Ducati Monster Forum

okay, so I love my monster. let me make that abundantly clear. if there is any doubt, read my introductory post. that said, I have a unique opportunity: a family member has offered me their 1999 Supersport 900. its got less than 4k miles on the od and is in SPOTLESS condition. the engine is gleaming and its got a set of fast by feracci carbon slip ons. in fact, this bike can be seen in the background of the fotos in the previously mentioned post.
now th@ I have this option, when I look @ the Supersport, can any one guess what i'm thinking? i'm seeing the full fairing removed, maybe a belly fairing in its place, some cyclecat clip ons, bar end signals and mirrors, rounded off gas tank, grafted tail-section, underseat exhaust.....basically i'd love to make a frankenstein monster out of it!  am I crazy? I must be. but back to reality; unless anyone can convince otherwise i'm thinking i'll be keeping my monster. but then again....
so, has anyone else felt the urge to undo what is argueably Pierre Terblache's greatest accomplishment and monsterize a Ducati Supersport? if so, I need to see picrures. this is serious. i'm literally losing sleep over this. i'm a sick, sick, man... or am I?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/ducati%20naked%20supersport%20ss/roadracemotorsports2/Duci2001.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/ducati%20naked%20supersport%20ss/roadracemotorsports2/Duci2001.jpg)

don't know why the pic link failed.  you should be able to click thru tho.

(http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr106/roadracemotorsports2/Duci2001.jpg)

I would not do that to a Super Sport in such good condition.  Look for a rat.

1st...that is far from PT's greatest accomplishment...so I hope that was sarcasm...

2nd...it is a tradegy to do something like that to a pristine and clean machine....wreck it 1st and do it or find a rat bike to do that too

3rd...yes, it has been done on a few occasions...everyone's eye for what the end result is or should be ends up being different...

4th...why would you be getting rid of the Monster? SS in addition to Monster = YES! SS in place of Monster = WTF/NO ....but that is my humble opinion...

"has anyone monsterized a supersport?"

I challenge you to come up with a mod that hasn't been do to either of these bikes!!   [popcorn]



+1

That SS bike's a POS and an embarrasment to ride....but, I'll take it off your hands for $500  ;D

...and look what I just found:(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y367/Rawr2001/96Ducati900Supersport.jpg)
this is about as close an example of my own vision I was able to find. rilly digging the rake. not feeling the chrome headlight, or the monposto (is th@ rite?) but yeah, i guess th@ would be a pretty effed up thing to do to such a pristine specimen. but, god, it would be fun!  [evil]
anyone got a shattered 888, 916, or supersport.....cheap? (very cheap)

to each his own.. if you do that to any Ducati, it's no longer a sportbike.  that rake makes the bike handle very weird if you are in the original rider position and there's no reason to have an extended swingarm on any bike with that weight:hp ratio.

i might be equally impressed if someone just took a pristine SS and took a dump on it..

^^^^ +1

the rake and extended swingarm weren't on the menu, but even if they were you've just talked me out of them. I do like the tail tho (but not the seat) and the cleaned up front end, but those are aestheic matters and as such subject to personal tastes. your machine is far superior IMHO in every other respect. why f with the geometry, unless ur improving the performance and handling, rite?

I've seen a few naked SS and SBKs that looked nice.  The problem with the SBK is that there is a lot of hoses and wires hidden underneath that fairing, but the SS didn't have all that.  You are left with figuring out what to do with the cockpit, which has the subframe for the fairing and gages.  Throw it all out, reduce the wiring and use a different tach/speedo and you might have something.  I have some other pics at home, I'll post them when I can.

No one has done it on the later model SS though that I have seen-- I mean, I am sure its been done, I just haven't seen it.

This is absolutely my favorite naked sport bike conversion ever.
Guy had it for sale here in Germany when I was looking for a possible replacement of my bike after I wrecked it.

(http://img9.werkenntwen.de/photo14/2c448d854b56a7dbe79fb09ccce5d1d3/h/o/ho7cwzzdf44csangckrpwj3ae3w.jpg)
(http://img2.werkenntwen.de/photo14/2c448d854b56a7dbe79fb09ccce5d1d3/0/7/070y1449c9pli3vica3nde4of3j.jpg)
(http://img2.werkenntwen.de/photo14/2c448d854b56a7dbe79fb09ccce5d1d3/9/h/9hdwo901z7gageu6wkhoe8mnm2k.jpg)

plus I love Gulf racing colors.

The wide bars look a little odd with the front fairing, but I do love the Gulf colours!

Made by Lazareth in France


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hKkYZ9GWzKA/SYhUzTepKRI/AAAAAAAABOw/aK3lvMxNTmg/s1600-h/lazareth_ducati_sport1000-2.bmp (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hKkYZ9GWzKA/SYhUzTepKRI/AAAAAAAABOw/aK3lvMxNTmg/s1600-h/lazareth_ducati_sport1000-2.bmp)

i don't like the tail (out of proportion) and the oil cooler
but the rest is decent

(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/022/6/4/That_makes_me_Moist_by_moistplz.jpg)

agreed. I woulda kept the original oil cooler and done something like a biposto and cowl. the exhuast is....neh. the pipes are fine, its those.....trumpets. I love the profile and the front end looks much cleaner. I like clip ons tho, but th@'s jus me.

It can be done and sometimes it works out pretty well, like this one (http://wrenchmonkees.com/monkee20.html) (IMHO).

(http://wrenchmonkees.com/images/monkee20_10.jpg)

The risks are that you might end up botching the job or just getting tired of it and finding yourself with an old hooker (nasty as $#!T and you gotta pay people to ride it). And there's plenty of these around, and you see people asking ridiculous amounts of money for them...

Personally I'd keep the SS as a track/weekend fun bike and play with the monster. If you really really really want to mod the SS, then I'd suggest doing some research to find the design that makes you really  [drool] and then sticking to it! [thumbsup]

THAT is a thing of beauty!!

FYI that's a mid-90s SS.  I think the looks will be harder with a post 98 model.

but looks like exactly what i said to do...

check out RadicalDucati.com as they are lately making use of old ST2 (watercoolers) and putting new tanks/seatcowls on them and building something rather trick looking.  ST2's are cheap! Just slap an S2R swingarm setup on there for the singlesided look.

I think all ST2 are also pre-immobilizer setup. (the ones I've dealt with were easy to swap gauges and used factory ECU)

I thought a DMF vendor on the list screen (<----) is carrying the parts now for the USA? (or did someone post there is a USA vendor elsewhere instead?)  No clue what the cost or quality is -- but it's definitely a viable alternative for a Ducati project that could be put together in ones garage without major fabrication required.

FWIW: Old SS tanks (91-98) can be easily swapped over to the efi fuel pump should anything become of a '99&up SS project bike.

hmmmm .. i always liked the ST2 lump...

if you mange to find and molest an 888, please DON'T post pictures.  get an old brit bike or
a CB750 and have at it.

+1.   please don't harm a supersport. if you want to take one and do something to it, beef up the triples/forks with SBK specimens, overhaul the suspension and brake components (especially if you have a CR), and enjoy how well it does what it was designed to do.


"Monsterizing" an 851/888/955 has already been done. In the early 90's. Its called the Monster. A modified 888 frame, SS motor, and a top mount handlebar.

If you are looking to have a sportier Monster (like a "monsterized ss" or "monsterized 888:916"), take a regular Monster, and put on clipons/rearsets and perhaps a SBK or SS or CA-Cycleworks tank on it. Voila. Monsterized/Superized. If you want the SBK power, start with an S4/S4R/S4RS/t/SF

wow; we're having fun now! lots of good ideas and advice. tank swap sounz interesting. rearsets too. I have LSL clip ons, but just for giggles i've been thinkin of SBK switches and such when i do my grips. any ideas?

back on topic tho. I personally am kinda lovin' this one:
(http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y367/Rawr2001/monkee20_10-1.jpg)

if anyone REALLY wants to save the SS, it is looking for a new home. owner is awaiting delivery of a 2007 SS 1000. let me know.

so you have one or not?

as far as i am concerned, any SS is fair game to be customized provided you do a good job with it.  the 888 or 916 are different, they are practically museum pieces.

i think the suggestion to pick up an ST2 is a good one, the 900cc powerplant in that bike is very nice, more hp out of the box than the air cooled version

the SS belongs to my dad. coulda been mine, but I opted for the monster. its for sale now and I got dibs, but can't afford both. thats where all these crazy ideas materialized. I'm going to a motorcycle tech program next year so I could in theory ride the SS as is, bang it up a bit, then go crazy with it, as one post suggested. with school loans and the school's resources i'd have me one helluva winter project! but I love my monster and like I said, can't afford both so I guess the point is moot. 
 
the ST sounz like a good idea. Im sure some1 wont agree, but id whack one of those in any condition. isnt the term "sport touring" kind of an oxymoron? 
as far as "doing" an 888 (as if) or 916, how bout a twisted frame and a random motor/trans.

personally, i would never monsterize an SS or SBK since there are Monsters already

But, since there is no current SS I would SS a Monster (kinda what i'm doing already)

do not use your loan money for motorcycle parts.

I know people love the post 99 SS, but anything you can do to that bike that makes it look better is ok by me.

i.e.

(http://blog.customzone.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lazareth-ducati-1000-miles_0009.jpg)

I knowvschool loans are for books, tools, tuition, etc. but i would be working too and the extra $ would allow me to spend more of my own money on parts. Either that or controlled substances, but i'm going on 7 years clean so parts it is!

you should not take the loan money then. don't risk a financial bind or have to finance things with interest that you don't need!  just a terrible idea financially.

Bikes are bad investments and spending borrowed money on modding a bike is probably down near the bottom of bad ideas.

imagine if you bin it into somebody's yard to the point it looks like you are setting up a yardsale...and are paying interest on stuff you didn't need. eegadz

I started out with the idea of modding the 99 SS. maybe i'm wrong, but looking at the pics provided upto now, the lines of the 99 SS's frame don't seem to work as well. enyways, i'm lovin the way the tank lies flat along the frame. It just looks clean. Someone suggested a SS or SBK tank on a monster frame and I like the idea, but im having a hard time envisioning it. anyone got any pics?

*as for the other issue, ok,ok, ok, the horse is dead. Honestly i was half joking about the loan$. Last i checked i was elligable for a grant as well. Regardless, there's likely gonna be only a few pennies left after tools and tuition. Any extra $ i made would be from extra hours worked. I know there are unforseen expenses with any project, but if i were to follow my original formula, this is more of a subtraction problem than one of addition. The majority of the expenses i would likely incur would be for things i would have to send parts out to have done, but most votechs have those resources on campus. Also, many tech programs allow or encourage students to bring bring in a project at some point, so there is that. This is all a big giant hypoyhetical what if.

For the record, an ST2 is 944 cc's, liquid cooled and has NASTY camshafts.

what do you use to clean them?


(just kidding.. Chris Kelley used them in a 900ss engine... I've been trying to find a pair... )

go buy an ST2. there are some in it.

oh look!  a bird!

where?

(http://gifs.gifmania.hk/Animated-Gifs-Looney-Tunes/Animations-Sylvester/sylvester11.gif)

http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/mtt43/ (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/mtt43/)

go with this...nuff said...K.I.S.S.

I did some more looking around (btw radical duc produces some amazing machines!). I still dont see how SBK or SS tank would mate with a Monster frame. I havnt lookt at those aftermkt pcs yet tho. But I have lookt a little more carefully at the ST2 with an objective eye. I am curious how the ST2 tank would look on the Monster. Can it be done in such a way as to retain the existing seat and cowl?

it certainly wouldn't be straightforward. If you were looking for something that would bolt up, that would definitely not happen.

here!

(http://images.artnet.de/artwork_images//113308/150355.jpg)

i like that guy.

(http://www.johnnycashstore.com/media/memorabilia/large/jc118084.jpg)

somebody lend me $6k.

Carbeuretted Monsters have the electric fuel sender- keep that in mind. I don't know how that would work with the Monster.