Ducati Monster Forum

Just installed a G2 Throttle Tamer onto my 04 620ie and I am extremely impressed with the change in throttle response.  During my brief shakedown ride, every roll on/off was buttery smooth.  Gone is the light switch input of the stock unit. 

(http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/g2-throttle-tamer/g2-throttle-tamer-cam-profile-close-up.jpg)

Having ridden with the normal cam for about a year, I felt my throttle control was decently smooth, but every now and then, I'd have a sharp, unintentional input.  Mid-turn, things sometimes got a little sketchy.  With this new throttle cam shape, inputs are much more precise and deliberate.  Honestly, in the five minute ride around the neighborhood, I was drawing the smoothest turns I've experienced on this bike.  Highly recommended.

For a better write up, check out the webbikeworld article:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/g2-throttle-tamer/ (http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/g2-throttle-tamer/)

The G2 Ergonomics website:
http://www.g2ergo.com/ (http://www.g2ergo.com/)

its seriously crazy home awesome these things make the bike. Should be standard ;)

Nothing that makes the Monster more awesome is "standard."  :D

amen

Installed my G-2 with the 300 cam a few months ago- amazing how it makes your throttle inputs as smooth as you thought you were capable of! [thumbsup]. Now that I have that mod along with a throttle lock, the longer trips will be mucho more enjoyable...

High recommendatons from me, I was going to put a 14t sprocket on my S4 but after installing the G2 I do not think I will.  In that respect is is also inexpensive. [thumbsup]

Do any of our sponsors carry this throttle tamer?

Interesting. I'd be interested in seeing the "quicker" responsed version after it comes out.  [thumbsup]

I have mine on order, and should arrive before the end of the week. Too bad I wont see temps above 45 for probably another month. All of the remarks are making me glad I did.

Here are my thoughts from driving around for a week with the tamer:

1.  Initial go is definitely smoother.  I'm leaving from a stop without any head lash, and changes in throttle input midcorner are much more precise.  The controlled roll ons/off during cornering are most appreciated.

2.  It takes a big turn of the wrist to finally hit some power delivery.  My next buy will be a new cam for the throttle body to shorten the distance to WOT.  I'll try ordering the Electraeon next month.

http://www.electraeon.com/throttlecam.html (http://www.electraeon.com/throttlecam.html)

This combined with the G2 should provide the best of both worlds.  I'll report back in a few weeks.

How come you're not going with a biggger cam from G-2? They are half the price. Just wondering...

+1.  I mean, I think the Electraeon is great, and looks trick (since it does peek out from behind the frame), but doesn't G2 have the quicker turning version?

also, which bike are you on? (Its not listed in your sig/under your name).

620ie.  I did see the quicker turning cams and suppose that might be an option, but for now, G2 Ergo does not list Ducati as a make on their cam page: 

http://www.g2ergo.com/g2-cams-235.html (http://www.g2ergo.com/g2-cams-235.html)

My Throttle Tamer came with a detachable cam, so I imagine they might be available.  Could be as simple as giving them a call.

The Electraeon has the added benefit of reaching WOT at 75% turn, something not available by switching cams.

you should call them - they will whip one up if they don't already have it.

I have an ER Racing Quick-Turn Throttle on my M900. (I got it through SportBike Track Gear, but its also available through Yoyodyne) - It came with three cams, so you could pick how ridiculous the throttle turn was. The fastest cam is 0% to WTFO in about 25-40 degrees of rotation. We are talking, crack the wrist a little bit and you are at 50%, a little further and you are wide the make the beast with two backs open.

when i went to different clipon positions, the original cables proved crazy long, and weren't the right end fittings for Keihin FCR carbs. I called up Motion Pro (or emailed 'em, can't remember which) but they make custom cables, and they made up a set for me. They worked great!

What I learned was, they make their own multi-cam quick turn throttle. (well hell. there's an easier option peaking out at me - get it all at one place).

So you might consider seeing if they do the single-pull cable like you have on the 620 for the multi-cam throttles. (The M900 and SBKs run the push-pull two cable set up).

You may not need a new G2 cam, just some jbweld or marine-tex.  You can change the profile of the cam to speed up the WOT.  Make sure you measure the clearance for the cable in the throttle housing and not increase the radius enough to rub.  

That`s the key IMHO.
Smooth operation at small throttle openings w G2 & 75% twist at WOT from Electraeon.
Noone seems to do a combination of both yet.

just got an email from G2
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from me:

i am interested in your throttle tamer since i am looking at Rizoma sportline grips and heard their throttle is crap. But i also read your tamer takes  large wrist turn to get wide open. THEN i noticed the coming soon under "faster response" for sport bikes. when will this be available?

other people on the ducati monster forum have mentioned you dont list ducatis in your options? will you be soon?
 many people are going to electraeon fast throttle instead of you guys, just saying...

btw i ride a monster 696

thanks

Jim

response:


Hi Jim,

The Monster has a unique 1 cable throttle housing with no extra room to go bigger, which is required to make a quick turn throttle.  If people are discussing our throttle for the Monster, they can only be referring to our Tamer throttle, which is designed to smooth out the snatchy EFI characteristics of the Ducati.  The Electraeon unit does not fit the throttle tube, but replaces the stock pulley on the throttle body.  If you want quicker response, this is probably a great option.

Thanks!
Gary

The sportlines or any other rizoma grip aren't compatable with throttle tamer. Because of the design of their grip you have to use their shitty throttle cam.

no other options? damn... any other grips as cool i should look at?

I think people are confusing the throttle body cam with the throttle grip cam.


As a Rizoma sportline user I can definitely attest to the absolute SHIT throttle grip cam. When I first received the grips and installed the appropriate cam it actually contacted the inside of the housing causing my throttle to stick. I had to use a file to grind down the face of the cam to solve this.

However I absolutely love the look and feel of the sportline over standard rubber grips. IMHO totally worth it.

Installed the electraeon throttle body cam a few weeks ago and is is absolutely a required mod to any bike. Before install I would have to rotate my wrist and over grip the throttle in order to get full range of motion for WOT. After install it's about 3/4 of rotation and I can hold at relaxed wrist position and rotate to WOT in one motion.

If you don't want to use the G2 grips your other option is the electraeon.

When I was stock, I had to. You are probably grabbing your throttle above the neutral position. Neutral is flat wrist, I can go from neutral to WOT now that I have the electraeon installed.

The electraeon reduced the rotation needed for WOT, not sure what the G2 does, don't have it.

All the G2 does is change the throttle curve from a linear progression to an exponential one.  WOT is still at the same place, but 1/2 throttle might be a 3/4 turn with the G2.  This leads to the feeling that you have to turn your wrist more when you want a lot of throttle. 

What the G2 does well is allow easy on/off throttle movements.  If you're getting on the throttle mid-turn after a late brake, you are more likely to ease into the gas with the G2.

The G2 is a replacement for the throttle cam inside the right hand grip.  The Electraeon is a replacement for the throttle body cam down under the tank (the other end of your throttle cable).  Where the G2 makes your throttle curve exponential, the Electraeon shortens the curve.  With the Electraeon, you reach WOT in ~3/4 of the turn.

Soooo, some people figure the best of both worlds is to just combine the two.  G2 at the grips, Electraeon at the throttle bodies. 

sorry if i seemed confused, i did know all that, so what are my options with sportline rizoma grips if I dont want crap throttle tubes?

Read this http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=27070.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=27070.0)

how about not buying those uncomfortable-as-hell grips!

But, but, they look cool.

yeah, they do look better than my stock grips.