Hi.
I want to share with you my little monster upgrade.
After many, many times of cleaning and then respraying sticky chain lube I decided to stop making this dirty and boring exercise. That was the easiest part of the job.
After a little research about what's the best way to keep your chain in good working condition I decided that the most common thing is to keep it clean and a little bit oiled, to decrease the friction between the chain rollers and the sprockets. Then the decision was to install chain oiler on my bike. I had a few ideas about fabricating my own oiler with a vacume or electric tap, but then I found this article: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/Ride%20Magazine/Product%20test%20pdfs/Chain%20oiler%20test.pdf (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/Ride%20Magazine/Product%20test%20pdfs/Chain%20oiler%20test.pdf)
It's a "Ride Magazine" chain oiler test and comparison. They tested few of this nice gadgets and compared them one to another. And then nominated a "best buy" product. Wich for me means just best "money for effectivness" comparison. I know that the expensive systems work very well, without taking the rider's attention, but I'm trying to keep the bike as simple as possible.
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/1836/124998978817806067371287569210UU2mprn4sjTFXbTCgSAV.JPG)
One month ago I purchased the TUTORO chain oiler, and after instaling and tuning it I was realy amazed of that little chain lubrication divice. It works really good. The chain is well loobed outside and inside, clean from dirt and rust, and with no extra oil on the rear part of the bike. It needs to determine the amount of oil drops per minute first, wich is a little time taking procedure.
It has to be done on every bike, depending on the choosen position of the reservoir,the lenght of the hose, the viscosity of the oil (I used 10W50 full synthetic engine oil, becouse it was what I had in the garage) and of course of the local air temperature.
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2338/1695486177607972269128756919365BCc6EcKXMBCIrt6V4Z.JPG)
The only thing that you have to remember is to close the tap after ride.
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For the instalation I used the plastic pipe, the ties and the rubber pads in the kit, and piece of copper pipe ( from car brake system) for better and stable position of the twin-feed nozzile toward the rear sprocket (somewhere between 7 to 8 o'clock).
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2942/96661175014467567661287569220XUaDPaL0x5cbCCgdHZ52.JPG)
I like it because it's simple, afficient, not so hard to tune and the most common reason it is really cheap.
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/2652/7667201001597927912875692352iH0Gq0FIEkv4e8q944b.JPG)
Top Up, Turn On and Ride Off [moto]
Cool. [thumbsup] How about some pictures, otherwise it didn't happen. 8)
You can't see em ???
If somebody else can't see the pics, please inform me and I'll upload them in other site.
Thanks [beer]
I can see them just fine. [thumbsup]
Interesting....
Though, I never found cleaning the chain to be a major task.
Isn't the oil supposed to drip on the chain, not the sprocket?
You would still have to clean the chain periodically anyway. You'll never get away from having to do that. For me wiping the chain down with a rag and some chain wax every 200 or so miles is not a big deal.
You would need to readjust the drip rate since it is much thinner, but automatic transmission fluid handles pressure better and doesn't pick up as much dirt.
Looks like a Vampire spare vial hanging there 8)
One of the O-rings on the clutch pushrod from my bike is failing and seeps a little oil. Same function, none of the cost ;D I need to get that fixed ASAP:
Quote from: BG DUKE on October 20, 2010, 06:06:25 AM
You can't see em ???
If somebody else can't see the pics, please inform me and I'll upload them in other site.
Thanks [beer]
My bad. Pictures must have been posted to a site that is blocked at work which is where I first read this thread. I can see them now. It's all good. [thumbsup]
Quote from: stopintime on October 20, 2010, 08:46:16 AM
Isn't the oil supposed to drip on the chain, not the sprocket?
+1 ???
Thank you for the comments [thumbsup] especially for the vampire's vival [clap]. The red oil on that dark bike looks really cool.
I'll try to answer your questions:
I won't stop taking care about my chain. Stop checking it can be a really dangerous and self-harming idea. This one is for change, because the little beast stretched it with my help of course [roll]
When the oil drips on the sprocket the centrifugal force is the one that spreads it on the chain. If the oil drips directly on the chain (depending of the speed of the bike, the speed of the chain and the viscosity of the oil) there is a chance that the falling oil drop could break on very small drops, or just couldn't have the chance to stick on the chain. By this reason the place where the oil is applyed to the chain is one of the most important things in these systems.
The new oil has very good cleaning functions and there is no need of extra cleaning. You have to do it only if you ride in bad weather conditions, mud or rain.
I can try with automatic transmission fluid [thumbsup]
@El Matador I hope you'll fix that oil leak very soon, notwithstanding the extra chain lubing function ;)
How is it that the added/frequently applied oil doesn't cause dirt and crud to stick to the chain?
Look really cool, but don't you get a shit load of oil flinging around while you ride???
Quote from: Monster Dave on October 20, 2010, 03:16:01 PM
How is it that the added/frequently applied oil doesn't cause dirt and crud to stick to the chain?
Clean oil in, dirty oil out. That's how it was explained to me.
Quote from: WhiteStripe on October 20, 2010, 03:19:36 PM
Look really cool, but don't you get a shit load of oil flinging around while you ride???
Adjusted right, there's no more flinging than normal. Depending also, I guess, on the type of oil.
QuoteHow is it that the added/frequently applied oil doesn't cause dirt and crud to stick to the chain?
Clean oil in, dirty oil out. That's how it was explained to me.
Quote from: WhiteStripe on Today at 03:19:36 PM
Look really cool, but don't you get a shit load of oil flinging around while you ride???
Adjusted right, there's no more flinging than normal. Depending also, I guess, on the type of oil.
Sounds abit too good to be true,
dirty oil pushed out & just disappers w/o flinging?
Quote from: greenmonster on October 20, 2010, 04:48:35 PM
Sounds abit too good to be true,
dirty oil pushed out & just disappers w/o flinging?
Not without flinging, but probably not more than normal. "Normal" being as with a freshly oiled chain.
Quote from: stopintime on October 20, 2010, 05:06:03 PM
Not without flinging, but probably not more than normal. "Normal" being as with a freshly oiled chain.
But I guess this would be a freshly oiled chain all the time and thus fling all the time. Give and take I suppose.
I've had the Scottoiler eSystem on my Bandit for a while now. My chain stays clean, there's very little fling, and most importantly the chain is unstretched at 19,500 miles. My Scottoiler was ridiculously expensive ($300) but it will pay for itself in short order. Chain maintenance now means wiping off the dirt once per month (even then its just a cosmetic cleaning and really isn't necessary).
Chain oilers on bikes that are used for long trips are fantastic. I would routinely forget to oil the chain after every other fuel fill-up whilst on a long ride. Now I don't even think about it. I also added an additional reservoir that only requires filling every 3500 miles. All the electronics and reservoir fit under my rear cowl.
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I ran the delivery hosing thru brass tubing (painted black of course):
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The oil delivery rate can be set to one of five rates thru the small display (to the left):
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Dietrich...paging Dietrich
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....There's a new project here for your GT1000!!!
I know this is old, but I wanted to show an update for my experience with the ScottOiler.
I bought the VSystem about a year ago. 12,000+ miles later, and I am very happy with it. I installed it at the same time I put on a new DID VX2 chain and Superlight front and rear sprockets. This is what the chain looks like after not touching it for about the last 1,000 miles:
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(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p513/NAKID1/IMG_2617_zpsf5dvgieb.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/NAKID1/media/IMG_2617_zpsf5dvgieb.jpg.html)
I love this thing! Is there fling? Of course, but my chain is ALWAYS clean and ALWAYS lubed. After 12k miles there is not apparent wear, no noticeable stretching (the only time I've adjusted the chain was when I changed the rear tire 6k miles ago).
The cost of the system (~$130) will offset the replacement cost of the chain and sprockets after 1 time.
I have the normal reservoir and get about 700-800 miles from each refill. I used the included Scottoil until it ran out, but then switched to 80wt gear oil. It's considerably cheaper at about $9 a quart vs $20 for 500ml of the Scottoil.