Ducati Monster Forum

I'm about to powdercoat a bunch of bits and pieces for both my bikes and really want to do the rearsets or footpeg carriers I guess I'd call 'em on the 696,  but have a couple questions:

1. for anyone who's powdercoated them already, does it last or does it rub off where your boots touch when riding? 

2. I looked in the tutorial section, but didn't see one for removing these.  Any tips before I attempt to take them off?  It looks relatively simple, but...   

So, far I have the top triple, the handlebar clamp, the heat shields, exhaust hangers and the headlight surround off the bike ready for powdercoat.  I've considered doing the handlebar, but, then I guess I might as well just replace the bar if I'm going to go through the trouble of taking the controls apart. 

I did my passenger peg mounts. They were down to bare metal quite fast - where my heal touch (size 12 boots)
IMO it doesn't look too bad, but don't expect powder coat to resist boot rubbing.

Make sure all holes are covered - the powder coat makes the holes smaller.
Also, anywhere a powdered part touches anything, you must expect that after some time you'll need to retighten bolts.

Not sure about the 696, but on S*R bikes taking off the rear sets requires that the bike is on a rear stand The kick stand will fall off when the rear sets are removed. Check your bike for a similar issue.

yes the side stand uses the same bolts as the rear set on the left. so you'll need that rearstand
also, there is a pressed in rubber bushing that you'll have to asked the shop about.
all the other rubber bushings come out

Nice timing!  I just pulled off both sides and was about to ask advice on the rubber bushings.  So, all except that pressed in center one should just pull out with a pair of pliers?  And when you say to ask the shop about the pressed in bushing, might it be possible for them to powdercoat with it still in?  For the holes, should/can they be taped off?   Sorry, I'm pretty new to powdercoating.  I've had a bunch of pieces that I wanted to have done for a while now, but this is my first time actually having it done. 

Side note: for a rearsand for these monsters, what tends to be the preferred make/model? 

thanks!

Mine are getting done as we speak. I have the older DSS so there were a total of 8 grommets that I couldn't get out. The powdercoater said that they would probably melt out in the process. I called my local shop and they ordered me some from the factory for 1.99 a pop. Not too bad. I'm curious how easy they are going to be to get in if I couldn't get them out.

I've pced them for people and they all say the same thing about the foot rubbing so i tried to get a thicker coat still no joy. it will eventually rub out. Same with the kickstand. after a while where you boot contacts the kickstand, will rub off as well.

rearstand: for the 696 i bought a local make from a German shop, unless you add spindles you'll need the one with the rubber paddles on it.

for installing the rubber bushing again, use grease and they go in easy.

your shop should be able to tell you what type of tape to use. anywhere where you want to keep the diameter or thickness the same tape it, cause the PC gets thick. i had to clean out several holes after when mine was done.
and yeah it's a question about PCing with the pressed in one. he'll know.

well, all the parts and pieces are at the powdercoaters.  they are going to try to get the 3 rubber bushings out that I couldn't.  Can't wait to get them all back and start putting the bike back together. 

I've had the job done on mine and the rubber parts stayed where they are. They did not melt or get hard. Powdercoating is done with 250° C. That will have no effect. The coating was done last winter and I did 12000 km this summer. There is no obvious wear.

I would love to see pics when you get your 696 put back together.  I am looking to do the exact same thing when I get time off for the holidays.  I would like to hear your opinion about the color as it compares to the frame and the rest of the bike.  Good luck.

I'll definitely post some pics when I get it put back together. 

Here's a picture of my bella. The black is slightly darker than the ducati coating.

http://www.duc-forum.de/jgs_galerie_bild.php?bildid=8616&sid= (http://www.duc-forum.de/jgs_galerie_bild.php?bildid=8616&sid=)

Looks good!  Yes, this is what I expect from mine as well.  The ducati black really isn't black.  It's got a bit of gray in it.  I'm OK with it not all being an exact match on the black though. 

Moschy, those things look a 100 times better.  The shade difference is hardly noticeable and I was looking for it.  How hard was it to take off the headlight shroud?  Nice work.

Getting the lamp shroud off was a 30 min job. The hardest was to get the silver coating off. The guy who did the coating job for me said it had to be bare metal.

the headlight shroud is pretty simple. two bolts on the lower triple, slide it up, remove all the cables, computer, lights etc.

Yeah, it wasn't bad, but it did seem like there were a lot of things to disconnect, bolts to remove in order to get the headlight shroud off.  In comparison, my other bike has a total of 3 bolts.   

Regarding getting down to bare metal.  Moschy, you had to do that yourself?  the shop doing mine is sandblasting as part of the powdercoating service. 

I#m not the biggest fan of sandblasting. It can change the texture of the metal. But I just did the headlight shroud. Footpegs were sandblasted.

OK, I've got all my parts back, in black.   I've put most of the bike back together, but am having a little trouble with the rear brake pedal.  ...specifically getting the spring in the right place.  I'm just not sure where the spring should actually be.  I should have taken more photos of it before taking it apart.   [bang]  I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to shoot a quick photo or 2 and post, of where the spring is on the bike when the assembly is together and working?  thanks!

The non-attached end of the spring goes over the bolt'y thingy which connects the brake master push rod to the break lever/pedal - it has an extra shoulder/groove/recess, I think (?).

EDIT: that is, of course, if the 696 looks like the S*R (didn't notice that before I posted)

(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/brakespring017.jpg)

(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/brakespring016.jpg)

thanks man, unfortunately the 696 spring is not the same as yours.  :( 

No one?  I'm lost.  I feel really dumb.  Everything is back together except this darn right side/rear brake lever.  I just don't see any good place for this spring to go. 

The place for it is shown on the parts catalogue.
Not very clear, but it may help...

http://www.ducati.com/services/maintenance/index.do (http://www.ducati.com/services/maintenance/index.do)

do you have the parts catalog and or repair guide?

yeah, I got it now.  Well, I think I got it! :)   Everything seems to be working correctly.  What a pain in the butt that rear brake set up is.  All the black looks great though!  Wish I could go ride today. 

Good that you solved it  [thumbsup]

Maybe swing by a dealer and have them check it.
If the spring suddenly jumps out of position, it might surprise and disturb you.

about to send my brackets off to powdercoat as well, has anyone had any luck pressing out the larger bushings? I can see the metal ring from the outside that im sure is used to press them in, but I am worried about destroying them by trying to press just the rubber from the other side. 

Moschy, when you did the paint removal on the headlight bracket what did you use? some sort of chemical stripper or did you just sand it down?

Yes, all of my bushings came out and went back in.  No need to replace any of them.  I got most of them out, but the powdercoating shop got the large ones out for me.  I've also been told since that they probably would not have melted had they gone in.  I don't know. 

if the chrome was in good condition (no flaking at all) you can PC right over it after a soft glass bead blasting to give it some texture.



they wont. They dont smoke or anything.