After having been an ubuntu fanatic for 5+ years, I decided I wanted something more stable, so I looked around and found RHEL / CentOS / Fedora.
Red Hat Enterprise Linux is what Dell licenses with their real servers. CentOS is basically the RHEL "beta" that the community uses. And Fedora is the desktop variant of the other 2. I'm very impressed with these. I started with Fusion linux (http://fusionlinux.org/), and it installed without much of a hitch. (ends up I sometimes have to ctrl-alt-backspace to get the login screen) Very smooth, youtube works as delivered. So when I had to redo a server at work, I used CentOS. It's not a "turn-key" as ubuntu, but it just feels better.
If you're using ubuntu and love it but sometimes wish for something even more stable, give these a go.
:) Chris
I used red hat many moons ago but I just found that all it was good for was web surfing and email. What I did like was that the machine would run for Months on end and never need to be rebooted, unlike windows 98 which sometimes needed rebooting several times a day.
What are you guys talking about? ;D
I'm talking about making a "Pipe" from Redhat to the DMF. That way If I get to engrossed in what I'm doing over there it will dump me out into the DMF directory. ;D
(http://www.redhat.com/g/chrome/logo_rh_home.png)
Quote from: chris on January 28, 2011, 01:29:13 PM
CentOS is basically the RHEL "beta" that the community uses.
it's not really a "beta"... it's more like a community-supported OS built from the RHEL source w/o any of the redhat branding or support/software updates.
For anyone that cares, and hasn't already figured it out the DMF server runs on CentOS 5
chugga chugga...chugga chugga.....
I ran red hat from 1996-1998 as a cfd machine ... Fortran code development
And execution. Ran without a hitch that entire time until some pre pubescent
Ass-f*ck hacked into it and completely filled the memory.
No complaints except for the security. It's probably better now.
Neato. I used RH back in the day at work as our first web/mail server, and our first thin client server. Then I found Debian and its derivatives and got addicted to apt-get. ;) Now I use Debian for servers, Ubuntu for desktops, and OpenBSD for firewalls. Though I'm getting annoyed with some of the decisions the Ubuntu devs are making lately, and I'm thinking of trying out Linux Mint.
I'd be running linux exclusively if i didn't have an issue with compressed textures in Wine :( Arch/Debian/Ubuntu are my favorite flavors
I wanna try Linux on my ny desktop.. good source for it? Ive never used it before but always wanted to. I got this desktop as a tip with a quadcore.. picked up a 1T drive and might pick up more ram soon.. what's a good antivirus and firewall for linux?
My limited experience with linux is that you don't need any av software. Nobody really bothers when windoz is so common and exploitable. . .
an ti vi rus ??
Doesn't really need one :)
Regarding a firewall...
I never use one on the computers inside my network. I rely on multiple NAT layers from an ISP router and my personal WRT54G with tomato (http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato). Good browsing habits from years of experience repairing malware infested computers puts me at a distinct advantage over most computer users tho :p
LOL. I read that as "explodable".
Yeah, I've never bothered with any sort of antivirus/spyware software on desktop Linux. Been a user for 10+ years at work & home and have never had a problem. Let's hope I'm not speaking too soon!
Ubuntu would probably be a good distro for someone new to Linux. It's geared to being fairly user-friendly and there's a large community of users, so it's easier to find help with problems. I've read that Linux Mint is spiffy (it's based on Debian & Ubuntu, but they preinstall a lot of popular software such as flash and audio/video codecs that aren't installed by default in either of those) but I haven't tried it yet. One of the awesome things about Linux is that if you don't like one version, there are a multitude of other versions to try.
I've been a linux nerd for 3 years now, much prefer it for day to day. have a netbook that tri boots ubuntu 10.10, OSX and W7...only very rare situations find me booting into W7.
Antivirus isn't necessary with Linux, I love that it's steamlined and a very lightweight OS with tons of add ons...a fav of mine is cairodock which adds a very osx like dock...makes for very efficient navigation.
Quote from: cokey on January 31, 2011, 10:54:31 AM
I wanna try Linux on my ny desktop.. good source for it?
http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download (http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download)
You can boot from the CD and play around without risking your existing Windows installation. It's a good way to check that it's got drivers for your hardware.
Thanks.. the hd I have is a virgin. So shld I partition it with say w7 n then load the other?
the ubuntu installer will partition your drive for you. if you want to dual boot, install w7 first as ubuntu is friendlier being installed second.
EDIT: if you do want to dual boot heres a good tutorial http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony (http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony) :)
Quote from: ahks on January 31, 2011, 07:59:35 PM
the ubuntu installer will partition your drive for you. if you want to dual boot, install w7 first as ubuntu is friendlier being installed second.
+1 Ubuntu makes it crazy easy
Been a Linux user since the 90s and tried quite a few flavors of the OS. Been running Ubuntu on my laptops since 2005 and have never looked back. I've been wanting to test out and play with some of the new offerings out there but have been too lazy and since I am happy with the way everything is running haven't really felt the need to do so.
Been doing some research into putting together a Linux-based Media Server recently and I think I may be installing Mythbuntu onto it. Has anybody else set up a Linux Media Server? How is yours setup?
Pm r00tchick
We have a mythbuntu media center and its bad ass! Like tivo but free ;)
Quote from: Mojo S2R on January 31, 2011, 10:41:43 PM
Been doing some research into putting together a Linux-based Media Server recently and I think I may be installing Mythbuntu onto it. Has anybody else set up a Linux Media Server? How is yours setup?
Yep, I built one a few years ago using Mythbuntu. Just do your homework when deciding on your tuner card(s) and get as much hard drive space as you can afford. I originally had 400 gb and it wasn't nearly enough, kept having to delete stuff. But now 2TB drives are reasonable so that shouldn't be too hard. :)
No lie. This article says that 2TB drives are expected to be as cheap as $50 this year: http://money.msn.com/saving-money/article.aspx?post=6bbf06f4-2701-4d76-b934-eacecdb7bbe9>1=33021 (http://money.msn.com/saving-money/article.aspx?post=6bbf06f4-2701-4d76-b934-eacecdb7bbe9>1=33021)
Woohoo! Can't wait to get back home and get started on this project. [thumbsup]
Check out www.pendrivelinux.com (//http://)
Alll kinds of fantastic guides on getting linux on a USB stick and installing it. I do this most of the time now when I want to do a new install. I've got 4 or 5 USB sticks running around and I don't need to go find the CD-R spool, go to a computer with a CD-drive, etc etc. USB + linux has practically made cd's obsolete in my reality.
+1 for linux mint.
Also, if you install www.fusionlinux.org (//http://) it is a Fedora 14 remix that has flash already working. SE Linux is enabled (and firewall) by default. SE linux was developed by NASA, so on the sidewalk of the info highway, it's like driving an armored personnel carrier...
We're migrating to fusion linux here at work. It feels more stable than ubuntu and is for the most part, turn key. Granted, ANY problem you could ever have in ubuntu has 3 or 4 full pages of fixes in google... but anything going on in Fedora is more of a "normal linux situation" and not an ubuntu "feature".
:D Chris
Quote from: chris on February 02, 2011, 01:06:13 PM
SE Linux is enabled (and firewall) by default. SE linux was developed by NASA, so on the sidewalk of the info highway, it's like driving an armored personnel carrier...
you mean the NSA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency). ;D
Yeah, sure same diff. :)
I was playing with ubuntu on CD last night on my old laptop. What would the odds be of finding a linux for a Linksys WPC54G Wireless-G Notebook Adapter pcmcia Card and it working? I am hesitating doing a full install if I can't get the wireless to work.
mitt
Quote from: mitt on February 02, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
I was playing with ubuntu on CD last night on my old laptop. What would the odds be of finding a linux for a Linksys WPC54G Wireless-G Notebook Adapter pcmcia Card and it working? I am hesitating doing a full install if I can't get the wireless to work.
mitt
http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/softwarenotice (http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/softwarenotice)
I am using Yggdrasil with kernel 1.2. Very stable. Wrote my own 64bit Windows VOS. I ported it all to an 8way HyperSparc, I have a 50k btu air conditioner just to cool it.
Quote from: ducatiz on February 02, 2011, 06:40:58 PMI am using Yggdrasil with kernel 1.2. Very stable. Wrote my own 64bit Windows VOS. I ported it all to an 8way HyperSparc, I have a 50k btu air conditioner just to cool it.
What a geek ;) But srsly. Sound really awesome.
Quote from: ducatiz on February 02, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
I am using Yggdrasil with kernel 1.2. Very stable. Wrote my own 64bit Windows VOS. I ported it all to an 8way HyperSparc, I have a 50k btu air conditioner just to cool it.
Wow! droools. I wonder how many PPD that would get Folding@Home... >:)
I pray you know I was kidding. I still have a CD with Yggdrasil on it, but sold off all my Sparc stuff years ago...
Quote from: mitt on February 02, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
I was playing with ubuntu on CD last night on my old laptop. What would the odds be of finding a linux for a Linksys WPC54G Wireless-G Notebook Adapter pcmcia Card and it working?
If your BIOS supports it, booting from a flash drive should allow you to install drivers. Google seemed to have a lot of answers for Ubuntu in general and your wireless card, but it may depend on the distro and version.
I have been running Ubuntu 10 LTS for about the last nine months, and the experience has been pretty good overall. I wish ATI still developed drivers for my video card, and that 64-bit flash was not a double-experimental alpha release. But it is very good for the money...
Quote from: ducatiz on February 02, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
I am using Yggdrasil with kernel 1.2. Very stable. Wrote my own 64bit Windows VOS. I ported it all to an 8way HyperSparc, I have a 50k btu air conditioner just to cool it.
[bow_down]
Quote from: r00tchick on February 05, 2011, 05:05:25 AM
[bow_down]
Lol. Just finished reading and saw that you were kidding. I have a 3u air conditioner in my server room. :)
I wasn't aware that Linux geeks kidded about anything. ???
I am not a linux geek per se, but here goes a linux/nerd joke:
There are 10 types of people in the world. And if you don't understand that 10 is 2 in binary, you're stupid and you should go install a debilitating virus on your shitty windows PC.
See? Sense of humor ;D
Quote from: il d00d on February 05, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
I am not a linux geek per se, but here goes a linux/nerd joke:
There are 10 types of people in the world. And if you don't understand that 10 is 2 in binary, you're stupid and you should go install a debilitating virus on your shitty windows PC.
See? Sense of humor ;D
I loled actually
Quote from: il d00d on February 05, 2011, 09:54:04 AM
I am not a linux geek per se, but here goes a linux/nerd joke:
There are 10 types of people in the world. And if you don't understand that 10 is 2 in binary, you're stupid and you should go install a debilitating virus on your shitty windows PC.
See? Sense of humor ;D
I don't think it's funny, but I can think of several people that share that same sense of humor.
Windows: A 64-bit/32-bit extension to a 16-bit GUI on an 8-bit OS written for a 4-bit architecture by a 2-bit company who can not stand 1-bit of competition.
I think it's appropriate to post this here:
http://www.rootninja.com/chuck-norris/ (http://www.rootninja.com/chuck-norris/)
Chuck Norris Linux.
[laugh]
(http://www.wsmcbbs.info/images/smilies/anim_rofl2.gif)
bwahahahahaha! thx r00tchick!!
omg, i've reinstalled our ecommerce crap on the dev server so many times sudo chown -R www-data:www-data * is muscle memory now. I should just hotkey that...
Quote from: chris on March 25, 2011, 01:11:32 PMbwahahahahaha! thx r00tchick!!
+1
and
Quote from: chris on March 25, 2011, 01:11:32 PM... sudo chown -R www-data:www-data * is muscle memory now. I should just hotkey that...
uhh...
http://www.linfo.org/alias.html (http://www.linfo.org/alias.html)
;)
Nerdiest DMF thread evar!!!
I haven't a bloody clue wtf are you guys are on about.
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