Starting to toy with the idea of picking up a Porsche 911 (newer 996?) and wanted to get a few recommendations for forums where I might pick up some tid bits. Preferably as much like this forum as possible! [thumbsup]
A Porsche forum? This is probably close enough:
http://newbeetle.org/forums/ (http://newbeetle.org/forums/)
Try this one....www.6speedonline.com
Dolph :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/ (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
Thanks guys!
I'm already rethinking my bright idea after an hour of reading!
It might be cheaper to own a shagged out 916 with 100K on the clock.
I thought the Porsches were a little more "reliable" then most other exotics.
I'll keep reading and lurking, you never know. . .
Quote from: GregP on December 15, 2010, 05:56:46 AM
It might be cheaper to own a shagged out 916 with 100K on the clock.
The 916 was a very rare prototype that never went into production. You mean a 914-6?
They are very reliable. Like anything else mechanical there are always a few issues and the internet forums blow things out of proportion. If you are that concerned and it is within budget buy a certified preowned or new. The current preowned warranty mirrors the factory warranty. The IMS issue is not as common as they are made out to be and the RMS issue has been resolved. If you have any questions just ask.
jon
Orangelion03, I'm referring to the oh so reliable Ducati 916 Superbike! [laugh]
Porsche Monkey, I assumed that I'd get the worst case scenario on a forum so I'm half kidding at this point. Thanks for the info and the offer for more.
I've always loved the 911 and I've come to the point I'm starting to feel my mortality and riding a motorcycle on the street has gotten scary, so a a 911 makes perfect sense! [cheeky]
Quote from: Porsche Monkey on December 15, 2010, 10:07:40 AM
They are very reliable. Like anything else mechanical there are always a few issues and the internet forums blow things out of proportion. If you are that concerned and it is within budget buy a certified preowned or new. The current preowned warranty mirrors the factory warranty. The IMS issue is not as common as they are made out to be and the RMS issue has been resolved. If you have any questions just ask.
jon
That coming from a porch fixer, too.
And my FHE...
86K on my 996 and
ZERO mechanical issues. Just normal service and wear - Tires, brakes, oil changes, etc.
Quote from: GregP on December 15, 2010, 11:44:48 AM
Orangelion03, I'm referring to the oh so reliable Ducati 916 Superbike! [laugh]
[clap]
Oh, I'm partial to 993s myself. [thumbsup]
As a point of reference, if all things were as equal as possible, milage, service history, condition, owner, etc., is it safe to say the base model with a manual tranny would be a safer bet then a hooped up S or turbo model or a tiptronic tranny version?
I think I can get buy with the 325HP base model if I absolutely had to.
I'd really like a Cayman S. What's the story with them?
Quote from: Speedbag on December 15, 2010, 03:22:26 PM
I'd really like a Cayman S. What's the story with them?
I've had 13 Porsches including a new Boxster S which was very nice ( and somewhat close to a Cayman ) , even compared to an earlier 993 or 996 but not a Carrera S.
Got to love the sound of the air cooled 911s, especially the '97 w, Motor sound.
The mid engine cars are fun as can be in the handling specture.
All real " Sports Cars " are EXPENSIVE to buy , maintain and definitely repair.
Been there ....spent the $$$$$$$.
Dolph :)
If I had my choice of any new Porsche's it would come down to a Cayman S or a GT3 RS. The Cayman is by far the best handling car out there. Its plenty quick enough too. I wouldn't even look at a regular 911. The Turbo which is sadistic in a straight line is a pig in the corners.
how would a GT3 RS be for a daily driver?
(I don't have nearly enough monies for one, but I often find myself drooling at them on the Porsche website)
Quote from: Le Pirate on December 16, 2010, 08:22:45 AM
how would a GT3 RS be for a daily driver?
(I don't have nearly enough monies for one, but I often find myself drooling at them on the Porsche website)
As long as you have a good relationship with your dentist and don't need your kidneys to function they are great. Oh you'll be replacing those $2000 cup tires every 4 - 6000 miles too.
rennlist.com
Oh Baby, Oh Baby, OH!!!
911 GT2 RS: Driven to Extreme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4NZSHVfobE#normal)
Also really like the Cayman R
Porsche Cayman R Live at LA Auto Show 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S9aZc-9tQY&NR=1&feature=fvwp#normal)
But the Porsche that still tops my list is:
(http://www.flemingsultimategarage.com/galleria_images/962/962_main_l.jpg)
Was once told that 911's are basically $20k cars.
Buy one for $20k, it's ready to go.
Buy one for $15k, need to put $5k in it.
Buy one for $10k, need to put $10k in it.
<slight threadjack, but i had to share this with somebody>
we share a parking lot with a porsche shop
parked next to me this morning
silver boxter with license plate-
LDYSTRD
I think a boxter is a lady's turd too. ;D
Quote from: Speeddog on December 16, 2010, 10:58:49 AM
Was once told that 911's are basically $20k cars.
Buy one for $20k, it's ready to go.
Buy one for $15k, need to put $5k in it.
Buy one for $10k, need to put $10k in it.
[clap] [clap]
My brother has a Boxster S and I love the car. My only beef with the Boxster/Cayman is the fact I can't see the engine. Part of the experience of owning a vehical is the whole mechanical aspect and I feel that that is non-existant with the mid-engine car.
I really like the Cayman as well and spent a little time trolling them this morning.
I could hold off and get the new 1198SP and call it a day!
Quote from: GregP on December 16, 2010, 11:15:09 AM
My only beef with the Boxster/Cayman is the fact I can't see the engine. Part of the experience of owning a vehical is the whole mechanical aspect and I feel that that is non-existant with the mid-engine car.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Red_Ferrari_F430_Spider_engine_hood_closed.JPG/800px-Red_Ferrari_F430_Spider_engine_hood_closed.JPG)
Quote from: derby on December 16, 2010, 11:43:31 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Red_Ferrari_F430_Spider_engine_hood_closed.JPG/800px-Red_Ferrari_F430_Spider_engine_hood_closed.JPG)
That's a whole other ball of wax!! [bow_down]
Quote from: Porsche Monkey on December 16, 2010, 10:35:24 AM
As long as you have a good relationship with your dentist and don't need your kidneys to function they are great. Oh you'll be replacing those $2000 cup tires every 4 - 6000 miles too.
I could live with that ;D
Quote from: Porsche Monkey on December 16, 2010, 05:36:56 AM
If I had my choice of any new Porsche's it would come down to a Cayman S or a GT3 RS. The Cayman is by far the best handling car out there. Its plenty quick enough too. I wouldn't even look at a regular 911. The Turbo which is sadistic in a straight line is a pig in the corners.
But are the Caymans reliable? Any trouble spots? One would think in this day and age they would be as good as anything else....
Based on what I've read, in terms of driving dynamics the Cayman can't be beat for the money. And used ones are certainly affordable.
Yes they are reliable. 2nd gear syncros wear out on the S models if you ham fist it excessively. Not that common though. Don't think we've had an engine out of one yet.
Quote from: Speeddog on December 16, 2010, 10:58:49 AM
Was once told that 911's are basically $20k cars.
Buy one for $20k, it's ready to go.
Buy one for $15k, need to put $5k in it.
Buy one for $10k, need to put $10k in it.
Don't know where that line of thinking eminates from ?
My '05 911 Carrera S cost $113,000 out the door.
Had the $10,000 option yellow Carbon Composit Ceramic Brakes.
$20,000 would likely pay for the interior on that 911 !
Dolph :)
Quote from: DoubleEagle on December 16, 2010, 08:10:25 PM
Don't know where that line of thinking eminates from ?
My '95 911 Carrera S cost $113,000 out the door.
$20,000 would likely pay for the interior on that 911 !
Dolph :)
ebay motors shows two '95 carreras right around $17k...
Quote from: derby on December 16, 2010, 08:47:54 PM
ebay motors shows two '95 carreras right around $17k...
Sorry for that faux pas...'05 911 Carrera S.
Dolph ;D
I'm standing at the parts counter of the Porsche dealership I work at looking at a shop full of them. I've worked at Porsche dealerships for 20+ years now and I'd like to offer my .02.
Buying your first? Cayman S, new if you can afford, lease to see if you like it, certified pre owned if your on the fence.
Buying a keeper car? '96-'98 993, Get a nice clean C2 coupe if you're a bit short on cash but want something you can drive day to day. Splurge for a Turbo if you have some spare coin and want a nice Sunday car that you can do a track day a few times a year. Search out a the elusive Euro Carrera RS if money is no object and you're thinking about the retirement fund or the kids college money somewhere down the road.
Yeah the GT3rs is bad ass and yes you can drive it daily, depending on how long your commute is. Just don't expect to be coddled or arrive in a relaxed state of mind. It's a d16r with a bad attitude and a tequila hang over. But damn if it's fun to play with when they come by…
STAY AWAY from the Cayenne, too heavy. It's a bloated overly electronic truck and go drive a Panamera if you want to see what it's like to hustle in a tank, but forget owning one, way too ugly and it's nothing but a poorly running Windows PC with 4 doors… and no rearward visibility.
Jimi
Quote from: DoubleEagle on December 16, 2010, 08:10:25 PM
Don't know where that line of thinking eminates from ?
My '05 911 Carrera S cost $113,000 out the door.
Had the $10,000 option yellow Carbon Composit Ceramic Brakes.
$20,000 would likely pay for the interior on that 911 !
Dolph :)
IIRC, that "$20k" info was in regards to early 911's....60's and 70's cars.
Quote from: wantingaduc on December 17, 2010, 09:50:21 AM
STAY AWAY from the Cayenne, too heavy. It's a bloated overly electronic truck and go drive a Panamera if you want to see what it's like to hustle in a tank, but forget owning one, way too ugly and it's nothing but a poorly running Windows PC with 4 doors… and no rearward visibility.
IMO, the Cayenne and Panamera are Porsches in name only....
Quote from: Speedbag on December 17, 2010, 11:39:15 AM
IMO, the Cayenne and Panamera are Porsches in name only....
And for people who only care about the name on the vehicle they drive, then that is simply perfect.
What percentage of the Porsche Owners actually
drive their cars, track, mountains, or otherwise, in your opinions?
My '98 Boxster may not be 300+ hp strong (heck, not even 200 at this point in time), and doesn't have DFI tech goodness, but from the moment I fire up that engine (nearly 100k), and release that clutch, to the moment I back it into the garage at the end of the day, my day is nothing more than a stream of corners, stringed together by the music behind my head, and a smile that lasts long after 9 quarts of oil has drained back into the sump.
As for the person who said that they don't like mid engine cars because you can't see the motor, how many front engined cars are out there that you can you see the engine while driving?
Unless you're just talking about popping the hood to see the naughty bits that make things go. Its really not that bad getting access to the Boxster engine. Maybe 5 to 10 minutes worth of work?
BC.
Quote from: wantingaduc on December 17, 2010, 09:50:21 AM
STAY AWAY from the Cayenne, too heavy. It's a bloated overly electronic truck and go drive a Panamera if you want to see what it's like to hustle in a tank, but forget owning one, way too ugly and it's nothing but a poorly running Windows PC with 4 doors… and no rearward visibility.
Jimi
The Panamera is a really nice car to be a passenger in I felt though and I don't find the looks that offensive plus I'm jackass enough that since it's a hatchback, it would be put to the task of carrying a large object at some point that barely fits if I owned one.