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I tried to relash ECU of my M1100S, but although it appears to have disabled the exhaust flapper valve, I still have the same rev limit, even though the map should have set it to 9500rpm.
It also only took about 2m, but the manual (German!) appears to indicate it should take about 25. Also, when I connect to PC, I get a 'Read Access Violation' error message when I click link.

I've obviously contacted Christian, but would would love to hear from those (Ung, DuKnaked) who've used this..... :)

Having given Christian massive kudos for his absolutely awesome initial assistance..... I'm make the beast with two backsing pissed off with having waited three make the beast with two backsing weeks to not get any answer from him regarding my reflash glitch - not major, but nevertheless it still deserves some attention to rectify.... or even some response other than "I'm very busy".  We're all very make the beast with two backsing busy.  But those who neglect the customers who pay them will soon find themselves not so very make the beast with two backsing busy anymore.  End rant.

Two minutes to do the reflash?  That sounds about right..... maybe 2 1/2 minutes... its pretty quick.  The 25 minutes they refer to is the Rexxer uploading the stock mapping before it then loads the reflash.... and as we know... this initial stock map backup feature does not function with Siemens ECUs.

Hmmm "read access violation"?  Not seen that.....  how do you revert back to the stock mapping????  

You said in another post that your "welcome" screen changed after your reflash... and you've confirmed that the ECU no longer looks for the exhaust servo.... so it seems to me that your reflash has worked alright. On complettion of the reflash, did your Rexxer display a screen like this? 

(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac51/rllout/rexxer011.jpg)

The unchanged rev limit is most likely due to Rexxer.... forgetting.... to include the raised limit in the tuning mapping you ordered.  

Just out of interest, did your Rexxer reflash include deleting the closed loop?

I'm afraid your only solution is having Christian rectify these issues for you.  Stay on his case!  I'll be ramping up the heat on him pretty soon too.  Keep us posted.

Hey Unge,
Thanks for the super-quick response. Yes, I believe it probably did the reflash ok, and it may be just the limit wasn't set in the new map.
However, it's a bigger concern that as I can't get the link function to work, I can't either revert to stock map, or reload a new, corrected map, so I'm stuck with what I've got for now  :(
I haven't had a test ride yet, so don't know how its affected performance / respone.

 With regard to 'deleting the closed loop' is this something I should have explicity requested in the map?

cheers.

Agreed. This is a serious omission - you paid for a device which would "save" the stock mapping so that you could revert back to it if need be.  Since for Siemens ECUs the Rexxer will NOT automatically do the stock mapping back-up prior to sending the "tuning" map reflash, Rexxer's work-around seems to be to email you a copy of your stock mapping so that you can reload it to the Rexxer via their software package, and from there reflash your ECU back to stock.  Did they email you the stock mapping?  So.... to get what you paid for.... you do have to be able to "link" to the Rexxer device via their application.  I've done this flash-unflash-reflash several times, so I know it works.  You loaded the USB driver for the Rexxer device correctly (its not entirely plug-n-play)??  See DucNaked's tutorial here >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=42608.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=42608.0)

Only if that was your aim.  For me that was the primary reason for reflashing.  What was your motivation for reflashing your ECU?

Good news!

After downloading the latest version of the s/w from the Rexxer site, the Link function now works, so I've saved the copy of the map they created. I've also got a copy of the orig map I asked them to send. This at least means I can either revert to orig, or upload a modified version when they mail it out.

The main purpose of the remap was to:

a) remove flapper valve
b) increase rev limit to 9500rpm
c) delete closed loop to allow future 'flexibility' (PCV)
d) remove lambda sensors

I also have some of the same problems Ung & mickb are having. And I have also been busy and still haven't got the stock map that was emailed to me loaded onto the Unit. The re-flash worked great with the pre loaded map closed loop in place. I was emailed the map for removing the closed loop system but after hearing Ung's problem I want to wait to see what happens. My question for you guys is if I download the emailed maps to the Unit will I loose the map that was pre-loaded on the Unit ? I still have not yet got the usb drive located for the unit so I can't connect unit to computer for down loading maps to it anyway but I don't want to loose the map I'm running now. I was planning on getting the usb drive working today.
 Thanks

ok back from Intermot

Christian had already jumped ship, but talked to the guy from Italy there. I explained to him the situation and he knew the two cases of you guys.

I also explained that Christian has been abit remiss in getting back to you and that's not good customer service. With the Protune now available, he needs to have better CS or lose customers to Protune, WHICH will do the exact same thing with the exact same results as the Rexxer. PM me and I'll tell you why.

The actual producer will be getting a call from the guy I spoke to.

The producer is in Italy, Christian is based in Germany. So you are going third party talking to Christian as far as problem solving. The units are produced in Turin, Italy.

bonus for me: They invited me to come down and tune for a custom map when I change the exhausts and airbox.

So Protune and Rexxer are produced in the same place is what it sounds like.  Who does the actual production / do they sell direct products, or is it all through another party.

Should be interesting to see where this goes. I'm waiting to see the outcome before committing to a rexxer or the like, but am very interested in the possibilities.  Wish they had a tune facility here!

no comment ;) and no they don't
i think from what i saw, they are aware of the problem and desire to fix it, question is how soon. IMO I expect something this week after talking to him. I emphasized the forum is VERY interested in the product and very interested in the lack of communication by Christian as of late.

on their radar.

Protune and Rexxer are the exact same hardware.

Yes, you should have him email you both maps you purchased.

I'm still very happy with my purchase. My bike is running better than it ever did.
I still would like to know if the closed loop portion actually gone or just fattened up in that range. My hope is that it is, and the ecu is just expecting some sort of input from the sensors which results in these quick errors.

those errors are what I explained to the guy today.

I used your guys' feedback on here for information.

I also will be sending the forum links for the problems to him.

Thanks, He only emailed me 2 maps stock map & no closed loop map. But my main problem is right now is the usb driver will not load so I have no acess to any map except the one that was pre-loaded. I've tried everything I know, when searching my computer for the C:/Daniele-Moto folder it opens up what came on the CD and there is no usb driver to be found ?? I'm pretty frustated at this point and am waiting for Christain to get back to me.

But otherwise I am very very happy the way the bike is running now. It's also good to know that ProTune is the same as Rexxer

The hardware is the same. I believe they have proprietary software respective to each brand and develope maps independantly.

^^ This is also my understanding.

Thanks Raux for taking the trouble to go into bat for us [thumbsup]. I really appreciate your effort to get these issues progressed for us  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]. 

Was the guy you spoke to.....  Marco Daniele??

Understood.  The hardware for both Rexxer and Protune is identical.  But my understanding is that Rexxer in Germany develop their own software and adapt mapping in-house based on work from Termi and Zard.  Not so?

Thanks again Raux  [beer]

Thanks to all, esp Raux & Unge for their advice & assistance  [thumbsup]

I contacted Joe @ Spareshack today who promised to get in touch with Christian 1st thing tomorrow, when he returns from the show. With multiple prompting from various angles, maybe we'll get some movement here  :)

Hey.... DucNaked helped too  [thumbsup]  (Its DN's tutorial thread that I pointed you towards!).

Hopefully we'll be hearing from somebody at Rexxer soon.....

Not to beat a dead horse but..........I think that enough time has gone by with no response from Rexxer, even if they don't have a fix for my problem they should step up & respond to the emails. Has any one heard from Rexxer in the last week or so ? I'm not sure how long to give them. I'm more than happy with the re flash but I paid for the Unit which dose not work due to it being incompatible with my PC which is running 64 bit windows vista. So I'll send them another email after this rant & see what happens. Christian seems like a good guy so I'm willing to cut him slack.

I agree.  And its a pity coz Christian does seem like a genuinely good bloke. 

But my patience just ran out.

So now lets see what they have to say.

When $'s are involved you shouldn't need to be patient. If someone trusts my work enough to part with their hard earned dollar, the least I can do is what they ask of me.

Since when has "busy" been an excuse for poor service? 

Just spoke to Marco on the phone.

He just returned last night from Koln. He has spoken to the engineer and they are tracking down the problem with the lambda sensor.

The Windows 64 problem they are aware of and are also trying to work a solution.

He also will be calling Christian to respond to you guys as soon as possible.

Just had a response from Christian, and they've sent me a new map, so I'll re-do the flash tonight hopefully!
Not sure if they've made any progress on the sensor error messages, I asked if the lambda input had been disabled and he confirmed, but I'll need to disconnect to verify.

Anyone know where they're plugged in, is it easy to get to?

Again, thanks to all (DucNaked included  [thumbsup]) for your advice & assistance.

Hi Guys!

I want to introduce myself, I'm "Chris" or as others call me "Christian" from RexXer ECU Tuning.

First of all I will say sorry especially to Steve (Ungeheuer) because he is now waiting a couple of weeks for the solution of his problem and we have not fixed it till yet. Also I will say sorry that I was not able to support and inform you like the beginning of our business relation! This is not a matter of "I have sold the device - now my work is done" because our company is also noted for a very good support after selling a product, since over 25 years now! The problem was in the last weeks we all were very very busy to planning the ferry Intermot in cologne where we also act as an exhibitor so the last few weeks where horror, if I’ll be honest! In the week before Intermot (cw 39) I promised to Steve I will see to it and of course I have forwarded his problem to our technician in Italy. But to resolve this problem we need some time because it's not so easy as I found out now. But don't worry we'll fix this problem, I'm sure!!! By the way, as I have read right your bike is running and that is what matters...the rest is a blemish and we'll fix it!!! Hope I can reassure the minds.

Again officially thanks to Steve (Ungeheuer) and John (DucNaked) for their very very good support of the RexXer to the others…I have written everything, hats off ;-)
 
And thank you to Raux for updating the people but you have met Marco Daniele,
it was not me ;-) He had got up to get to know each other!

For all others, please feel free to contact me if you have any questions about the RexXer – I will do my best to answer you in a intelligible English – as good as I can ;-) Now I’m back in the office and I’m able to answer soon!

Once more about the problem with the “sensor error messages” – I can confirm that we have delete the co-function in the Mapping so the plugs doesn’t works any more the only think which comes up as Steve has explained to me is the sensor error massage in the cockpit for some ranges. This is only a blemish and that affects nothing! So “mickb” it’s possible that you will get the same problem by using the new mapping so you are forewarned, but no worry we’ll working on the solution as I have written before and after this the sensor error messages keep still and everything hopefully works as we need it!

About the 64 bit version…we are checking if we can provide a driver for this versions too but it not depends on our software rather on the producer of the drivers…we don’t create them by our own! We just buy them. But I will keep you all update via this fourm!

Cheers Chris

Chris

thanks. Yes I had missed you at Intermot. I was there Sunday morning. took me a bit to find your location.

glad the links found their way to you.

Raux

Hi Raux,

your right I was missing on sunday ;-) My only day to relax a little bit befor the big rush on monday...but I hope we'll met next time. Marco forward me your mail but this was not the reason for my posting but it has confirmed me that I have to update the people, of coures..and today I have taken time for it!

Will show that I take the matter seriously and we are working.

Chris

Hi Chris,

 You found us!! Thanks for taking the time to come on here and updating everyone on what's going on. Thanks for your continued support.
 And my bike is running great by the way.  [thumbsup]

As if by magic  ;).

Nice to hear from you Chris  [thumbsup].

no but my guilty  [bow_down]  ;)

Hi @ all! I want to make an update.

Unfortunately not for the CO problem but for the USB driver. Now we have the right one to use for al 64 bit versions!!! I will make an update in the week 45 if I have recieved the new software, the driver will be include..next week I wil be in Milan on the EICMA. You can find the update on our website www.rexxer.eu (http://) then, you have to look into the box "Downloads".

For the CO problem we are still working on it, I will inform all here if we have resolved it.

Is anyone at the EICMA next week? You will find me in hall 6, stand 27.

Cheers Chris

Thanks for the update Chris  [thumbsup]


 

Hi!

Just a new update because I'll be out of office from tomorrow till end of next week I need some days to clean up my private rooms now...1 week Intermot Cologne, 1 week EICMA Milan and office 10 hours per day [thumbsup] the man who builds the new software for the 64 bit version returns tomorrow in the company, he was out for the Las Vegas car show. This is the reason why I haven't add anything. But i will be available also in my hollifday and if I reveive the new update I will post it!!!

About the CO problem...good news! Now we work together with an expert which has connections to some guys from Continental (they build the ECUs)..he'll get the info where the addresses for the lamda are and how to eliminate it
durable. At the weekend he will get a M1100 and starts working...so if everything goes as it should we'll be able to make the update in no longer than 2 weeks.

Once more sorry for the delay and the long time but to elimintate this problem is not so easy as it maybe sounds..it's very very difficult! That's the reason...please have more patience.

Cheers Chris

Thanks for the update  [thumbsup]

Many of us are waiting for this resolution to make their purchase (myself included)

Sounds promising  [thumbsup].  When we're kept in the loop (hahaha bad pun) and understand the reasons, then the delay is tolerable.  Thanks for the good communication during your work to resolve this issue.

sweet.  Just ordered today, Chris, thanks for all the time you put into answering my questions, and getting me setup!

I have a spare ecu I plan to Flash this onto.  It was off another 1100 (not mine).  Is there any key mating that needs to occur, or are these pretty much plug and play?

No key mating. There are no "red keys" on siemens bikes, just a "red card."

Should be plug and play.

what i meant was more, do i need to input the key code, or just plug it in, flash and go.

key code is not with me.  (bike, me, and code-card) all reside at different addresses.

Not sure on that one. Raux will know, he has 2 ecu's and has used both.

had no issues.

think the key is coded to the dash?

Just plug in the ECU, flash and you're good to go.

If it was me though, I'd swap the ECU then test before I flashed it, just to make sure this new-to-you ECU functions correctly... and then once that's confirmed I'd flash away  [thumbsup].

Good Morning  [coffee]

Tatata...here you can donwload the newest version of the RexXer software which is compatible also for the Windows 7, 64 bit version:
http://www.rexxer.eu/downloads/rexxer_console_3.80.zip (http://www.rexxer.eu/downloads/rexxer_console_3.80.zip)

 [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Cheers Chris

Thanks Chris,  I downloaded it & it works perfectly !

Hi @ all!

First thx to Link for the feedback, that's the way it should be for the software!!!

As I have written to Steve today, next week we'll have a RexXer workshop and I will meet our Tuner and the new specialist which ist working on the M1100, I will ask them how far it is with the CO function and will keep you update next week!

There is a problem for the service reset, as Steve and Matt written to me! It's not possible to make it for the Siemens ECU at this time and they are right, I have checked and spoken to our engineer and he is working to resolve this problem! For the middle of December a new update will be available that allows you to make the service reset with the RexXer aslo for this ECU!!!

As I have written to Steve, unfortunately such modifications takes a lot of time to program and we have access
to this ECU roughly only half a year and this is very short for the development, thats the reason why not all of the function are available immediately. The Siemens ECU is totally different to the Marellis, for the Marellis we can do everything we want to do because we have a couple of years to work and had enough time to do everything asufindig, I hope this will be the same for the Siemens soon  [thumbsup]

Cheers Chris

No worries Chris.  Thanks for keeping us up to date.

Hi @ all!

I'm back in the office, our RexXer course was very good and successfully.
I have also learned some new things by my own  [thumbsup]

Ok I have a short new update for you all about the elimination of the O2 sensors.
We have found a new (3rd) address where the O2 sensor is also located.
We know that there are 4 addresses in the map we have to elimated.
Our technician is now working to find out this last address.

At the beginning of next week we'll get a M1100 for the test run.

I hope that it will not take so long. Most of the work is done now and we are nearing completion.

By the way, maybe some of you guys have one too,
we have also detected the speed limiter for the new Triumph Rocket 3 and we are able to remove it now!
So it will not longer runs 180 km/h...now it runs open end  [clap] Just for information...please share it with your friends.
In know this is a "Monster" forum  [beer]

Cheers Chris

Thanks Chris....
I'm eagerly awaiting.  [popcorn]

Chris,

If you want my 696 with stock and DP ECU for some tests at your shop let me know. I'm in Kaiserslautern.

Raux

Now that ^^ is an offer too good to refuse  [clap].  Some mutual benefit on offer here  [thumbsup].  Whaddya say Chris?

Hi Chris,
Thanks for keeping us all in the picture, its good to hear what's going on. From my perspective, it would also be useful if you can get to the bottom of why the reset of the rev limiter (from 8250 to 9500) only applies when the bike is in gear, and is still set to the original value when in neutral?

cheers,
Mick

I have NOT noticed this issue.  My limiter is not reset at neutral, it's raised across the board.

Thanks Matt, that's good to know. Would be interested from the others using the Rexxer whether they experience a similar issue, or whether it's a flaw in my specific map?

Just curious as to why it would be useful to have the rpm limit at 9500 rpm's in neutral ?
 Thanks

Me either.  Why would you want to rev it to the limiter... in neutral?

+1

Hi,
Its not a big deal, it was just an easy way of checking whether the map changes had been applied or not. Admittedly, it's much more important to see whether it's ok while in gear...

Only four more days until I can reset the service indicator  ;D.

Happy Middle of December everybody  [beer].












 [popcorn]

I guess Rexxer hasn't got it sorted out yet. But for anyone who is using Rexxer and wants complete open loop no o2 sensors and no error codes I found a guy in the US that can fix that problem and for those who are planning on a reflash or PCV for the 696/1100 I would talk to these guy's first as they seem to have completely figured out the Semiens ECU. Let me know if you want this guy's contact info. I found the guy while trying to get the new Multistrada 1200 tuned. He has already cracked the Multi's ECU and is selling a PCV kit that allows complete open loop/no o2 sensors & A/F ratio tuning from idle to redline and from what I've heard the Multi's ECU is much more complicated then the 696/1100. I know Rexxer has been working on the Multi also but to date I haven't seen anything from them. Another plus for us guys in the US is His shop is on the East coast. I'm not banging Rexxer I'm happy with the product. But I'd thought since there is another option out there I'd share with you. 

We are working as the West Coast sales point for David's specially setup Power Commanders (he is handling sales on the East Coast). We can supply PCVs for every current Ducati including the 696/1100 as well as the MTS1200. All with full open loop maps! We are putting together packages with Arrow and ZARD exhaust systems with these PCV kits as well - so there is a savings by getting a package deal.

I just sent him an Arrow full system and he is finishing up the map for it tomorrow for the MTS 1200... if anyone needs a map for a specific exhaust we can do it no problem!

for the computer changes he is doing... how much?

I'm assuming: closed loop elimination, RPM limiter change and DP map? or is there something more?

Was this question for me? If so, he is making complete custom maps for each exhaust system and any other setup that need be. No DP maps as he is using a PCV. So yes, open loop, can change RPM limiter if need, custom fuel map and custom ignition map.

The MTS1200 PCV is $499 as it has a custom setup to eliminate the O2 sensors as the MTS ECU is more complex than Marelli and Siemens. I'll have to get the pricing on the Monster kits from David as we've only been working with him on the MTS kits thus far since there are other alternatives for all Ducati models besides the MTS1200! Now we have our cable to flash the Siemens ECUs with Rexxer maps. We charge $249 for that: http://www.mota-lab.com/ducati-ecu-reflash-p-463.html (http://www.mota-lab.com/ducati-ecu-reflash-p-463.html)

Here is a bit of info on what he does on these custom PCVs: http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=738 (http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=738)

I'll have the Monster kits up and available at the start of the week.

Rexxer still doesnt have the service reset feature sorted out  :(.  Chris from Rexxer said that they'd have the service reset function.... um.... functioning "by the middle of December".  Although he didnt actually say by which December.  Chris? 

How does a PCV eliminate the Siemens ECU's closed loop??

Maybe, but "seem" is the operative word there.  Talk is easy, Rexxer too believed they had it right but have discovered its not so easy to crack as first thought.  But they have not walked away from the challenge and whilst they have not had much to say about their progress, some progress there has been.  I guess they dont want to announce anything until its certain that they have it right.

Rexxer is very close to having the o2 error issue figured out.  Chris has been sending me modified versions for testing and I no longer get any check engine light..... just a little more fine tuning and I think they'll be able to announce that its completely sorted.  I have no affiliation with Rexxer and as you all know I have been critical of em in the past..... but I have to say that they have been extremely busy in the background working to fix the o2 error code issue.  When they finally get there (as I'm confident they will) it will be tried, tested and proven.  By me (and others too, so I'm told)  ;D.

We are working as the West Coast sales point for David's specially setup Power Commanders (he is handling sales on the East Coast). We can supply PCVs for every current Ducati including the 696/1100 as well as the MTS1200. All with full open loop maps! 

How does a PCV eliminate the Siemens ECU's closed loop??
 
It can't, I believe you need to send him your Siemens ECU He has cracked the Siemens ECU and will program them out this is for the 696/1100. His kit for the Multi is complete plug & play the way He did it on the Multi is by tricking the temp sensor to think it's 28 degrees all the time so the o2 sensors never come on you can leave hooked up or remove them from the bike so complete open loop, some part He sends with kit does this.


Quote from: Link on Yesterday at 05:54:18 PM
...for anyone who is using Rexxer and wants complete open loop no o2 sensors and no error codes I found a guy in the US that can fix that problem and for those who are planning on a reflash or PCV for the 696/1100 I would talk to these guy's first as they seem to have completely figured out the Semiens ECU.

Maybe, but "seem" is the operative word there.  Talk is easy, Rexxer too believed they had it right but have discovered its not so easy to crack as first thought.  But they have not walked away from the challenge and whilst they have not had much to say about their progress, some progress there has been.  I guess they dont want to announce anything until its certain that they have it right.


I agree, and I haven't used his product yet. but I know his PCV works on the Multi as I posted. I have some correspondence with Him and the guy "seems" very honest and has been in the racing community for years it turns out we have a mutual friend in the business so I highly doubt He is BS. I just posted up to let people know there is now another option for the 696/1100. I can only suggest guys  contact Him and talk it through to make sure your getting what you want as having complete control over your ECU mapping with a PCV IMO is the best option there is. I'm done with the 696 and still real happy with the Rexxer mapping. So it would be nice to have someone with a 696/1100 try this guy out & post up results.

Oops, sorry - that is only for flashed maps, not the PCV maps!

....Kinda figured that  ;).  And you're using Rexxer hardware/mapping for your Siemens ECU reflash service or something new?

Still confused here.  He is making custom PCV maps for each exhaust system, but also reflashing the Siemens ECU to delete closed loop?

I am in no way calling BS on your guys ECU reflash option either.  Just saying that until I've seen evidence that it ticks all the boxes I'd prefer to reserve judgement.  Has he tested on Siemens ECU bikes and confirmed that the ECU does not flag any error messages when the Lambdas are disconnected/removed?  See the reason why I am so particular on this issue is that Rexxer were also confident that their reflash deleted the open loop entirely too..... and eventually it will, but not without a lot more mucking around than was first suggested.  So anyway.... rather than completely reflashing the ECU... it seems that your guys method is to trick the ECU into not referencing the o2 sensors thus allowing his (or anybody's for that matter) PCV mapping to be effective across the entire range? 

And FWIW I dont agree with you regarding having a reflashed ECU + PCV as being the best option (even though this is the option I myself chose to run), its only second best.  IMO the best option would be to have your ECU flashed with custom mapping perfectly tailored to your requirements/bike without the need for any piggy-back device making after-the-fact corrections.  Trouble is its difficult to arrive at that "perfect" map without an easily reprogrammable add-on device like a PCV.

Hey Desmoworks!
I've attempted sending you emails and PMs. I'm afraid they're not getting through. Let me know!

Thanks!

The latest mapping I received from Rexxer fixed the o2 error issue  ;D.   No more "lambda slow response" errors and no more accompanying CEL [thumbsup].  Me happy, thanks Chris [beer].

Now... just need to be able to reset my "service due" indicator and the Rexxer will finally be everything it promised to be in the beginning  [popcorn]............

Its been a long process.

You are right..."a long process" but "Good things take time"  as I have explained several times...[thumbsup]
About the update for the reset of the error codes...I know you are waiting for us once again but it's not so easy as we thougt...so it will takes a litte time longer but I promise it will comes! The same as the complete elimination of the O2 sensors...it takes time but in the end all will be well  [clap]

I will keep update you all if I have any news! Rome was not built in one day  [moto]

Cheers Chris

PS: If everybody has already installed a RexXer Mapping without completly eliminated O2 sensors but ordered this service, please contact me directly via mail (cs@daniele-moto.de), I will provide relief.

Warten, warten, immer noch warten  [roll]. 

Are we there yet?  My friends keep laughing at the spanner icon on my display  :P.

 [popcorn]

Are they laughing at you because of the spanner icon....or because your avatar looks like Dr Zachary Smith?

Are they laughing at the spanner on the dash,  or the spanner riding the bike?

:-*

Many months have now elapsed since buying my Rexxer unit.  Whilst the issues with deleting the 02 sensors were eventually dealt with, Rexxer users continue to wait for the release of a firmware update which allows the Rexxer unit to reset the bike's "service due" indicator.  

When I (and others) bought the unit we were assured this feature was functional. (Although there's no way to know until you attempt - and fail - to reset your service indicator when it's displayed).

When I (and others) pointed out to Rexxer that the service reset feature DOES NOT function we were told it would be fixed.  By mid-December 2010.  Then when that time frame came and went we were told "these things take time....."

Well I'm frankly sick of waiting. I urge anybody who has purchased a Rexxer unit to contact either Chris Schimmelschmidt or Marco Daniele directly and demand that they reslove this.

And whilst we continue to wait...... I notice their website continues to claim the Rexxer unit is able to reset the service alarm for Siemens equipped Ducatis >>  http://www.rexxer.eu/e_rexxer.cfm (http://www.rexxer.eu/e_rexxer.cfm)  <<  At this time, any such claim continues to be absolutely FALSE.

And whilst we continue to wait...... I notice their website continues to claim the Rexxer unit is able to reset the service alarm for Siemens equipped Ducatis >>  http://www.rexxer.eu/e_rexxer.cfm (http://www.rexxer.eu/e_rexxer.cfm)  <<  At this time, any such claim continues to be absolutely FALSE.





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Looks the wait is over I received an email today from Christan that say's they have fixed the problem and the up dated version can be downloaded from there web site in a few days. So let's hope it works.

It doesnt work.

Rexxer still has not addressed the Service Reset issue.  Months since a resolution was promised and still no progress.  Chris - with the best of intentions - has sent me a number of updated versions of the Rexxer software application, each with the claim that the Service Reset issue was resolved.  And each time = FAIL.  Unless I'm missing something....  a re-jigged version of the software which uploads your mapping to the ECU is never gonna resolve the issue.  Whats required is modified FIRMWARE for the Rexxer device itself, no?

And for any such firmware update..... yes you guessed it.... WE STILL WAIT.  

How can it be that make the beast with two backsing difficult?  Or maybe they're just hoping that we'll get tired of waiting and just go away.

If anybody else would also like their Rexxer device to do everything that was claimed it would do then I suggest you make contact directly:

Marco Daniele (md@daniele-moto.de) and/or Chris Schimmelschmidt (cs@daniele-moto.de)

 [popcorn]

Your 100% correct I got the updates & it still won't work & I have gotten no response to my last email I sent to Chris it's been more then few weeks. Like you said Chris seems to have good intentions but one would think they would test there updates & realize they don't work prior to telling us "we fixed it, here you go"  I have fallen into your last category "tired of waiting"  Looking back I would have been better off with just the reflash & I still recommend there reflash as the mapping is great.

Agree with both of you. It doesn't affect me at the moment, but if you pay for something which doesn't materialise, that's not a good place to be  [thumbsdown]

Link,
Can you tell me what type of map you've got?  I'm running with boom tubes, and the DP ecu, and my map was designed for termi slip-ons, so would be curious to know what your config & map are?

mickb, I have 2 maps one is open loop which I haven't used, the bike runs so good now & I'm done spending money on the mapping for while & I don't think the open loop map would make that much diff on it unless I went PCV & dyno tune. The map I'm using was described to me by Christian as "much better then the DP ecu map" basically the map raised the rpm limit allowed for slip ons' & hi flow air filter I haven't run the DP map so I can't compare but I do know the bike runs fantastic. Also some of the Rexxer probs. I have are due to me using a 64 bit system, Rexxer was designed for 32 bit software Rexxer did get part of that sorted out but my Rexxer User unit still doesn't preform real well interfaced with my computer. That's another reason I'm grown "tired of waiting"       

NEWBIE HERE - trying to understand this Rexxer thing.

Do I understand correctly that they are selling an ECU interface tool that can

upload new/custom maps

and

function as a scan tool?


Or alternately you can send them your ECU and they'll just reflash it (for less $$ than buying the unit)?

Correct. 

But only available from an oversees supplier and there is some question as to uh, how well it is being supported?

I have no intention of remapping the ECM (unless the stock mapping proves troublesome).

HOWEVER - $500 give or take for a tool that allows me to RESET THE SERVICE LIGHT, ACCES THE ECU AND REMAP if needed - sounds pretty good.

If it's missing the reset, it's incomplete and I have no interest.

So someone keep me posted and I'll be happy to spend some bucks if it gets sorted.

Its fixed.  Finally  ;D.

At last Rexxer have been able to prod their Italian developers into coming up with the goods.

Your Rexxer device will now do all that it should've done from day one.  Shit happens and I have to say that despite my obvious frustration, Chris Schimmelschmidt kept his word and finally delivered - just as he always promised he would.

Its been a long time coming but here at very long last is the latest Rexxer console version which includes the required firmware update allowing your Rexxer device to also reset your "service due" indicator  >>  Rexxer Console F/W Update V3.88 (http://www.rexxer.eu/downloads/rexxer_console_3.88.zip)

I have uploaded this update to my Rexxer device and tested its functionality on my own M1100.  

And... I can now without any reservation recommend this piece of hardware for anybody wishing to reflash their Siemens ECU, read and/or reset logged error codes, and also as a service reset tool  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

great to hear everything is worked out

 [thumbsup]

Most companies would never have delivered on the promises Chris made. I'm impressed.

can the user kit reset the tps as well?

Not necessary on the 696/796/1100.

It is automatically reset.

Technically yes.  Don't plug anything in.  Turn key on.  TPS is reset.  Want to do it again?  Turn off, and back on.

Web site says it's 64 bit compatible but I can not get the new 3.88 version to load (old version worked fine on this computer) The computer says "destination file can not be created"  if any one has any ideas how to fix this let me know.
 Thanks

get it to load in 32-bit compatible mode.

The computer I'm using has a 64 bit system & when I click on the file I get that "destination" message. Is there a way to switch a 64 bit op system to 32 bits ?
 Thanks

No.

You can try right clicking and attempting to run in compatibility mode on vista/win7.

If this fails, you are shit out of luck.

So, if I get it right, the software only runs on 32bit?

Nope.  That is not correct. 

I just downloaded Rexxer Console v3.88 to my 64bit Win7 PC (using the same link as posted earlier.... but here it is again >>  http://www.rexxer.eu/downloads/rexxer_console_3.88.zip (http://www.rexxer.eu/downloads/rexxer_console_3.88.zip) ) and it works fine.

Dunno why Link was having trouble, but I got no issues 32 or 64 bit.

my rexxer software is fine on my 64 bit laptop.

Just wondering if anyone has bought the Rexxer for there 1100evo?
Or should I save my money and send it off for a reflash?

Does anyone know of  a Canadian company that has the pro Rexxer unit?

 I am about ready to redo my ecu. I have the Termy slipon kit and a 696 mid-pipe. My local dealer wants 400 bucks to do a reflash, and a Rexxer user is 600. My dilemma is which to do. At 4 bills for just the flash it is only 2 more for the tool. I don't know now if I will e doing more motor mods, butt I might.

go for the 6 bills option . . . you will be able to do some diagnostic too

$400 sounds somewhat over the odds for just a reflash.  

I've seen US Rexxer reflash (you send 'em your ECU, its reflashed to a spec and returned) going for $250 - $300.

If the $400 included a custom - at a Rexxer equipped dyno facility - reflash, then that would be certainly the option I would go for.

But $400 is too much for just the reflash alone IMO.

Owning the Rexxer User unit allows you to load the specific map you've purchased.  If - down the track you do other mods and want to reflash differently, you will need to purchase that additional map from Rexxer.  But you can revert back to stock and reflash with the supplied tuning map as often as you wish.... FWtW.   Rexxer user unit can also retrieve and reset any ECU error codes and reset the service due indicator.

 Thanks, Ung, when I heard they 400 figure I was rather put off! I'm really leaning toward the User unit at this point.
Am I correct that you need a PC to use this thing?

Like Ung said, $400 for JUST a reflash doesn't sound right.  $200-300 is pretty common.  I paid $365 for a used 796 ECU + Rexxer from Cinci desmo.

I started typing out a long answer as to why you really do need a PC, although it is possible to complete the reflash using just the preloaded device.

But I'll go for the short answer: Yes.

Two things I'd suggest if you buy the rexxer unit:

1) insist that the seller email you a copy of the stock ECU mapping for your model (I dealt direct with Rexxer in Germany, they had few dealers at that time).  You may need this if you ever want to revert to stock.

2) ask that they also email you a copy of the "tuning" map which is loaded on the device (as back-up).

That way you can flash-unflash-reflash if you need.

I charge $400 to reflash, which is what the au rexxer dist specifies.

if your ecu is flashed then the person who flashed it can reflash it again without another credit being required.  rexxer work on the credit system, so the person who flashes it has to buy a credit from rexxer and then the terminal uses that credit when it reads the ecu as the first step of the reflash.  after you've flashed the ecu you back up the info from the bike and maps flashed into it then you can save that on your pc and reload it into the terminal to reaccess the particular ecu at a later date.  it's rather convoluted and archaic, but it does work if you do it right.

unfortunately, you can't retrieve a credit by returning an ecu to original, meaning you can't give a money back guarantee.  with everything else I can, and that alone sells flashes to those who are wavering.

i'm not sure that i'd say having the terminal on hand to read fault codes, etc, is of any use or worth $200, but that's up to you.

.... everything costs more in Australia than in the US Brad  ;)

So are you saying that once I pay the reflash fee... if I need the ECU reflashed a second time it doesn't use one of your credits?  If so.... what does that mean if I want to have it reflashed a second time with a different map??

Are you able to retrieve the stock ECU mapping from the ECU prior the reflashing to "save" for later reflash reversal?

with the rexxer dealer unit I have, if I flash it I can reflash it at a later date without using another credit.  but someone else can't.  well, if I emailed the other person the restore file it may work.  that'd be a question for rexxer, as it might also be tied to my unit id?  dunno.

the siemens ecu file can't be read out of it without getting destructive I believe.

So once I pay my AU$400 I have all the subsequent flash updates I can eat?   ;D ;D

Yup.  Same with the Rexxer User unit.... it was originally intended to be able to upload the stock file from the ECU to rexxer device before downloading the new reflash file.... but never worked out that way in the end.  Which is why IMO its a good idea to have a copy of the stock ECU mapping kept aside... just in case.