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Taking my S2R1000 in tomarrow for full Termignoni system.  I have heard a bike with the same system with no baffles and thought is sounded good how much difference is there with the baffles in? 

even i know the answer to this one NO BAFFLES. baffles are bad [coffee]


the ron [evil]

Baffles probably make the cans legal but the good stuff happens when the baffles come out.

And it only takes two allen screws and a pair of vise grips to remove them.   [evil]

And after your neighbors start giving you the evil eye you just reverse the procedure to put them back  in ;D.

Keep them in I know its cool to take them out wake up the neighborhood have your bike sounding like a souped up hot rod, but there could also be a bunch of issues with the bike when removing them. 

the panthro

I never considered keeping my baffles in.
They were out before I put my pipes on.
As for noise and neighbors, well my bike doesn't sit and warm up out the front.
And when I come home I am just mindful of not roaring in the street like I am still at 10/10th's.

In the end it's personal choice and you choose what works for you.

cheers
Matty...
 

If you take the baffles out (as you should) then wear earplugs to save your hearing.  Hearing loss is gradual and permanent.  And don't worry you'll still be able to hear the bass.  [thumbsup]

Theres baffles?



actually 04 Termi's don't have baffles, never did, from back when we stuck it to the man with no regard for the neighbors!

yep them are the odd shaped things that fell once they came outta the box.
a redundant item only necessary if you don't take your bike to your usual mechanic for rego.....
or if johhny  [leo] gets in your way.

baffles phffffff.........
Let it ROAR.... [evil] [evil]

I ride with the Baffle is ,used to ride without  but it was very loud and because my p*nis is big enough i don't have to make a lot of noise  [laugh]

Guess I will ride with them out first so I can hear just how loud it is then I will decide.  I live in the country dont really have any neighbors to disturb but if I did I would.  Thanks for all the input [beer]

I have termis with baffles on the M900 and the ST3, sound pretty good and both bikes pull hard from around 4K RPM vs 5K RPM for stock. On my S2R1000 I wanted to do something different and since I bought it mostly for track I got some reverse cone megaphones from ARC, nothing in there no baffles, nothing. But still had the udder, sounded pretty good and perfromance was good - but then I decided to go with a full system back to the ARC - Now I have a sound - awesome! I have only done about 250 miles on this new system but this thing pulls hard from 3K and the sound is great, can't wait to get it on the track. If it will tune correctly, I say no baffles, you can always put them back in. - Gene

 ??? If he is getting a full system, it is designed to run with or without the baffles. If anything, he just needs to be sure they set it up with the baffles OUT first. then he can put them inw/o issues as there will already be enough fuel in the equation versus the other way 'round. YANK EM OUT!!   [evil]Mine never even made it on the bike. I had em out before I even started the install. They are only LOUD when you get on it. Simply SUHWEETNESS otherwise...

is ARC still around ???
there website is out of order I read somewhere Doug is working wiht BCM but couldn't find anything on their website

I am desparately looking for a spaghetti system for my '95 900 SS/SP


Dan................

I just did the full Termi system on my S4RS Tricolore and rode for the first couple of days without the baffles and then put 'em in to see what the difference would be.  I gotta say that without the baffles the bike was VERY loud, which may or may not be to your liking, to each his/her own.  With the baffles the bike still has a nice deep tone, and of course it's still got the roar through the open airbox.  It's definitly more socially acceptable while still sounding properly Ducati.  What I definitely do like is that with the baffles the bike has more down-low snap.  Without the baffles the bike had more power and ran smooth, but the power increase was most noticeable in the upper rpm range.  With the baffles in it's still got tons of power everywhere, but right off the bottom it pulls way better.  I think the low-end benefitted from the increased back pressure.  Remember that on a street-going engine you need some back pressure to help boost low and midrange power.  Only drag bikes can get away with full-on straight pipes because they only run at max rpm during drag runs.  If you give up all back pressure, be prepared to give up some low-end power, and the rideability that goes along with it.  I like being able to snap wheelies out of corners and not having to rev the piss out of a bike, and this setup suits it to a T.  That's T for Termignoni!

My dealer has offered me the option of set up with or with out the baffles, I said I'll be without the baffles so that what he is setting it up for, but it will run fine with them if Mr  [leo] gives me the evil eye ;)

I saw a 1098R having it's termi's fitted the other day, and I was amazed at the baffles for it, Must have been very restrictive, there was only 4 tiny little ovals cut into each baffle for the pipes, .5 of an Inch long by a quarter inch across. Massive amount of restriction!

The baffle inserts that went into my Termis were nothing like that restrictive.  Each baffle had an extension that went about 5" into the silencer, with the extension being well perforated with holes to allow a fair amount of air flow.  Takes five minutes to install or remove so I can always go back to unbaffled if I want.  I do think it's still plenty loud, even with the baffles in place, and certainly worlds better sound quality than the sewing machine sounding stockers.

I just had a new Termi carbon high set of pipes sent over....ECU, airbox, cans...for the m1000 and there weren't any baffles in there at all - and the box was unopened from the factory. Of course the cans have "for racing only" written on them - so perhaps that model doesn't even bother to try and be legal.

Installation is in 2 days, this could be interesting!

Enjoy your set-up Cairns - and remember to post in Ozmonsters a picture in "show us your ride"

I would advise that whether you leave them in, or take them out, have the shop (or whoever installs them) remove them before the installation and reinstall them (if you choose) with the screw set.  Appearently, there is a couple of spot welds or something that holds the baffle in place and it has to be either knocked loose with from the entry end of the canister before being installed, or pulled out by a bar that is welded in the exit end of the baffle.  I think the second option is a beast to accomplish and you could damage the tips of your pipes.  Just advice I recieved at the old site.  Didn't matter for me.  My baffles came home in the box next to my old "utter".  Not admitting to anything, I just liked the noise!

My baffles were also meant to stay in. They only lasted a few hundred km's. Everyone comments on how much better it sounds with them out.

Got the bike back and have put about a 150 miles on it.  The s2r1000 should come like this from the factory, no more stalling, no surging, it is a much smoother easier to handle ride.  I got it set up with the baffles out and I love the sound I dont think it is too loud. 

Taking it on a 250 mi ride this weekend cant wait to see how the gas mileage is.  Right now I dont think it has changed much if at all.

I too am baffle-less  ;D  S2R1000.

The only concern for me is my neighbors/neighborhood.  I warm up in the garage, and ride conservatively in the immediate area.  Asked my retired next door neighbor, he didn't even know I had a new bike.  [thumbsup]

And that is leaving for work at 5:30am

So, IMO you can ride w/o baffles and keep reasonable people happy..

Any update on mileage?

No baffles on my S2R1000 with the full Termi setup. I have put the baffles back in a couple of times to be considerate of the neighbors but it sounded crappy so off they came. It's not that loud unless you're heavy on the throttle, which is why I wait till I'm well out of my neighborhood before I let it open up. As far as fuel economy goes I haven't noticed a difference between running with baffles or not, but I did notice a drop when I went from Termi slip-ons/ecu/airbox to a full system: went from 180 kms between fill-ups to 160 kms.

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