Ducati Monster Forum

Had a 2010 M1100 ABS that was a lemon that is being replaced by Ducati as we speak.  At one point they could not find me a black framed bike with ABS and when we discussed a 2011 this is what Ducati told me.  The 2011 M1100 will not be out for another 6 months minimum.  It will have the following changes: standard ABS (like this), traction control (I want this), two into one exhaust on the bottom like the street fighter (like the current look but sucks for the passenger having two), and cosmetic changes (hmmmmmm).  It looks like we are going to have a new M1100 coming shortly.  Just wanted to pass the info along straight from Ducati's lips to your ears.

Hmmmmm..…
I heard Ducati is building a hypermotard.      :P



The traction control sounds cool.   [bacon]

ABS and traction control would be sweet. Maybe I'll have to wait a bit longer for a new bike  [moto]

ABS, Traction Control AND new exhaust? This might be the new bike.

Ducati specifically told me it was a revised or new 2011 Monster 1100 (this was coming from their head of NA sales).  In my situation at the time I could wait for that and they said minimum 6 months but more like 8 for the bike to hit the states or get my money back.  The found the last 2010 black framed new Monster this Monday and went with that.  Basically, they are revising the current 1100 monster module with those features and a new look.  Ducati made it sound that this is not a new bike or a revision of anything other then then the Monster 1100.  As far as I got.  Info for us all to consume that is not on the street yet.

Definitely sounds possible. ABS is already offered as an option, so no big deal there, and making it standard should significantly lower pricing. Traction control is already offered on some of their other models, so again it should not be that big a deal to offer it. I'm not a big fan of the current exhaust so any change would probably be better for me.

I more wonder what the cosmetic changes are.  Not a huge fan of the light.  Had and will have the ABS and it works great.  Just the confidence it puts in your head is worth the price.  I believe they have a promotion for all 896s to include free ABS now.  Sounds like they are just taking that option off all Monsters and spliting the difference of the additional Marginal Cost with the consumer; have to love economics.  Traction control would be nice in the rain especially with all the torque Monsters have.  I kind of like the current dual exhaust.  Not sure what it is but thinking about it I look like this  [moto].

Ohh! Exciting!
 [popcorn]

Don't get too excited about it, he didn't mention anything about a stock stepladder  ;)

Just have multiple oil leaks, 8 service times in 3 months, and a valve seizure and they will give you the stepladder option to a 2011, hahaha.

Low blow!!   :'(   

 My people will not take this infraction lightly!!    [evil]

Yes, very low blow  ;D


I ain't afraid of smurfs  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Ok, ok I'll stop, I promise

Just wait, I'll soon have 7,000 miles worth of time to exact revenge. Muaha  [evil]

Confirmed! New engine, new exhaust and ABS standard!! 100 HP!!!

evo engine most likely, to keep in-line with the hypermotard

where is this info coming from? links?

I can see the Evo Motor from the HM 1100 Evo happening...
and the ABS standard had been mentioned...
And I knew they were getting the 796 subframe...
and there is even a rumor of dropping the S

but the new exhausts? that's totally new info.

Only downside is that there isn't an S with Ohlins. - Gene

No idea where the OP got his info, but I confirmed it through someone that was at the Vegas meeting a few weeks ago.

Can you confirm is there will or will not be an S with Ohlins? If so, then Ducati may have just sold me a bike in a years time  [moto]

No, as I said no S per se, ABS is standard, but no Ohlins. - Gene

Well more power and ABS are the main things, I can always upgrade suspension later.

Thanks

It's still going to be adjustable just not Ohlins.

well it makes sense that they are doing this, since it sounds like the 1100 isn't selling that well comparatively.   they have to almost give the abs away now that its becoming so prevelant on many bikes and the traction control if they do that it would actually give them an additional feature that not every naked has so that would be a plus to buy it.

the motor is a push, they basically have to do the evo to make things more cross compatable btwn the hyper and the 1100 only question is why it took so long to do it.

now a new exhaust that will be a wait and see, it could be cool if done correctly and such, but not sure how they are going to put the cat down at the bottom without it looking horrible since its a naked bike there is no way to "hide" the larger cat underneath the bike except for doing something like they did on the s2r versions

well if they are going to improve the 1100 by this much and make it still under 15k fo rthe base model i might have to consider it next year, either that or the current brutale.

then again the whole plastic tank deformation is really offputting of the ducatis now.

Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but are you saying there will be no S model at all, or that there will still be an S model with fully adjustable suspension, just not Ohlins?

the stock 1100 will have adjustable suspension. no S model

The new bikes with the "skins" don't have a plastic tank problem, correct?

one person has said they had a problem with the seal where the fuel pump is. but I suspect that is from heat buildup from the midpipe.. and a one off problem. no one else here or the other board, that i've read, has the issue.

but someone has mentioned the new tanks are a different material and shouldn't have the issue.

All new Monsters come with plastic tanks. They all have the expanding tank issue.

696/796/1100 included? Aside from the guy on this board with the warped tank unrelated to the expanding issue I have never heard of a new monster having an expanding tank issue.

Give it enough time. Even the SBK's have the issue. I think you don't see it because of the plastic panels. Dizz is the resident expert.

There are many plastics.  Since the new Monster tank is hidden by the skins it is not made of the same paintable nylon and may not have the same problem, like the, oh, about 15 year old plastic gas can in my garage.

i thought the new 1098/848 all had metal tanks on them?

but we should be seeing if the 696 early models start to have plastic expanding tanks soon its almost been 2 years so far.

The 848 definitely has a plastic tank. Not sure about the 1198s.

Again confirmed. New Monsters are also experiencing the expanded tank issues.

who on this forum had this issue (besides that one guy who had the damage near the fuel pump)?  I have not heard of any 696/796/1100/1100S owner state they experienced an expanded tank.

Also, do those who let their bikes sit for a long time experience it more than those who daily ride their bikes?  I assume if you're constantly filling up, (say, once a week), wouldn't that keep the water from separating from the fuel?

edit: had to fix major spelling issues.

Ducati made a 697?!   ???


I take it that's the Hypermotard 697?   ;)


I have an 2010 1100.   I use it as a daily commuter and constantly fill it up.  No issues with the tank.

I would normally say to read the sticky thread on the expansion but it's like 60 pages deep. Some of us remember of a person on a 696 that could not put on the panels after the tank expanded. If you use your bike as a daily driver then you would probably not see the issue. If it sits for more than a few days, you can buy an additive similar to Star tron, which is used for marine engines. For further preventative measures, use the Caswell coating. At least read the first post on the thread for the most updated info.

I thought Tizz had said the skinned tanks are a different material less likely to deform (just like Howie said above).

mitt

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43642.msg788786#msg788786 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43642.msg788786#msg788786)

Yes, it was a special edition.  Only two made.  I have one for sale. First 100 persons who live near you get one free!  ;)

Ahh, thanks... I'll look for more info.  I've read most of the sticky but not all of it.  I hope its not as common as older monsters.  :-\

Looks like this info was right on the money:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/tagged/2011-ducati-monster-1100-evo/ (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/tagged/2011-ducati-monster-1100-evo/)

If it comes with TC, then I might be selling my bike soon.

not as bad as I thought it was gonna be.  Only problem is, they used "Diavel" style exhaust.  Me no likey.  On a positive note, it gets rid of the Mid-pipe under the seat, which tends to roast the chestnuts at times.

(http://www.moto-station.com/uploads/9816_normal.jpg)

I'm hoping they get the termis out soon.

There goes ducati stealing my ideas again......

finally, a decent passenger peg off the frame setup, instead of those ugly rearsets...they realized how horrible of a design that was visually.  I wonder how much of this is to streamline the Termi slipons for the multi/diavel/monster (if it will do this, i don't know what the termi option will be, but I can only assume similar style/fitment).

with some smaller, better looking cans, that's a solid upgrade to the complaints many had with the 1100. 

Termis, barend mirrors, levers, open clutch.

Nice! The potential for this bike just increased that much more.

The new style exhaust allows for a lot of cool "streetfighter" style slip on exhaust. Similar to the low mount arrows on the street triple.

Figures everything I do aftermarket is now stock... 

interesting. using the Diavel styling to make the Diavel part of the family.

Wonder how it's going to affect cornering clearance.

the rearsets are nice.

want to see what they're gonna do to the 696 and 796 now

Figures!! they fix the main visual problems with the 696/796... FUGLY rearsets and under seat exhaust that is too damn hot in the summer...

Check the article Abs, TC standard.

No more dry clutch  [coffee]

"The Monster 1100EVO features a new APTC wet clutch which ensures quiet operation and long life. In addition, the progressive self-servo mechanism reduces the lever effort at the handlebar and makes the Monster even more practical in traffic. The Monster 1100EVO APTC wet clutch works with a race-like ‘slipper’ system which reduces the destabilizing effect of the rear-end under aggressive down-shifting, and compared with other wet clutch used so far by Ducati, features an additional cush-drive damper mechanism which smoothes the repeated transition from drive to over-run during stop-start traffic."

And about a 1100EVO SP version with Forged wheels, Öhlins and Brembo M4?  [laugh]

holy crap..
so the only dry clutch bikes left are the HM 1100 (for now) and the 1198!!!

Hmm the end of the dry clutch? I'd invest in that possibility.

want the new red skins... would sooooo awesome with my frame

http://www.ducati.com/bikes/monster/1100__evo_/index.do (http://www.ducati.com/bikes/monster/1100__evo_/index.do)


Here it is boys & girls

Derby

(http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/2011_Ducati_Monster_1100EVO_2-thumb.jpg)

The EICMA content from Milan seems to be coming thick and fast today and well ahead fot eh official releases. This top of the range Ducati Monster 1100EVO brings an older S4R look to the new Monster range and replacing the 1100S model with a true 100bhp air-cooled twin for the first time.

(http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/2011_Ducati_Monster_1100EVO_4-thumb.jpg)

The 100bhp is no doubt achieved in part due to the larger Diavel / Streetfighter side mounted twin exhausts. The new model reportedly includes ABS and traction control as standard as well as provision for the DDA Ducati Data Analyzer. The ergonomics have been revised with a flatter seat and taller bar whilst the forks seem to be Marzocchi units that have lately been back in fashion at Ducati.

Double derby

no more dry clutch what a shame, looks like you have to order the 2010 abs model instead while they last.

I might prefer the TC to the dry clutch. There are already 2 other threads about the Evo.

I wonder if the placement of the exhaust system back behind the right footpeg now means that those of us with large shoe sizes now can't comfortably ride the bike once again, like the S2R1000.

That was one of the main things I liked about the switch from the S2R1000 to the 696/1100.

BC.

well maybe the two systems are interchangeable

Although non-traditional for Ducati purists, I like the idea of the wet clutch with a slipper.  I am assuming this may make the jump between the 696 and the 1100 easier.

The death of the dry clutch.

Time to pick up a '10 1100s, the last of it's kind!!

Their excuse is easier in traffic?   :-[
Just like red frames, you should always have a dry clutch option for everything but the multi of course

No longer a Derby as it's merged.  [thumbsup]

So is the EVO the one and only M1100 model for 2011?

(http://www.ducati.com/pub/image.do?rule=white-border2&src=/cms-web/upl/img/bikes/2011/Family-Pages/Monster-Page/tech_M-1100evo_%5b360x240%5d.jpg&output=PNG&cache=true&httpCache=true&interpolation=bicubic2&width=430&color=%23000000&height=240&ext=image.png)

The wheels are seriously nice.  And the rear footpeg hangers are a massive improvement too.  I'm not loving the Diavelesque exhaust though... hate those ugly pipe joins and ... and whats that... the in-line flappergate before the cans?...  Its a pity to hide the beauty of that rear wheel and SSSA behind those bulky cans.  Standard ABS and traction control is nice, but lack of a dry clutch me no like at all.  Marzocchi front end could be good.  Sachs rear definitely not so good.  But another 5hp straight out of the box is a nice boost.

My early impression? Some you win and some you lose.

Just another mod.  ;)   All MotoGP bikes are dry clutch. All manufactures. AFAIK

well since this is a largecase motor, the 848 dry clutch conversion should fit easily.

I would wait until someone actually goes through the process and let's us know how it goes.  ;D


+1 ABS and TC make it enough of a win. You add new rearsets, similar to the S*R, then it's more of a win. Break even with the exhaust, since it's ugly as sin but it moves it away from your butt so that you can ride during the summer. Losing the dry clutch is super painful. I'm up in the air about losing the S model. It was priced in the Streetfighter range when adding the Ohlins. Lets face it, 98% of us would not use our bikes to the point where the Ohlins made that much more of a difference. If you're using your bike to that limit, then you should be taking it to the track.

That is a good looking bike except the exhaust but I bet if we go back when the latest generation monster came out everyone was saying the same thing about the exhaust coming out the back.  Everything else is superior on the bike and is well appreciated (DTC, ABS, and etc).  I can see why some people would be upset with the wet clutch but for most the wet clutch will be a good thing.  Besides the bling of open air, a wet clutch is a better option for a day to day rider on this style of bike, makes it a little more of a jack of all trades.  I can still see the purists view though because it is a Ducati.

Wow - I'm really liking this bike.  Who know that a simple exhuast change would transform the bike.  I'm not sure if I like more now 'cause it reminds me of my current 2007 S4RS but this pictures look great!

(http://i53.tinypic.com/28jrjp.jpg)

I've only had my 696 for a few months, but I want that 1100 Evo with no hesitation.

The ABS + TC is a huge thing for me, love the exhaust (the location, not necessarily looks but I'm ok with the looks), the wheels, the rear pegs, the overall look of it.  

And honestly...I'm glad it's a wet clutch too.  Don't hate me, it's just I love the feel of my 696 and don't want that to change on the bigger bike.

Takes my 696 which I already LOVE and makes it....perfect!

Pretty much, the only thing stopping me from buying it is all the cash I have dumped into my bike... the parts would all have to be removed and sold.. too much time.

I'll be selling my bike as is. I will take a hit on all the mods, but it's an '05.

Dry clutch is a heavier pull its true.  Although it seems to bother some more than others, doesnt bother me at all.  Slipper?   I dont miss it.   And... if I was in the market for a "jack of all trades" ride, I'd buy a Honda.  My Ducati though, I want that dry clutch rattle  8). 

[roll] Lame excuse  [cheeky] ....

Woodcraft clipons, Speedymoto top triple, Rizoma grips, Rhinomoto bar ends, CRG hindsight mirrors, R&G tail chop, DP Touring seat, Speedymoto sliders... all a direct swap from M696 to M1100EVO  [evil].

And since the exhaust on M1100EVO is gruesome to behold.... you just need to get hold of some stock M1100 headers and then even your H-Competition twin tube will bolt straight on.

You're welcome  ;D.

DAMMIT UNG!!!!

Now what's my excuse.... did just buy woodcraft rearsets last week for $440 but I suppose I could sell them or return them...

NO NO... I don't need it, I think..

Those will probably still fit too!

just saying

Noo Dammit Matt!!!!

Really though, I'll go buy a 2011 if the rearsets fit.

not 100% confirmed, but I would be amazed if they didn't.

plus you'll already have passenger pegs without havign to spend additional money since they are separate on the new bike ;)

+1  [thumbsup]

So... whats it to be? Red or Black?  ;D

Gotta have the red!!!! (no white)

 +1
 
   Unless I can find a 10' 1100S ABS deeply discounted, this is my next bike.
 Ducati fixed the things that bug me and I would have to immediately change out ( rear sets, gold wheels, I'm in a toss up over the current and new style exhaust, I love the dual s4r style ) of course the exhaust would have to go first, and then the rear fender, but I would be happy for a while.

I'm still [drool] ing...

Ducati still has a couple red frame 2010S modules with ABS no black frame modules left in NA.  They have been searching for a replacement for my lemon I bought at the beginning of the summer.  Ducati had to grab one from the marketing department to full fill my need of a black frame.  Otherwise you are good to go.  Hopefully the ride will end soon and I will actually get to ride again.

Talked to the local dealer today.
Was informed that price was holding steady @ $11,999 for us NA customers. The rear sub frame "should" allow for removal of the passenger pegs. The DTC system is similar to the other systems already on Duc products but it has 4 levels of adjustment instead of the 8 or something that the Multi has. The 4 on the monster should be about the same as 8 on the Multi and the 1 setting is about equal on both.

The local dealer is also accepting deposits.
:giggity:

edit: they also said from what they are hearing it could be as late as may for them to ship.

I really dislike the exhaust, but I'm sure there will be some decent after-market options.

I am kinda liking the exhaust looks, but the design just makes work on the timing belts seem like a total pregnant dog. 

 Nice exhaust shot. I think they look very good!  The kits are slip-ons like the 696, leaving the flapper valve in place.

Carbon racing silencers kit
Dual oval racing silencer kit. Silencers are constructed with a carbon fibre sleeve and removable db killers. Kit includes a dedicated ECU and a replacement high efficiency air filter.
Notes: For racing use only
$  1,699


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Stainless-steel homologated silencers kit
EU street approved dual oval titanium silencer kit. Constructed from titanium, this pair of silencers makes the bike lighter, and produces a more rich and full engine sound. Kit includes a dedicated ECU and a replacement low-restriction air filter.
$  1,899


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termi fixes everything  [drink]

i just realized... no exhaust flapper?  or is that just the full termi?

and those headers need to be ceramic coated asap imo

That looks much better! 

Sadly, my dealer is only bringing three in, one of which is already sold.

Arn't those Termis?