Title: advice on luggage Post by: Jabberwocky on January 01, 2011, 09:11:52 AM I recently started to commute to work on my Monster, at the moment I am using a rucksack which is not helpfull for visibility (when it is full I find it difficult to twist round.)
I thought about getting a Givvi top box but the shop could not find one that would fit my Monster (2007 695.) Since then I have received advice from a friend that I could get a tank bag or even a seat bag, he is the one that introduced me to this forum and suggested I post a message to see if anyone has any advice. I do not need to carry much (lap top, notebook, sometimes a gym kit.) Any advice would be welcome. Many thanks Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: Billyzoom on January 01, 2011, 10:39:53 AM Hey...
I'm assuming by rucksack you mean backpack...haven't heard that term in a while... ;) Despite that, I'd really recommend a good backpack. I have one that's designed for carryiing a laptop, so it has padding for the computer, etc. If you're having trouble turning your head with one, I'd say you may need to try a different one. I have no such trouble even when mine is loaded. I like this for several reasons: It doesn't affect the lines of the bike, it doesn't risk damaging paint, I can get a backpack with high visibility without having to wear a dorky vest or something, if I crash I assume it may help just a tad with absorbing some force before ripping away, and it doesn't affect the lines of the bike. Finally, it doesn't affect the lines of the bike. ;D Joel Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: stopintime on January 01, 2011, 11:11:32 AM What you plan to carry is actually quite a lot on a Monster, so it would mean
a large bag. Of course it's not really a large bag, but on a Monster it will take valuable space from you and your riding. The worst part of a bag is that it will be a hassle to take off/put on at least twice a day. AFAIK, there are no click-click bags for Monsters. So, +1 for a backpack when we're talking about a daily routine. Kriega is a favourite for many. http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34411.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=34411.0) http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3961.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3961.0) http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=11593.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=11593.0) If you decide that a backpack is out of the question - take a look at Ventura http://www.ventura-bike.com/fitments.aspx?modelid=161 (http://www.ventura-bike.com/fitments.aspx?modelid=161) Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: Jabberwocky on January 01, 2011, 12:44:57 PM Thanks for the advice, I have read all the threads on Kriega and I think that is the way to go (I was using just a standard cheap back pack hence why it was so uncomfortable!)
Many thanks ;D Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: muskrat on January 01, 2011, 03:30:28 PM OGIO is what I have and it's nice for a more "reasonable" price http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/6461/Exhaust/6461.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/6461/Exhaust/6461.html)
Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on January 01, 2011, 03:33:44 PM da kine has some fantastic lifetime warranty, waterproof, rip proof, laptop padded backpacks in a variety of profiles that are pretty great. also cheap at ~45-90$.
chrome has some shoulderbags that could do the job, but I hear that their iconic seat belt buckle strap can be a PITA with a full face helmet. cost about 160-200$ I use a custom made shoulderbag by blackstar bags here in portland that is the best bag ive ever had (and ive had ALOT). after a ~35mph high side that had me sliding ON THE BAG for about 15 feet the thing still looks brand new. If you have about a month or two and want something that will last a decade+ and be made to your exact needs I would absolutely give them a call. price is very close to chrome bags (maybe 30-40$ more but may be cheaper depending on what pockets/custom work you want) Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: sbrguy on January 01, 2011, 03:53:12 PM i would say the chrome bags with the seat buckle make it EASIER with a helmet on.
afterall when you want to take the bag off you just undo the seat buckle with a button, no taking off over the helmet, and putting back on is just as easy, no need to take or put on your full face helmet. same thing with a bicycle helmet on. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on January 01, 2011, 04:07:12 PM in that aspect they are awesome, what I hear is that the roughly 1 1/2" thick buckle sometimes gets between the helmet and shoulder/collarbone area and limits your head motion. it may have been from people wearing it incorrectly, cant say I have any FHE with them.
the blackstar bag uses a similar strap but has a heavey duty plastic buckle that is much thinner. it also has 2 D rings that tighten and loosen the strap easily and a cross strap to keep it moving around that can attach at two different points. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: Charlief on January 02, 2011, 07:24:16 AM I have one of these. Sits on a base attached to the gas cap ring and doesn't touch the paint. Easy to mount and take off in seconds. Mine is the Daypak ll and is perfect for holding the small things and my lunch for work.
Check out the site for sizes http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productlist/451/ (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productlist/451/) Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: zooom on January 03, 2011, 06:59:29 AM my vote would be for the Ventura Rack system...even if you only get the J bars and the Sport Rack and then attach your choice of tailbags to that rack without any issue...I used to keep a Tour Master Sport Pack attached to mine- which had more room than the Sportpack that Ventura markets, but less than their big hulking p135/p145 bags which can be a visual block if you had to crane your head all the way around to see or something...
I know mine is a more elaborate and expensive solution....but it gives you more freedom in the end and keeps any bags OFF your pipes and bodywork while still allowing you to have 2-up abilities and freedoms and keeping you from generally kicking your tailbag that is attached to the pillion portion of the seat when mounting/dismounting your steed. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: eyduc on January 03, 2011, 08:29:25 AM I'm thinking of the Ventura system too. It looks like the L-Brackets are used for both the PackRack and the SportRack but it's not clear. Do you know if the L-Brackets are needed for the SportRack too? The L-Brackets look to clamp to the grabrail frames. Anyone with FHE with it?
(http://www.ventura-mca.com/images/models/202.jpg) On second check, it looks like it may interfere with a TailChop and the turnsignals. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: emanon on January 03, 2011, 08:36:52 AM I had this same problem, instead of adding bags to my monster and altering the aesthetic, I bought a 2000 Buell S3T (comes with saddle bags) for cheap off of craigslist.
Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: Jarvicious on January 03, 2011, 08:45:41 AM I have one of these. Sits on a base attached to the gas cap ring and doesn't touch the paint. Easy to mount and take off in seconds. Mine is the Daypak ll and is perfect for holding the small things and my lunch for work. Check out the site for sizes http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productlist/451/ (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productlist/451/) I'm really impressed with those Bags Connection bags. At first look they look a touch overpriced, but for what you get it's really not all that bad. As for the rear end, the old hard bags off my BMW are getting rigged up :) Build report to follow. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: slowkitty on January 03, 2011, 04:28:43 PM My pick will be a simple backpack that you strap onto the bike using ROK straps. An alternative is a magnetic tank bag (assuming metal tank here) that you can rest on at lights too :)
Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: Jumptship on January 03, 2011, 10:11:11 PM I'm thinking of the Ventura system too. It looks like the L-Brackets are used for both the PackRack and the SportRack but it's not clear. Do you know if the L-Brackets are needed for the SportRack too? The L-Brackets look to clamp to the grabrail frames. Anyone with FHE with it? On second check, it looks like it may interfere with a TailChop and the turnsignals. I have the Ventura system for mine. Works great! Easy to install L-brackets (about 20 minutes after doing it once or twice). You are correct the right L-bracket secures to the grab rail but the left L-bracket attaches to the subframe under the left frame cover. The same L-brackets are used regardless of rack installed, easy to slip one off to install the other. Normally, I carry the small rack with me on trips for carrying (cough) supplies...LOL I also chopped the tail recently but have the integrated tail light so blinkers weren't an issue. I am sure you could come up with an alternative if you wanted to retain blinkers you would just have to have the brackets installed while measuring to get it right. PM me if you would like a pic with the system installed. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: sbrguy on January 03, 2011, 10:58:10 PM in that aspect they are awesome, what I hear is that the roughly 1 1/2" thick buckle sometimes gets between the helmet and shoulder/collarbone area and limits your head motion. it may have been from people wearing it incorrectly, cant say I have any FHE with them. the blackstar bag uses a similar strap but has a heavey duty plastic buckle that is much thinner. it also has 2 D rings that tighten and loosen the strap easily and a cross strap to keep it moving around that can attach at two different points. the thing is you have to wear the bag with the buckle in the middle of your chest, if it moves too much then yes you have problems the way to avoid this to some extent is to use the secondary strap that holds the main strap on your chest, its not perfect and if you load the bag very full and heavy nothign will stop the buckle from riding up toward your shoulder. the better bet is to get one of the rolltop bags from chrome (i have the one called the Ivan model), they are waterrproof, hold a litltle less but are extremely stable, as they are a backpack configuration and have both a waiste strap and buckle system and also a chest strap that holds the two shoulder straps in place, in a word once this thing is cinched down its not moving no matter how fast you go, the tough part is when you need to take it off you have to undo all of this. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: eyduc on January 04, 2011, 06:30:41 AM Has anybody made a custom bracket to mount a Givi or similar hard bag? I read somewhere that a Givi type bag was made for Ducs. What was it called? I had a Givi top case before and I loved it. I prefer hardbags for touring or long road trips. They are lockable, water tight and easily removable.
Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: stopintime on January 04, 2011, 06:39:47 AM http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2844/658/ (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2844/658/) Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: eyduc on January 04, 2011, 06:45:18 AM I know about that rack but it is only one side and mounts soft bags. I'm thinking something like this but a smaller topcase:
(http://www.twistedthrottle.com/ezimagecatalogue/catalogue/variations/10935-425x350.jpg) It would be nice if they made one for earlier Monsters. I think the company that made Givi like bags for Ducati was Nonfango. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: stopintime on January 04, 2011, 06:52:08 AM My friend's tail chopped Monster has a custom made top case mount. (sorry, no pictures)
It's basically two tubes going into the frame tubes at their end, then bend upward/forward and attach to a top case tray. Secured by set screws through the frame tube ends. Title: Re: advice on luggage Post by: dropstharockalot on January 04, 2011, 07:13:39 AM If you're not dead set on hard luggage, I've had good luck with a Cortect sport tailbag. I didn't like commuting with a backpack either so I switched to the tailbag. The rubber underguard has yet to scratch my seat cowl and the bungees and plastic hooks haven't rubbed my frame or peg hangers. Since everything is removable, there's no worrys about altering the looks. It's also not to bad looking when it's on, either, imo.
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