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...the Devil, you say!

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The name is DIAVEL- The innovative new Ducati to be unveiled at the Milan show

After months of speculation and spy photography the long wait is almost over, the Diavel will make its first public appearance at the EICMA International Motorcycle Show in Milan 2-7 November.

Officially announcing the new model’s name ahead of the official presentation, the famous Italian manufacturer is about to turn another dream into reality, using the local Bolognese dialect word for “devil” in naming their new model Diavel pronounced Dee-ah-vel

The idea for the name was born early in the development process of the bike, when the prototype was assembled and wheeled out in front of a group of Ducati engineers and technicians for the first time. One person looking from the rear of the bike saw its silhouette and exclaimed in Bolognese dialect: “Ignurànt comm’ al diavel!” Meaning: “Evil, like the devil!”

Diavel became the internal nickname for the project, which Ducati now makes official as it approaches the upcoming unveiling in Milan. Reminiscent of how the “Monster” was named 20 years ago, the Diavel is now destined to follow the same Bolognese tradition, shaping the future of motorcycling while staying faithful to its heritage.

Built to have a commanding presence, though lightweight and agile like all Ducatis, the Diavel will take the man-motorcycle relationship to the next level in absolute comfort. For connoisseurs of technology, ABS, Ducati Traction Control and Ducati Riding Modes will deliver a confidence-inspiring sophistication while stunning looks, the Superbike-derived Testastretta 11° engine and 207kg (456lb) of authentic Ducati performance will drive a comfortable sport lifestyle that could only be dreamt of until now.

The DIAVEL is on its way….

..look here for the pic'... http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2010/10...iavel-spotted/ (http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2010/10...iavel-spotted/)

try this link http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2010/10/12/ducati-to-unveil-diavel-power-cruiser-in-milan/ (http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2010/10/12/ducati-to-unveil-diavel-power-cruiser-in-milan/)

 ;D :o [evil] [thumbsup] [bow_down]
mmmmmmmm i like

Looks the good from the back. I reserve judgment till I see the front.  [coffee]

I'm with Craigo, the ass looks good but then sometimes when you see the face you wish you had have just seen the ass only.

That looks nice  [thumbsup]

(http://www.onewheeldrive.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DIAVEL-766x1024.jpg)

I'm liking the hidden gauge cluster... Yeah, lets see the front....

On a side note, I wonder how it turns with a rear tyre that size, or maybe its not supposed to turn (and there's DP options for front foot controls and Ti apehangers (with CF tassles)

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/10/ducati-diavel-gets-colored-in/ (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/10/ducati-diavel-gets-colored-in/)

I likey! [thumbsup]

Not a bad tease. The last thing Ducati would want to do is show you a pict that makes it look like shit!

Why not.  They usually do.  Most of us disliked pics of the streetfigher until we had seen it in the flesh.

What are you talking about Heather, I hated the SF in the pics then when I saw it in the flesh I hated it even more!

I suppose it is a reflection on how many SF you actually see out on the road which for me is one for the last 12 months.

Robs two cents. [popcorn]

Just saying that from memory, I haven't heard many people say they like the look of new releases from their initial pics but opinions seem to change on seeing the bike in the flesh.  Some of the so called spy pics of this new Diavel have looked pretty awful but recent shots seem to be getting better.

I'm not inclined to drool over the streetfighter but I did enjoy test riding it.  However I sat on the new 796 Hypermotard yesterday and I'm now wondering how I can increase fuel storage on one  :o

No worries Heather never liked and never rode the SF. Do they still sell that model? Fuel capacity seems to be the big issue on these new models. The recent aquisition that I purchased has 15 litres to play with. sort of looks goood compared to the 12 litres in the S2R1000'

(http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/diavel_spy_set3_01.jpg)

more here (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motoblog.it%2Fpost%2F26407%2Fla-ducati-diavel-svela-i-suoi-colori%3Futm_source%3Dfeedburner%26utm_medium%3Dfeed%26utm_campaign%3DFeed%253A%2Bmotoblog%252Fit%2B%2528motoblog%2529%26utm_content%3DTwitter)

14 to be technically correct - 11 litres than 3 reserve - I rode mine to PI and back for the MotoGP recently (like yesterday).  Got about 20km per litre - which I thought was pretty good!

Back to the Diavel - from initial looks it does look cool - might be a bit comfier to ride to PI as well! Wonder how many litres of fuel it would carry!

Does this mean there would be a Oz Devils site then?  ;D

Agreed the specs state the tank capacity is 14 litres but in fact there is only 12 usable litres. I found this out the hard way a number of years ago on a DML run where I ran out of fuel half way down Mt Keira down here in the gong. Luck it was all down hill except for the last 400 metres to the petrol station. When I filled up the bike only took 12 litres.

20ks per litre is pretty damn good that would mean you would have got around 240ks out of your tank? I personally have got 230ks out of a tank once then again I ran out of fuel 2ks from Bombala. Copped alot shit from my Harley mates but who cares! [puke]


Back to topic the Daviel looks pretty hot. As you know alot of Harly owners own Ducati's so I think that the motivation for the model. I personally think its a great concept and if I can have my way with swinging the minister for finance & war I would like to try. I suppose the great question is going to be "What is the cost?"


Rob [drool]

Looks pretty cool, I'm not into cruisers but I likey, sort of V-Max ish

And I wouldnt mind betting that they have sorted the handling so it does turn and not scrape.





                                   Mmick

yeah I was stunned too - and I have gone past the 12 litre fill up point too!  I have squeezed out roughly 240km on the trip to the Island - and put in 12.5 litres at one stage - so dont know how dry the tank is - not tempted to run it dry!  ;D

Hopefully the Diavel will have a bigger tank as it would be perfect for cruising to the Island!  Not sure about the big rear when those lovely Vic rains come in though!  :o


you just reminded me of one Sir Doohan giving the rides around the PI track on a Honda cruiser - was constantly scraping around the corner of Siberia. Nice work!  [moto]

i think it has a little bit of hint towards the vrod with the head light and tank swoop but even more futuristic looking with the extended swingarm. much like how the buell 1125r didnt look right to me with the massive air inlets, i think its a touch busy/heavy up front for the gap it has between the rear tyre and guard.

if they somehow closed in the rear wheel to guard gap it would look more full like a traditional cruiser but then i spose it would look like every other cruiser wouldnt it!?! originality lost.. ill have to see it in person to decide if i like or not.

i certainly hope they put a decent size tank on it. my parents cruisers are both lucky to get 250kms out of a tank. while i dont really wanna do much more than that in one sitting i would prefer the option be mine as the rider as opposed to my destination/route being limited by my tank size. that problem is made worse when u live in the country.

Copied from the main board ... its kinda relevant, but I can't be bothered changing the context:

Found you a solution:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1238/5100495042_221156f28d_z.jpg)

Personally I think I'd prefer the Cycleworks option (and the dollar is good at the moment):

http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/docs/184/uncategorized/hypermotard-64-gallon-tank.html (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/docs/184/uncategorized/hypermotard-64-gallon-tank.html)

Thanks for researching it for me Betty.  [clap]  Yes I agree that Cycleworks option looks good and good price too.   [thumbsup]

watching the install video for that tank makes me think its quite a lot more effort to change the air filter on the hm compared to our simple monsters!!

More gossip for those ([roll] Rob??) shopping for a new bike:

http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/10/ducati-diavel-details-detailed/ (http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/10/ducati-diavel-details-detailed/)

 

As much as I would like the houshold minister for war and finance has declined funds. [thumbsdown]

Rob

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

mate dont give up wear them down!  Plus I dont tell the minister - things just happen to turn up in my shed! [thumbsup]  She didnt know about my Monster until I was leaving in the morning with a bike trailer on the back of the car to pick it up!  [laugh]

Mind you I think a Diavel would break the tenous thread in that aspect - admittedly she has put up with my foolishness in regards to toys, both two and four wheel varieties!

It does have appeal - better start buying those x-lotto tickets!  ;D

Cheer up Heather I still have the 998 Matrix bike! [thumbsup]

Don't worry Mr S2r I try my luck every week. ;D  I must say my missus is a very generous person if you look in my shed. [thumbsup] [moto] [thumbsup]

+1 to that!  ;D

More .....
http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/11/first-ducati-diavel-photos-from-milan/?ref=nf (http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/11/first-ducati-diavel-photos-from-milan/?ref=nf)

Rob,

  I would change the locks on your garage if i was you.......first, the "combine harvester" had to be sold to free up funds for the extension........next in line it seems is the beloved Monster. Firstly, go and check now to see if the Matrix is still out back, if it is, then guard it with your life. I can see it funding a world trip if your not carefull....! :o  :o  :o

Nah he's pooling coins for one of these:

http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/11/first-official-ducati-diavel-photos/ (http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2010/11/first-official-ducati-diavel-photos/)

 [laugh]

I must say there doesn't look like there is much left of the trellis frame, looks more plastic in there - they should of tried to keep it a bit more naked, but I guess when you have a water cooled motor that's when things get complicated!  [laugh]

 [clap] [clap] [clap] Don't worry Brian the Matrix is safe, especially after I looked into what the bike is valued at! :o



Heather, never say never but at the moment this is not the answer, for now anyway

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/video-ducati-diavel/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AsphaltandRubber+%28Asphalt+%26+Rubber%29&utm_content=Google+Reader (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/video-ducati-diavel/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AsphaltandRubber+%28Asphalt+%26+Rubber%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)


has this video been posted yet?
it's a make the beast with two backsen embarassment to the brand. want a v-rod? buy a bloody v-rod!

ok two odd things about that video;

1. I am sure it says "RIDING MODE" on the display on the tank - what else would you be doing??
before you jump down my throat it probably has something to do with traction control or such

2. the horrendous amount of lean to get it go around the corner! not very Ducati like!

Are you trying to sound like those Ducati snobs you were complaining about the other week? ;)

Ducati will tell you the real question should be ... if you wanted a v-rod, why the hell wouldn't you buy a Diavel? I have no idea about these things but it is probably a better bike all round.

If you are talking about embarrassments to the brand that may actually cause harm to Ducati (other than increasing their sales into a new market) ... it would be things like pulling out of WSBK :o Rossi underperforming 8) or only making Monsters with a wet clutch [thumbsdown] ... all of which are on the cards for next year.

But is it really required? Remember this is a video to sell things like it having the greatest lean angle of any power cruiser ... so their staff rider probably needs to show it off.

But if you are right ... making a more powerful bike that is harder to turn than their opposition could very well be disastrous.

Speaking of embarrassments, this article:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/ducati-builds-a-devil-of-a-v-max/ (http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/ducati-builds-a-devil-of-a-v-max/)

... has this quote:


 [bang] [thumbsdown] ... that counts as a big oops

I think part of the Diavel argument here that we may be forgetting is that a little while ago Harley and Ducati were to do some sort of share merger thing that fell through.  Ducati was relying on this to help further forge in to the American market.  I read somewhere that 75% of Harley owners had a Ducati as their "other" bike.  So why not build a cruiser and try to further break in to that market?

it is a funny question betty, and not in har har funny.  I think Harley have struggled a little with the v-rod as it had all modern stuff ie overhead cams, belt driven, Porsche designed motor.  Whereas Ducati have kept the build in house so to speak.  I myself if forced to buy a cruiser would go the Ducati for sound if anything.  I loathe the Harley sound, and the Japanese cruisers whilst have power and some styling also sound awful.
oh yeah Monster without dry clutch? I say NO!  [thumbsup] [cheeky]

no! i'm definitely not trying to sound like the ducati snobs i was complaining about! but i probably am.........
I guess it's immature of me but just like losing interest in a band i've loyally supported until everyone else has caught on how great they are, i'm not too keen on seeing ducati turning into an italian honda by trying to be something for everyone. Ducati has a proud and long racing heritage, the marque has been supported by fanatical devotees, especially here in oz for some reason, since the brand was first imported, and time and time again they have been reminded that ducati fans want sport bikes. They may lure the odd GS rider with a multi, or a V-rod fan for a diavel, but by and large, these deviations from their core fan base will usually spell dissapointment for the company in sales numbers and the owners with overpriced servicing and poor customer support compared to the traditional choice they dared turn their back on.
    As for pulling out of WSB with a factory team? that is sacrilige in my book, and i hope rossi does well on the GP bike but he's in a win/win situation now, if he does well it's him, if he fails it's the bike. But really, it's his retirement plan, a year or two with ducati and he'll be the face of the company like ago is with MV, even after decades..........

paul.

Hey........they are calling this a cruiser....right...?    My idea of a cruiser is being able to throw a passenger on the back and "cruise"..........that is why i opted for a "combine harvester".........at first i was excited when i heard about this bike.....that is,.....till i saw absolutely NIL in passenger area.....so i am now deflated..... bugga.......means i have to keep polishing chrome Rob.......dam, golly gosh........ :-[    :'(    [thumbsdown]

brian

 [cheeky] [laugh]


This has never really done us any favours with them from what I've been told. The big volume is surely the US and it would seem they don't have the same history.

I think the bigger part of the thinking is that so many garages reportedly have both a HD and a Ducati ... in a way I think they are testing the waters for the reasons why. Dare I say (especially without the history/loyalty mentioned above), that it is a choice made on the perception of 'best of breed'. Whatever the reason, it will be interesting to see what happens.


Honestly, what I really want to happen is for Hayden to consistently outperform Rossi [evil]


C'mon Brian you know better than that ... this is Ducati remember. I am sure the accessories catalogue (I almost typed DP catalogue) will be brimming with functional options to improve your cruising experience ... it will probably even be done in a way to involve your 'pillion' allowing them to take some ownership of the process.

that will never happen - Hayden is like the parallel 500 Ducati made - should be forgotten.....

As for the ability to carry another person I am split on this decision.  Lot of guys that have HD's are of the 'lone wolf' variety.  If they happen to have a pillion it is usually of the 'overnight' variety and they usually sit on the tiny cushion on the rear guard and wrap their legs around the rider! [laugh]

Maybe an option on the Diavel S??  [cheeky]

i reckon nicky hayden is tops! if only for the fact he beat pedrosa out of a title!

spies will be a thorn in everyones side next year, as long as his ankle is ok..........

Brian the combine harvester serves its purpose. Don't be ashamed maybe when I am 50+ I may think about one again........Now, there is too much fun now burning around on a Duke!

Rob

there sure is a place for combine harvesters.. my old man has one with a springer front end and 16" ape hangers. its certainly a fun change to take it for a ride when im home. especially now it has a stroked, big bore twin cam motor.

but i wouldnt trade my monster for one any day soon.

ha ha I hope when I am 50+ I am still on the same Monster!! [thumbsup]