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Hey everyone, I'd like to know if it's possible to use the Woodcraft 50mm clip ons with the stock 696 triple?  Is there enough room to fit it under the stock triple, or would I need to replace it with something like a SpeedyMoto triple? 

This might be helpful

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=39550.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=39550.0)

A new top triple is not absolutely necessary. The SM top triple you mentioned is not as thick as the factory one and as a result if the stock is used your clipons will mount just slightly lower.

On the other hand your headlight and dash can use the stock mounting points on the stock triple and as a result the whole install will be much more simple. Not having to remove the triple makes installing clipons a 30 minute job.

The stock triple will used with clipons will have the headlight/gauge pod mounted a bit higher and may not be as aesthetically pleasing when clipons are installed.

My opinion? if you want to have the clipons and have them as cheap and as simple as possible just keep the stock triple. If you want all the sexyness of the SM top triple along with the more difficult installation and added cost go for it, I did and am extremely pleased with the final result.

Thanks for the info.  Yeah, I read your post while doing the research.  That's why I was leaning toward the SM triple.  I'll practice with the stock, then move up to the SM. Thanks again. [thumbsup]

No problem.

Good Luck!!

pics?

Dunno if you already bought your clipons or not... but there's this option designed to bolt onto the stock top triple >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=47258.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=47258.0)

Here you go.

Woodcraft clip-ons with medium (2") rise.  Pretty simple to do.  The only thing I had a problem with was stuffing all the cables back.

BTW: The turn radius sucks, but no problems with U turns.  You'll be lucky to get 20-25 degrees.  But totally worth it  [thumbsup]

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae71/datdudeHX/Clip%20Ons/IMG_20101119_111455.jpg)


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where is it hitting on full lock?

depending on the contact point, you could lower it you clip ons.

my zero rise actually come all the way down the the frame below the tank panels, so I have more lock to lock

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/71655_121161401273930_100001402122676_130022_5986866_n.jpg)

...and my 3.5" rise (Swatts, but Woodcraft make a taller rise too) has the bars sneaking into the tank's air intake recesses, losing almost no steering lock.

awesome, thanks for those posts guys. i may go the woodcraft route, pc'ing my top triple (the stock one) before i can afford the speedymoto one.

hey datdude, could you post a few pictures of your turning radius?


also, anyone have experience with this guy?
http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/desmoworld-m696-796-1100-headlight-relocator.html (http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/desmoworld-m696-796-1100-headlight-relocator.html)
(http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/265x265/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/d/h/dhrl_1_1.jpg)
would come in handy with this project, no?

thanks!

I've tried to lower them, but the headlights were in the way.  I also wanted the bars a bit more forward, but this was as far as it would go.  I'd love to see those headlight re-locator.  That would solve all my problems.

I don't know if it was just me, or does the bars that came with the kit a bit small.  I had to really struggled to get my bar end mirrors to fit.


I'll post them as soon as I get a chance.  Like I said, you shouldn't have any problems with turns.  I really interested in those(or something similar) headlight relocator as well. 
 

well you actually need the spacers for the coffin masters that's why the bars seem small. then you can push your controls in further to make room for the mirrors.

BTW the spacer from Desmoworld would solve the lowering and forward rotation issues.
Chris is an excellent sponsor and regular on the site when he isn't swamped with work. He speaks good english so email him.

Actually I don't have any problems with fitting the controls.  It's the inside diameter of the bars.  My mirrors fits directly inside the bars itself.  With the stock handle bar, my mirrors slipped right in.  No biggy, problem solved.

I'd definitely look into the spacer from Demosworld (or something similar, check out the shipping cost to the US, it's more than the part).  It would certainly make the installation and fit better.

Good luck and keep us posted.

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae71/datdudeHX/Clip%20Ons/IMG_20110322_130001.png)

(http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae71/datdudeHX/Clip%20Ons/IMG_20110322_125949.png)

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What i mean is your coffin masters stop you from moving the controls further inboard on the bars, thereby limiting both the position of your barend mirrors and apparently from your photos, your turning radius.

there are spacers for them that allow the reserviors to fit over the black part of your clipons

did you paint your headlight part (for loss of a better name) black? or did you powder coat it?

Flat black spray can about $7. I actually did them at the same time as the clip-ons since the headlights were already removed.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Dupli-Color-8-oz-universal-flat-black-Perfect-Match-paint/_/N-25gwZ1z10nts?counter=45&filterByKeyWord=paint&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=60036_0_0_ (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Dupli-Color-8-oz-universal-flat-black-Perfect-Match-paint/_/N-25gwZ1z10nts?counter=45&filterByKeyWord=paint&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=60036_0_0_)

And these (about $15 each) for the exhaust and heat shields after I cored them.  Great results, and after about a year, still looks great! Sounds terrific  [thumbsup]
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Thermo-Tec-11-oz-aluminum-high-heat-spray-coating/_/N-261a?counter=0&itemIdentifier=398798_0_0_ (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Thermo-Tec-11-oz-aluminum-high-heat-spray-coating/_/N-261a?counter=0&itemIdentifier=398798_0_0_)

after seeing an installed picture of the desmoworld headlight relocate on facebook my big question is can you still relocate the speedo by dropping it down low like Ive seen people do after going the clip on route

I am starting to consider 3" rise clip ons, though i would prefer the 2" woodcraft bars when it comes to their relationship to the triple. The 2" IMHO makes the now horribly noticeable speedo stand out like a deuchy tophat. FML. I wish I had the guts to cut that up and drop it down. Have yet to see someone do that though with the stock headlight (even possible?)

hmmmm, yeah, 3" transitions into  stock speedo best.

I think 3" would also solved the clearance issues, because it would be high enough to fit into the air intakes. 

In terms of hiding the speedo, I'm thinking about getting these windscreen http://www.ducatiperformance.com/ducati-monster-6967961100-silk-screned-smoked-windscreen-p-1035.html (http://www.ducatiperformance.com/ducati-monster-6967961100-silk-screned-smoked-windscreen-p-1035.html).   It seem to help blend the speedo and the headlights nicely.

Check out our fellow DMFer, L4zy's bike.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=47164.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=47164.0)

umm, not sure i want another fairing, trying to get the front as low and flat as possible. even considered removing the speedo and hiding the guts i have to keep inside the bike somwhere.

I'm pretty certain Ungeheuer lowered the gauges on the stock light.

but yeah. seems the 2" are the wrong fit for the bike. too high to hit below the tank, too low to fit into the air intake

Your options when taking into account turning radius, riding position, and speedo appearance are

A. 3" rise - Fits into cutout, minimal loss of turning radius, lines flow well with stock height gauge pod. (What I have)

B. Zero rise - Bars come in underneath tank on the top trellis tube, minimal loss of turning radius, necessitates lowering of gauges because of how stupid it would look if not done. (What Raux has.)

A is cheaper and less extreme for riding position.
B is cooler, more extreme riding position, and cooler.

It's up to you man.

yep, i like rauxs set up, but would rather not change the light unless i could do the dual round headlights staked, but, i dont thinki could tuck them into the forks deep enough to be satisfied.
stock light it is.

ill take the option behind door number A Bob...

You aint been lookin' hard enough then  ;).  It's possible, its not even hard.....

.....the only hard part is committing to the cut  [evil]. 

Looks like this when you're done....
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4757856020_05999d9970_b.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2552/3979213289_27dc456c4e_b.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2545/3731395643_dfda1c1028_b.jpg)
..... pulls the speedo in closer to the top triple and lower down to the headlight.  Makes for a neater, meaner, sleeker look IMO.

And here's how I did it for anybody who's interested   >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=28586.msg615898#msg615898 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=28586.msg615898#msg615898)

fantastic look, i know ive seen it done before.


consider it done

Wow! That is nice  [thumbsup]

DTorrey - make sure to post some pics when you're done.

will do, may be mid may before its complete, but i will post for sure.