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On Sunday October 24th a friend of mine was involved in a head on collision with a car.  He pulverized his T12 vertebrae and is paralyzed from his chest down.  He would like me to sell his remaining motorcycle to help cover some of his medical expenses.  I was thinking of raffling it off.  

<admin>   wonderfull idea with potentially tricky legal issues.  If those get sorted somewhat and it's clear the DMF isn't involved at all the thread can stay.  We're not hosting any interstate gaming.  

Maximum 200 tickets sold.  Auction will end on December 31st at 5:00pm PST.  Drawing will be held at GP Motorcycles in San Diego, CA.

The bike has only 3987 miles.  The VIN # is ZD4RKC01XAS000030.  Each ticket will come with a tax deductible receipt from the Can't Keep Me Down foundation.  100% of the proceeds will be donated to Xavier Rigau for expenses not covered by insurance.  Make checks payable to "Can't Keep Me Down" and mail to 3958 corte mar de brisa, san diego, ca 92130.

Here are a couple of pictures:

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/PB088668.jpg)
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/PB088669.jpg)

I am extremely sorry to hear about your friend. It's going to be tough physically, and especially tough psychologically.





In regard to the raffle:

what's the number of tickets being sold and what insurance do we have you will actually deliver the price to a winner?

Sorry to hear about your friend.  Hoping for a speedy, complete recovery [beer]

As far as insurance, Silent Bob's name is good enough for me.

+1
I'm really sorry to hear about your friend.

I am sorry for your friend and have no problem with the idea generally speaking and making a ticket purchase as a donation...but it would be better to also announce the number of tickets you are going to sell and/or when the cut-off is for the drawing....nothing against you SB...

I still need to work out the details.  But I was thinking of selling 200 tickets, having the money sent to a paypal account, sending out a contract specifying the terms, and having a cutoff date after which the money would be returned if the minimum number of tickets weren't sold.  I was thinking of storing the bike at our local dealer and having them handle the transaction.

If anyone has any suggestions or experience I would appreciate the feedback.

My friend is handling things very well and has accepted his condition way better than I would have.  He has some serious grit.  I wouldn't be suprised if he got back on the race track on a bike with some retractable landing gear some day.

Sorry to hear about your friend.   :-\

Count me in for a ticket.


sac

Very sorry to hear about your friend.

As for the raffle, I vividly remember a member trying to sell his bike via a raffle/lottery awhile ago and someone brought up some legal issues.  You might want to do a little more research on that before moving forward with it.  I know your intention is good.  Just don't want you to get into legal issues.  :)

maybe Speeddog can offer some help in reaching out or perhaps if you know anyone at Pro-Italia from when they did that charity raffle of the 'Sedici....

Sorry to hear the news.  Wishing him a speedy recovery and hopefully some mobility regained. 
Count me in on that raffle to help your buddy out.

"Private Lotteries
Private lotteries that provide some type of profit or cash for the person running it are against the law in California, but certain private, non-profit, and charitable organizations can hold a charitable raffle as long as at least 90% of the amount raised goes directly either to the charity running the raffle, or on behalf of another eligible charity or organization. The state itself runs a lottery to raise funds for education based on The California State Lottery Act of 1984.


Read more: California Gambling Laws | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6837313_california-gambling-laws.html#ixzz14LIUKnlt (http://www.ehow.com/list_6837313_california-gambling-laws.html#ixzz14LIUKnlt)"

Same info I found on a few other sites as well ... Not an attorney, just an avid GOOGLER  ;D

Cheers,
Adam

So it sounds like you might have to set up a nonprofit to do the raffle. That's not hard to do in TX. My fiancée and her best friend set one up not long ago to sell some t-shirts, and donated the proceeds to an animal shelter. Don't know how it works in CA.

From what I understand, you could set up the non-profit and donate the funds to a qualified charity. Since your injured friend is not a qualified charity it would not be legal to give him the proceeds.
Would you have to legally create a "fund" for your friend so he could become a valid recipient?

I've got precious little knowledge on raffles, and AFAIK the PI raffle was for a school.

and in reality that's not a bad idea to set something up for him, because it's long term recovery and this one raffle won't cover him in the future.

Setting up a non profit is unbelievably difficult compares to most organizations due to the possibility of fraud   :(

well...I was more thinking you might be able to reach out to someone dealer to dealer wise and ask a question or put together the best point of contact for those kinds of questions to get answered...that is all...

You're giving him some serious homework....

your mission......should you choose to accept it...


LOL...

Sorry to hear about your friend.  :'(

Count me in for a raffle ticket if you can work out the legalities.  :)

Well, if I can think of somebody to reach out to on this, I'll check it out with them and see what they say.

I may be interested depending on what what the money situation is that week

I spoke with a friend of mine whose son was paralyzed in a surfing accident.  She has a non-profit setup already.  She said she would accept the funds for the raffle and cut a check to my friend.  She would also provide me with the tax deductible receipts for those who purchase tickets.

I'll post more info as I get things in order.

Can she legally donate the money to your friend after the raffle?

Awesome, SB! count me in.

Hush, you!

as long as you are doing this all legally and the raffle is legitimately done t

hen i think you will get an awesome turnout for 50-$100 per ticket and then if you sell something like 500-1000 of them that would at least cover some of the costs your friend desperately needs.

i would be interested if and when you get this all sorted out and ready to go, i'm sure you will at least get around 100 people from the board here if its well advertised.

This is awesome, If I can afford it when the time comes, count me in!

We should have the paypal site and the raffle terms and conditions posted up very soon.  I was planning on video taping the raffle drawing at GP motorcycles when we sell the minimum number of tickets.


Some day this will be him.

Handicap Motorcycle Speed Racer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sVEIu_SG_E&feature=related#normal)

This is incredible and inspirational.  [thumbsup]

count me in

Correct - we raffled the D16RR to benefit a charter school. We were only allowed to recoup our actual costs - NO profits at all. Bike at cost, etc... no markup or anything like that. Not sure how it would work in this situation. There are lots of things to think about such as tax considerations for the money collected for the bike.

Ok, Here are the details.

We will sell 200 tickets for $100 each.  So, your odds of winning are 1 in 200.  I tried to get a couple of shippers to donate shipping in the continental US but I had no takers, so shipping will be the responsibility of the winner, unless the winner is in San Diego in which case I will provide free shipping.  The bike will be on display at GP Motorcycles in San Diego.  The drawing will be held on or before December 31st 2010.  The drawing will be video taped and posted on youtube.  If all 200 tickets are not sold by December 31st, participants will be offered a refund.  The bike has only 3987 miles.  The VIN # is ZD4RKC01XAS000030.  Each ticket will come with a tax deductible receipt from the Can't Keep Me Down foundation.  100% of the proceeds will be donated to Xavier Rigau for expenses not covered by insurance.  Make checks payable to "Can't Keep Me Down" and mail to 3958 corte mar de brisa, san diego, ca 92130.

Here are a couple of pictures:

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/PB088668.jpg)
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/PB088669.jpg)

Glad to see this is actually going to happen.







So if I buy 50 tickets at $5,000 I get a 25% chance... hmmmmm

I'm In. To purchase a ticket do we just send $100 to the paypal account and you will tally who sends it? Or is there something else we need to do? Also, I'm assuming that we send it as a gift/charity donation via paypal, yes? Also, if I were to win, I'm in Tucson, Az (like 6 hours away) can I just come pick it up, or meet you somewhere?

I will be mailing out the tickets and receipts to the names and addresses on the paypal accounts.  I will keep a file of the ticket numbers and the people who purchased them.  If you want to pick it up or arrange to meet me halfway, I can arrange that too.

Those are pretty good odds.  There is no limit on the number of tickets.

This is a 'can't keep me down foundation' thing and I'm sure they've crossed all their Ts and dotted their Is.   

The DMF isn't invloved.

at all.



carry on.

 :)

(we pulled one of these for an individual a year or two ago when it clearly violated federal law)

hey as long as the winner is given the bike and a clean title for $100 as the sale price i'm good with it.  [cheeky]

Ticket purchased!  [thumbsup]

Hope your buddy is doing OK, or at least getting there.  :)

+1.

Is there a website or raffle rules somewhere to reference?  I'm in for a ticket but I don't feel comfortable just sending the money without something to reference.  You can respond to my email on my profile if you'd like.
Thanks

Count me in, an all the best to your friend, SB.

PayPal notified me that they do not allow charitable contributions or raffle sales.  The money collected so far will be fine but going forward we will need to make checks directly payable to the non profit foundation.

So, here is the info.


make checks payable to:
Can't Keep Me Down

mail checks to:
Robert Barry
3958 Corte Mar de Brisa
San Diego, CA 92130

Please include:
name,
address,
email,
phone number

Tickets and tax deductible receipts will be mailed to the address provided.

Website info:
http://cantkeepmedown.org (http://cantkeepmedown.org)

Sent $ via Paypal last night - before your notice above......

Here's hoping your friend is doing better and that  the $$ help him out [thumbsup]

+1

$4500 raised so far.  Tickets are being mailed out today.

 [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

DMF= Devoted Motorcycle Family

64 tickets sold so far.  The guys on supermotojunkie.com are looking to organize a charity track day for $240 that would include 2 free raffle tickets, m1gp mini bikes, bbq, and of course super moto.

i'm in.  $$ will be sent monday

Just opened my envelope with ticket inside......

Hope this works for the beneficiary [thumbsup]

74 sold here so far.  GP Motorcycles sold some more but I don't have the number from them yet.

Come on folks, this is for a good cause and its only a $100 for a 1:200 shot at winning a frickin' Aprilia RSV4!! I picked up my ticket from silentbob in person. And was impressed to see how organized he was with the whole thing.

Now get your damn ticket goddammit, silentbob is trying to help his buddy and fellow moto rider. Go ahead now, I'll wait.

[crosses arms]

[taps toes]


sac

I just posted the info on our local DOC board. Hopefully that sells a few more tickets.  [thumbsup]

My ticket arrived yesterday. SB, I hope your friend is making progress  [thumbsup]

im in, money sent
I wish your friend a speedy recovery.

Hey SB, are there still tickets available?

Yeah, and I'm having trouble finding the link in this thread, can you post it up again, or maybe on the first page so people who are blind like me (not really blind here, I just miss a lot) can find it.

The Doc

Just send silentbob a PM. He will get back to you.

saca

From about 1/2 way down on page 3:

make checks payable to:
Can't Keep Me Down

mail checks to:
Robert Barry
3958 Corte Mar de Brisa
San Diego, CA 92130

Please include:
name,
address,
email,
phone number

Tickets and tax deductible receipts will be mailed to the address provided.

Website info:
http://cantkeepmedown.org (http://cantkeepmedown.org)

Thanks, see I said I knew it was there and I couldn't find it on my own. We all just need a bit of help every now and then, oh , and I was looking for a link so that might also have contributed to my missing it while scanning quickly.

The Doc

110 tickets sold so far.  90 chances left to win.

  If all 200 tickets are not sold by December 31st, participants will be offered a refund.

wait im a little confused.... if all 200 tickets are not sold the bike will still be raffled off. Correct?

We needed to set an end date for people to be able to get their money back.  If all the tickets are not sold by the 31st we will either raffle the bike for less than the 200 tickets or offer a refund to anyone that wants to opt out and continue the raffle for those that want to remain.

but wouldnt your odds be increased if all 200 weren't sold? why would anyone opt out because their probability of winning increased?

not if they extend the date and sell more than 200 tickets

If we extend the date we still wont go beyond 200 tickets.

thx for the clarification. All sounds very fair

how many tickets we at?

I'm trying to work ticket funds for myself. when is the deadline again?

Can I PayPal someone close, since a check from overseas will be impossible.
That someone can enter a check in my name (sort of)?


*SOLVED**

We are closing in on 140 tickets sold so far.  Xavi has decided to end the auction on the 31st and not go any further.  So if you want to get in time is running out and your odds of winning have gone up.  Currently a 1 in 140 chance.

We are planning on holding the drawing at 5pm Dec 31st at GP Motorcycles in San Diego.

Check mailed today for two tickets for Stopintime

Bump for a good cause  [thumbsup]




......and my new bike [moto]

Fixed.

You bought one ticket, right?

I'm 95% 100% sure that my chances are 100% better than your's

 [coffee]

yeah? show your work.  ;D

1/200 = 0.005
2/200 = 0.01

0.01 - 0.005 = 0.005

0.005/0.005 = 1

 [cheeky]

Hey - I was promised there would be no math ;D

Hi Bob,
Just sent the paypal. Thanks. Speedy recovery for your friend.

Fran

I did the paypal because I'm worried with regular mail (being during holiday season), my check won't reach Bob in time.

well, I've been out of the loop and clearly lost track of this thread.  I'm not worried about it being tax friendly, just want to help.  Who do I paypal?  You can pm me if you'd like.
Thanks.

How many tickets left?

At last count I have 2 left and GP has 11.   

Hey rob...... put me down for one of the two you have....... how would you like me to send you the money?

money sent [thumbsup]

This seems to be the season for me to give random money to strangers

If you've still got one left Rob, pm me with how to send you the money.

Money Sent.  [thumbsup]

I'll be down at Disneyland over new years and can pick up the bike then  [laugh]

cool..... then you can drop it off here on your way home ;)

So, you're saying that if you win the bike I can ride it to your house? Thanks man  ;D

i'm not sure i'm comfortable with so many hands on my bike.   [thumbsdown] [moto]

So true, so true!!   [thumbsup]

Wish I had spare $$ to buy a ticket but it's not the case right now. 
Your buddy has a GREAT friend in you!  All the best to him!!

Not entirely sure, but I think I may have purchased the final ticket!  Here's hoping it's the golden one, too! Then its off to the races  [moto]

Any left?

I have one ticket left that is due to be picked up around 5pm.  If it falls through I'll let you know.

Thanks for the tremendous show of support from this board in getting us to our goal.

The raffle will be held at 5pm on Friday at GP motorcycles in San Diego.  The drawing will be video taped and posted on youtube shortly after.

Cool  8) Good job  [thumbsup]

Which time zone? Link here to the YouTube video?

I'll be on the streets of the French Quarter by then. Could you pm me when I win?  ;D

San Diego is in the Pacific Time Zone.

It's past 5pm on the 31st here now, PM me if you want to know who won.  ;)











 ;D

The winner is John Pratt from NY with ticket number 1084.

congrats, John

I hope the $$$ help Xavier [thumbsup]

+1  [beer]

  Schweeeeeeeeet

congrats john pratt from ny [thumbsup]

Just wanted to get the word out that we have a benefit for Xavier - bbq/trackday/fun team race next Jan 8th. Come on down to ride, or just hang out. Good cause, good times. scroll down for flier here:
www.socalsupermoto.com (http://) (http://) (http://)


(http://socalsupermoto.smugmug.com/Other/Fliers/BenefitTrackday/1112418517_7nQbY-L.jpg) (http://socalsupermoto.smugmug.com/Other/Fliers/11172112_vcQXn#1112418517_7nQbY-A-LB)

^^ well that was tacky

sorry could have made this clearer. Trackday is a benefit for xavier, same guy, same good cause.

The place for your post was the SoCal board.

my bad, I'll move it  [thumbsup]

Thanks...

while you're at it it wouldn't hurt to make it look more like charity and less like an ad for yourselves and the other sponsors. ;)

Hey don't jump all over him.  The ad is pretty clear that it is a benefit for Xavi and the guys at supermotojunkie have gone out of their way to do anything they can to help out.

my bad I just saw your user name + 1st post + track day and thought it was someone spamming.  Looks like it should be updated some.

new non spammy ad:

it's $40. there's free bbq and even raffle girls. It's for our paralyzed buddy. I'm donating a pissload of time/money so show the f*ck up  [laugh]

Thanks silentbob, can't wait to get there and just ride. event planning aint my bag. [bang]

I don't believe I did.

I think if you raffle girls you may run into more problems than raffling a bike.  ;D

Also, the poster says raffle tickets available for X's bike. Did the bike get donated back to raffle again?

For a while it looked liked the ape tickets weren't going to sell in time, so we offered to sell em at the benefit.

Still have raffle girls. We've got $10 raffle tickets for donated prizes, ie some astar tech 9's and various other swag. [thumbsup]

How is your friend doing these days?

 [thumbsup]

He is doing as well as can be expected.  The bone grafts in his left arm have healed and he is able to put his full weight on it now.  As a result he has made significant progress in his physical therapy.  He has made a few trips from the facility to his home and is working on doing transfers to and from the car.  The raffle money has gone a long way toward making his home ADA approved and soon he will be back there full time.  I offered to strap him to my back and take him for a ride but he just thinks I am crazy.  Someday he will change his mind (about the ride, not about me being crazy).


Thanks again for all your support.  This place is great!!!

Glad to hear that he's making progress. He's very lucky to have you as a friend.

 [thumbsup]

Just wanted to give you guys a quick update and show you how far Xavi has come thanks to your donations. He also went back to work at his regular job this week.


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Very cool!  Wishing your friend the best.

Awesome!  [thumbsup]

 [thumbsup]  [clap] [clap] [clap]  [thumbsup]

Cheers,
Adam

 [bow_down]   [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Very nice of you to let us know.

Tell him we expect to see more [thumbsup]

Great!!

  [thumbsup]

Go get 'em Xavi!


sac

 [thumbsup]