have to disagree with the other posters, a good 520 chain is stronger than the factory 525 on your bike.  I don't think the wieght difference is very much between the 2 chains, but a little bit per link over 100 + links does add up.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: He Man on October 02, 2010, 07:03:08 AM
But hes replacing the chain isnt he? A good 525 chain is better than a good 520 chain. You dont get more tensile strength with a 525, you just spread the load over a larger surface. Or atleast thats what i remember reading i could be way off.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: ducpainter on October 02, 2010, 04:23:08 PM
But hes replacing the chain isnt he? A good 525 chain is better than a good 520 chain. You dont get more tensile strength with a 525, you just spread the load over a larger surface. Or atleast thats what i remember reading i could be way off.
You are not off.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: DarkStaR on October 02, 2010, 04:58:29 PM
Whats all involved with this conversion? is it simple swap front and rear sprocket and chain, or is there shiming to get alignment proper? I've got 10k+ on stockers and figure that if I replace the chain, might as well replace the sprockets. And I might as well replace the cush drives as well.

I'd run a good 520 with steel sprockets on a 2v 1k with out thinking twice, but that's me.  It "should" all line up as normal after...should


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: junior varsity on October 04, 2010, 03:13:09 PM
I have to disagree with the other posters, a good 520 chain is stronger than the factory 525 on your bike.  I don't think the wieght difference is very much between the 2 chains, but a little bit per link over 100 + links does add up.

520 conversion is pretty common - its a lighter chain and the "good ones", like an ERV3 are strong as heck. I've run the 520 setup on my bike for more than 12k miles with no issues.  I'm more likely to change for gearing reasons than for wear reasons.

the conversion is easy: Front Sprocket in 520, Rear Sprocket in 520, Chain in 520. Pick odd number sprockets for longest life - you can run a 15T front sprocket, and go up 2-3 teeth on the rear sprocket to make it like a stock setup with a 14T front sprocket. Its like bacon for your bike.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 05, 2010, 09:46:35 AM
Pick odd number sprockets for longest life
???  ??? Could you explain that? Or just link to an explanation, that's the first time I've heard of it, thanks!


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: battlecry on October 05, 2010, 10:28:51 AM
If you have your sprockets picked as whole multiple ratios, like say 14/42 or 15/45, a bad link will periodically hit the same sprocket location.    A sprocket ratio like 15/46 would even out the wear.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 05, 2010, 10:37:26 AM
If you have your sprockets picked as whole multiple ratios, like say 14/42 or 15/45, a bad link will periodically hit the same sprocket location.    A sprocket ratio like 15/46 would even out the wear.
Thanks, that makes sense! I thought he meant that 15/39 or 15/41 were better than 14/40 or 14/42 (numbers just to illustrate the example), and I was somewhat confused (not unusual  ??? :-[).


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: Speeddog on October 05, 2010, 10:58:08 AM
Odd number teeth sprockets will have the wear from the chain sideplates spread over all of the teeth, instead of just half the teeth.

Also, they tend to not suffer from odd vibration.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: junior varsity on October 05, 2010, 10:59:59 AM
what Speed said


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: ducatiz on October 05, 2010, 12:33:11 PM
I can see replacing a 530 with a 520, that's what I did on my Alazzurra with 650cc, but moving from a 525 to 520 on a 800-900+cc engine.. I can't see the advantage.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: battlecry on October 05, 2010, 01:06:07 PM
My 800 has a 520 and is close in hp to the 900.  EK rates their 520 SuperSport chains to 100hp, 525 to 130hp.  What's that old saying, "Lighter, Faster, Cheaper"?   Get all three with a 520, IMHO.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: Speeddog on October 05, 2010, 01:19:59 PM
Yes, 520 is lighter and cheaper.

It also wears out faster.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: scduc on October 05, 2010, 04:37:11 PM
I guess the main reason is for the bling factor. I know I should get 20k easy on the stocker, but I'd like a better looking rear sprocket, carrier and hub. And while I'm doing that, might as well go for the lighter/cheaper option if not much strength and durability are sacrificed.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: He Man on October 05, 2010, 09:53:08 PM
If you dont really take care of your chain and arent particularly harsh on your bike, im sure a 520 will do fine. i put 19k on the stock chain, lots of commuting. semi aggressive.


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: ducatiz on October 06, 2010, 02:58:12 AM
Is that including submersion in garbage?


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: stopintime on October 06, 2010, 05:50:56 AM
Is that including submersion in garbage?

Not garbage - lubricating chicken grease. That's why his chain lasted so long [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: ducatiz on October 06, 2010, 06:07:36 AM
Ai ya!  Mei gwan xi, Kui!


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: scduc on October 06, 2010, 02:49:42 PM
If you dont really take care of your chain and arent particularly harsh on your bike, im sure a 520 will do fine. i put 19k on the stock chain, lots of commuting. semi aggressive.
You mean if I do take care of   Yes???


Title: Re: 525 to 520
Post by: Duc796canada on October 08, 2010, 06:24:02 PM
Hmm! I learnt something, so if I replace my rear 39 tooth with a 41 tooth at my 600mi service, no need to change out the chain. I mean if a chain can last 10 t0 12k miles, 600 miles is a piss in the pond! Now, question is cush drives will the stock ones fit a new carrier? I'm going to go with a quick change combo(sprocket and carrier), thanks and sorry for jacking the thread:)


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