Ducati Monster Forum

Thought I'd start my own thread by now seeing as though i'll have slightly enough modifications to consider worth mentioning. Anyways, heres my bike thus far. Not much done except for the swingarm swap from an 1100 that im finishing up now. I need a longer brake line is all. Hypermotard wheel installed as you can see.  Rizoma grips and mirrors. Ducati low seat. Speedymoto clipons and boom tubes will be installed in the next couple weeks. hopefully some metaltech rearsets as well. I welcome any questions. I'll be updating this thread only from now on about my bike. More pics to come [coffee]

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Also this setup I'm working on has gotten rid of about 20lbs so far. Definitely compliments the power to weight ratio. Which in my opinion is the only way to go if you want to gain any performance outta this bike. A different intake may help but it doesn't seem like any companies have really pulled major results from their systems to deem worthy of spending the money for. And aftermarket exhausts only give you a few more HP.

there's one out of netherlands or sweden or something that has gained a lot of horsepower.

the one company out of Aussieland has pods and PC V setup that gains something like 10. out of the stock ECU.

the bike has a large throttle body (same as the 1100), large valves (largest that fit with good flow according to noted ducati race engine builder) and better flowing head than before (one of the main jumps in HP from the 695 to 696)

performance gains are only really going to come from the more expensive mods at this point.

Yeah that's sort of an exclusive club your getting into when you start rebuilding the engine. It's kinda hard to go that route for the average rider, maybe not so much for the monster rider ;), definitely possible though. From what I gather from the weight I've lost, I estimated that I've gained about 5HP, from a power to weight ratio standpoint.

Looking good - love that forged wheel  [drool].

Wait, an 1100 swingarm swap, and no write up? Isn't that illegal?

Maybe I am just not seeing it but I don't see any exhaust.  Not even headers.  Are you running without any exhausting piping?

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Rizoma Naked prototype mirrors, grips, and bar ends. Drilled new holes in the handle bars to get this setup to work.

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Newesh Monster 1100 rear swingarm swap. Bought everything off ebay off of bikes with only a couple thousand miles on them. All in great condition, maybe a minor ding here and there but nothing to complain about. Its a straight swap, no hassles at all really. If you want to get technical about one thing, it might be about the washers/spacers that fit in between where the swingarm mounts to the engine. When I pulled off the old swingarm, 3 washers fell out. 1mm washer on each side, as well as a washer thats like 0.1 or 0.2 mm on the right side. I have the shop manual that explains the reason behind all this, but i didnt bother doing anymore measuring when i mounted up the 1100 swingarm. I just used the same washers/spacers and installed them in the same spot. Worked just fine and I didnt have any loosness or play after being tightened up at the correct torque level. Hopefully I dont have issues with this later down the road.

 Obviously you can tell theres no exhaust. Im eagerly awaiting for Mark at Motocreations to send me the boomtubes, he seems to be having some issues with the ceramic coater at the moment. I blocked the ports so that no dust and dirt would get in there in the mean time.

The brake is just hanging there because I have to get a longer hose and re-bleed them. But it will mount cleanly as well when done. And if anybody has any idea how to correct the speedometer reading, please let me know. The 696 reads 6 magnets/bolts as opposed to 4 that the 1100 sprocket comes with. Thanks in advance.

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Marchesini Rear wheel off a Hypermotard with a Dunlop roadsport mounted. Excellent!(Wayne and Garth Voice). Mounted with no issues as well. Did the research..1100, 848, and hyper wheels are all direct swaps.

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This pic you can see where the spacers would fit in between the engine and the swingarm

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And finally my ducati low seat. Lovin this seat. Definitly compliments the bike well with its material and shades of black. I'll probably buy another one now before they discontinue it.

More coming soon!!....

wow, amazing. can i get a picture of the left side dead on, it seems like the swing arm is longer, meaning, the wheel is actually farther back than on a 696?
also, the springs is at a different angle, wondering how it looks from that side.
how much may i ask to do all this? noticed a swingarm on ebay is 800, and a wheel is 700

seems steep, but want so bad...

ugh

nice work. Jealousy.
Jim

Both swingarms are the same lengthwise. Both are roughly 540mm from the center of engine mount to the center of the wheel axle. The ride height feels the same too. And until I ride it, I wont know whether or not I need to adjust the shock, most likely will.

Side note: I really need to get rid of that charcoal canister [puke]

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did you change the shock clevis on the rearsubframe? if not, you're riding at the same height as a stock 696.

motowheels has the replacement part for the charcoal canister.

you might want to think about raising it before the boomtubes arrive or you're going to be very low.

Ask Mark how much the clearance is on the 696 vs the 1100.

oh, and apparently he needs photos of the boomtubes on the new monsters on his sponsor pages.

Yeah Raux I told Mark about this setup before I ordered the boomtubes. Said he just has to modify one part but other then that it's no problem. Hopefully he remembered this when he finally got around to building them. Ordered them back in November. I havnt touched the shock or changed the Clevis at all. Everything was a direct swap :)

DucatiTorrey: Your exactly right on the prices. This is one of the first 696's off the line, so I've had plenty of time to plan and save money to justify the cost.

i think if i ever get around to it, itll be that way, just start saving. If you think about it thought, for the same price, i may be able to sell the 696 and just get an 1100 on the cheap

Yup, my thoughts exactly.

Thought about the same thing. This is my first bike though, plenty fast for me. Besides, I can keep up with most higher end sport bikes in the curves where it matters most to me. Cost was low enough to give me some room to customize it to my liking. 1100 didn't have the color options I liked either, the 1100 Evo however is a different story, ducati did well IMO by listening to customers and putting a nicer looking 1100, still wish they did a true underseat exhaust like the 1098. Anyways, moral of the story, i love my 696, I'll keep it forever :)

yeah im in the same boat, 696 = first bike = fast enough

but with left wishing for more oomf with the wife sitting pillion

and more sexiness of the sss, = 1100

maybe by fall they will be more prevelant around 8k used. (7k please?)

jim

Just get an 848evo...  [evil]

Please switch out the wet clutch for a dry one next and post how you did that so i may follow  ;D  ;D  ;D

848 conversion

[thumbsup]

That's in the pipeline, years down the road. A new bike altogether might alter that conversion decision. And a dry clutch is not gonna happen...love the eye candy, hate the sound.

A couple updates: The tank panels are being painted to be a gloss and matte black combo. As well as the short tail kit is black now to blend in.

Haven't seen anyone apply this to the 696 yet, but i take it you have?

also

how can you hate the sound of the dry clutch?  [laugh] its like  [bacon]

It's been done with a 999 engine I believe. Anythings possible ;)

The dry cluth, hmm it's like... where's the icon for nuts and bolts in a food blender.  [laugh]
I dunno, just not my cup of tea.

Speedmoto sportbike clip-ons arrived. Tank panels painted. Just waiting for speedymoto top triple...clipons will be mounted above the triple after I lower the front end some(1/2inch?). OEM ducati decals and exhaust to to be delivered soon as well.

Well the boomtubes were here and gone. I had to send a part back to be fixed. One of the baffles was sticking in too far and blocked part of the hole where the lambda sensor screws into. And speaking of the lambda sensor, with this system you will need longer lambda sensor cables in order to reach the exhaust. This can be fixed by either ordering longer cables from a company that's out of stock at the moment, or by soldering some extensions on myself. Mark @ Motocreations decided to take care of this issue as well.  

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Looks good but man that front wheel looks small by comparison!!

Hmmm...Which flavor shall I go with? If you cant tell, Ive already made my decision. Anybody want to buy the black ones? :)

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PM sent  [thumbsup]

Hi there. Nice bike. Could you please tell me which make of rearset that is.
For me it's this or Woodcraft.


Thanks

Scott

Very nice rear sets those [thumbsup].  I especially like the black ones and if I didnt have what I already have I'd take those off your hands, no worries.

Metaltech Racing

Thanks

Gorgeous, great work all around, I was so pissed when they unveiled the 796 only a few months after I picked up my 696...black powdercoated rearsets, single sided swingarm and the 10(ish?) spoke wheels...ALL THINGS I WISH THE 696 HAD!!!

Any thoughts for mods on the front 2/3 of the bike? Looks like all your mods are from the seat back. (not that theres anything wrong with that)

You're ignoring his Rizoma mirrors. Mine show up next week.  ;)

Touche.

Thanks. Lol, I tell everybody the same thing. I got this bike long before the 796 though, wishing for the 1100 engine instead at the time...along with the sss. I'm just glad ducati is listening to thier riders and fixing the designed parts that nobody likes...it's about time they got rid of the beer can exhaust. Unfortunately it's only for the 1100evo. But the design is finally becoming complete. There seemed to be a lot of last second design ideas IMO when they started this new line of monsters. I think ducati needs to some how screen there new bike designs with people that don't work for the company...listen to thier buyers before unveiling something that's goin to take years to improve. I've only seen this happen a couple times, other then that there bike designs are unmatched out of the box.  But the product management team knows exactly what it's doing to try and sell more bikes, and I gotta hand it to them for this.

Anyways, up front yes I do have the rizoma setup, grips and mirrors. Speedymoto clipons and top triple will be added soon. Then later down the road possibly some different forks, maybe an engine swap. All parts that I think the first design should have come with.

Imho, I like the exhaust on my 696 better than the 1100evo (which I JUST saw for the first time)  It looks too much like the Diavel...which I think looks too much like a vrod...although it is growing on me...a little.  My only gripe about the "beer can exhaust" as you put it, is the overall size of the cans themselves.  Oh well, thats why theres an after market right? Ducati built a great start, now its up to us to reshape it in our minds eye!

The evo exhaust is ugly. The over-under concept is good but the Harley-esque routing of the headers is pathetic.

I'll take my big stock pipes any day.

That being said, I was at the dealer yesterday and learned two things:

1) The stock seat on the '11 796 is different than before and really nice. It doesn't push you into the tank nearly as much as the one on my 1100. I'll probably be buying this soon.

2) ducati will have a termi pipe kit for the evo available soon which supposedly looks better than the stock evo pipes. I'm eagerly awaiting more news on this and looking forward to exhaust manufactures following suit.

+1



My 696 came with the Ducati Performance touring seat (which im pretty sure is just 2.5 inches of gel exported strait from gods matress) but I full on agree with the overall shape of the 796 seat.  As the salesman at my local dealer put it, "it doesnt have the same testicle smash effect as the other two models" Now if they make a touring version of the 796 seat, ill be buying one of those!

wow im lovin your mods!  [thumbsup]

I'll post some more photos of it tues/wed/thurs. I'm still waiting on some little parts here and there, but it's for the most part it's complete.

Just got the speedymoto top triple. However it came with two roll pins that are mounted into them on the bottom where my headlight mounting hardware needs to go. Is this right? Or do those need to be pulled out?

Take them off  [thumbsup]
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They seem like there pressed in, and even if i get them out, there wont be an threads to screw the stock hardware into. Unless i mount them on the top, which in that case the headlight wont mount at the bottom triple. There are threads on the top of the triple. I guess I could just flip the triple over.

They are pressed in but only 1/2 way. The rest is threaded. Pull them out and get the correct screw and you will be fine.

Ironically the threading is the same as the threading on the throttle body EGR breather. So if you removed the charcoal box and plugged the holes left in the TB after removing the nipple with a screw.. it's the same size.

That either helped or royally confused you.

Done, thanks.

Any news regarding this issue?

Thank´s and keep the great work  [thumbsup]

I remember some months ago Raux posted a link here to a company that said they offered a speedo fixer for the 696.

He might be able to point it out again.


pjfa, Still have that 1100 sss for sale?

Speedohealer. Simple, small, and easy to setup. Works just the way you want it to.
http://www.healtech-electronics.com/ (http://www.healtech-electronics.com/)

Nice, great find.

Now I think I need to do a sss conversion haha.

Yes, and not for long time as I have a ducatisti who want it.  [moto]


Thank´s for the info  [thumbsup]

IMO it's definitly worth it. Double check all the extra little stock pieces you may need to buy in case the slightly used swingarm doesn't come with them already. I'd be glad to answer any questions about this if I hav'nt covered it already. I'm hoping to post some updated pictures of my setup as soon as the weather cooperates.

 Also be advised that as soon as your done with this conversion, it may lead you to buy other accessories that have nothing to do with the swingarm swap itself ;) thought I'd stop after that and get maybe some parts over the next year or so. NOPE...Next thing I knew, I had rearsets, triple tree, clipons, oil plug cap, paint, decals, and exhaust ordered the next day. Have fun [cheeky]

A video to pass the time until then...

Ducati Monster 696 Boomtubes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEgo3gG2DE4#normal)

[drool] [drool] [drool]

Quick hack job to mount the POD lower and give the bike a cleaner line. I used the empty holes on top of the speedymoto triple to attach brackets to and mount the POD lower. I'll get some better pictures another day...


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you'll want to flatten the angle on the pod a bit once you start riding

agreed, but the lowest ive seen yet. i wonder if thats only possible with the speedymoto top triple. i guess once i remove my handlebars, ill have some holes to play with too.

thats what she said?

actually mine sits lower. the front edge of the triple meets the front lower edge of the dash.

So you cut off the mounts that stick out the top of the headlight?

The screw coming up from the headlight mount and the screw coming down from the pod mount do not interfere?

Any pics of the mount?

I do like how you blended where to cut it, looks sweet, especially if it was Pc'd black, i called it first, doing it.


im not sure any lower is possible with the stock headlight, but i do think this is plenty low enough for me. consider this on the list

ay idea how much that metal bracket is if i ever decide to undo it? (i.e. give the bike to my wife to purchase an ____)

I have one, bought it just in case I screwed this project up. $85 plus shipping if you want?

hang onto it for a few months.... then maybe  ;)

The screws don't interfere. Just find ones that are short is all. And be prepared for some redneck looking bracket pictures...later today. Basically I just went to home depot and bought something I could bend and manipulate enough to make it work, nothing that should ever be in plain view on any bike, thankfully the POD covers most of this up. It works for now but I want to find something more machined and appropriate.

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Very nice. The best 696 I've seen. Looks like the black rearsets would have worked just as well if not better.

That back wheel/ swingarm is perfect. Great photography too.

yeah man very nice, thats the front end set up ive been eyeing for a long time but have failed to afford, love the mirrors.

Nice and clean set up..Will prolly follow this set up  [thumbsup]

any updates?

Added some crg levers. Modified the position of the POD. That's about it, I'm done for awhile. Gotta start saving for the next cart of parts...power commander, ohlines or marzocchi forks, misc carbon...

[clap] [clap] Mate, thats absobloodylutely beautiful  [thumbsup]   

I was skeptical of your method of completely amputating the stock speedo mounts from the headlight bezel.... but I gotta say I really like how its turned out.... Fabulous job.

UUUGH, i hate you.

I was too. That's why I bought an extra headlight bezel just in case I did mutilate the original. This was actually a pretty simple thing to cut and smooth out.  Fortunately I had some decent tools for the job. The new mounts for the POD are pretty crappy looking brackets that I bent in every which way to get the POD at the right angle. But they do the job well and are hidden thank god.

Any idea if the stock 3 spoke wheel would it the SSS?

They won't. You can only use a rim from an 1100,796, 848, and/or hypermotard.

i'd be curious about a 3 spoker from a 916 era bike

Is it a matter of the hub/cush drive size, or some other issue?

I would guess no offset is what keeps it from working, but I know nothing of the actual boltup.

everything.  no offset in the wheel, different axles, no pin holes for the wheel, no room for the calipers.

sssa wheels are designed very differently from dssa wheels.  there is no way it would work in any aspect at all.

You might use a 9xx Superbike 3-spoke rear wheel to match the stock front wheel. But I'm not sure if there are any issues.

I'm not 100pct on this, buy it believe the offset is different on the newer swingarms - hyper, monster, 848.  It might be a simple spacer to fix

I might be wrong,  but I think he was asking to save cost by keeping the stock,  which will not be possible at all

Hey buddy great bike. I just got mine and was wondering which tag eliminator you think is best Evotech or CW.

Also, how much did the swing arm cost to put on?

Thanks.

evotech... CW is a no go for a lot of people

I'd probably recommend the same. Evo is much easier to install, looks like it's one piece. Cw is 3 pieces and takes some fiddling to install. The only real benefit I guess is that it's more tidy then the Evo.

Yeah the evotech does look a bit more solid, but i do like the position of the CW. Plus i could put a black powder coat on it to match the bike. I'll probably go with the evotech.

Thanks guys.

By the way here is my first bike. The only thing i did so far was take off the windshield. Next is tail tidy an integrated sequential taillight. Can't what to get started.

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I had the CW on my 696 and put an Evo on the 796... I went back to the dealer and got the CW kit back in exchange for the stock tail parts because I absolutely HATE the plate placement of the plate on the evo kit.  Also, the plate light is next to non functional, and if you use an integrated tail light like I did, you have these ugly directional hangers that just stick out in space.  Ill try and remember to post some pictures of what i ended up using...a combination of the two kits.

EDIT: I will say that the Evo kit is much more well built, it has a great crinkle powdercoat finish, and nice robust construction, the CW kit is kinda flimsy (in comparison) stainless sheet metal.  Also, the stainless from the CW kit gets dirty in a hurry (although it cleans up fine) Im planning to have the stainless parts powdercoated to match the evo parts when i have downtime.

I just hacked off the directional hangers. I agree though that it's too bad theyre not on a removable bracket.

I hacked them off as well and used the stainless end piece (the one thats sorta cupped) to cover the cuts i made.

Hey guys,

How much does it cost to put a single side swing arm on a 2011 696? Where do you buy one?

Best do a search sir...

He says where he got the swingarm from on the first post...

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=49454.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=49454.0)

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=49455.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=49455.0)

Less than the difference in MSRP between a 696 and a 796...and like stickers, the swingarm doesnt at any ponies.

Although this statement IS true, and the first response when someone asks/suggests the swap the reality is this:  Even if you were to sell your 696 just to get a 796 with a SSS, you would have to sell it for a large chunk less than MSRP- so the actual gap is far more substantial, making the swap for someone who wants "the look" and perhaps has already modded their 696 more reasonable...

I agree 100%  I was in that exact situation myself but had a very unique set of circumstances that worked out for me.  Never the less...for someone that is looking at buying one new...just saying...

On a side note...theres a spiffy looking magnesium SSS available...so if your looking to do the conversion...why not spend the $4300 someodd bucks on that one??   [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

LOL.  [cheeky]

The bike looks great!  Seeing it has exacerbated my serious case of SSS envy [evil].

Merry Christmas everybody. I'm back home for a couple weeks, uncovered the bike, started it up for ya. Its pretty cold here but I wanted to update you with a video of the mods done to it. If the link doesn't work, ill try fixing it later. If you have questions about the bike, please refer to earlier pages in this post.

 Monster 696 Boomtubes (Updated!!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsRwbc_ASVs#)

sweet.
an appropriately named "monster"

Curious, and I hope the OP is still out there. Did you buy the speedo healer  for the 696 or a 4 magnet model, are you using ABS? Is there any known considerations for ABS use?  Did you need a different chain? Cheers .

Just used a Speed healer man. Easy install. Easy setup.

On a side note. I'll be selling this bike in a few weeks when i get back from deployment. I live in San Diego if anybody is in the area and interested in looking at it. Its been started and ridden while I've been on deployment so its still in great shape. PM if you'd like.