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Title: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: zooom on February 18, 2011, 10:27:44 AM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2011/wsc_ama/ (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2011/wsc_ama/)

of Hayes AMA SBK machine versus Melandri's WSBK machine....


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: zarn02 on February 18, 2011, 10:59:47 AM
Interesting.

What is the device that rides along with the fork, and looks like a very tiny blue fork, or damper?


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: Spidey on February 18, 2011, 11:11:41 AM
Sensor for electronics


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: derby on February 18, 2011, 11:36:52 AM
Sensor for electronics

 [thumbsup]

suspension travel


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: Speeddog on February 18, 2011, 11:42:29 AM
Sensor for electronics

More detailed....it tells the electronics where the fork is in it's travel.

Part of it is data-logging for knowing how the suspension is performing, also for electronic wheelie control (if it's legal).


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: zooom on February 18, 2011, 12:53:21 PM
the different swingarms and tanks interested me for some reason....


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: derby on February 18, 2011, 02:00:44 PM
the different swingarms and tanks interested me for some reason....

(in the past) the worldsbk r1 "tank" was just a cover and the fuel was stored lower in the body w/ the filler in the seat.

i don't think the ama regulations allow that, but i'd have to look to verify.


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: fastwin on February 18, 2011, 05:03:38 PM
I read in the April 2011 Sport Rider that Graves sent Hayes tank(s) to Gmeiner Racing Parts in Germany to have them reshaped to better suit his riding style. They didn't get specific on what they did. Also interesting is that Hayes doesn't use any electronic aids. Bascially has them all turned off ala old school style. Kinda neat! [thumbsup] It's a good issue of SR. It's got the write up on Hayes' winning R1 plus rides and write ups by Alan Cathcart on Biaggi's Ape, Corser's Bimmer and Crutchlow's Yammyhammer.


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: gm2 on February 19, 2011, 06:04:28 AM
i don't think the ama regulations allow that, but i'd have to look to verify.

they don't.  unless they changed very recently.


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: gm2 on February 19, 2011, 09:16:31 AM
most interesting is the sponsorship/no sponsorship  =)

(and the fact that nearly everything about the wsbk version is different)


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: Speeddog on February 19, 2011, 09:47:02 AM
Aren't there different homologated year bikes for the 2 series?

IE different model years, different bodywork?

Or are all the crossplane R1 bikes the same bodywork?


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: zarn02 on February 19, 2011, 11:49:30 AM
Sensor for electronics
[thumbsup]

suspension travel
More detailed....it tells the electronics where the fork is in it's travel.

Part of it is data-logging for knowing how the suspension is performing, also for electronic wheelie control (if it's legal).

Gotcha. Thanks for the edumacations. [thumbsup]


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: gm2 on February 19, 2011, 11:51:03 AM
Aren't there different homologated year bikes for the 2 series?

IE different model years, different bodywork?

Or are all the crossplane R1 bikes the same bodywork?


can't swear to it but i think the side cut since '09 has been that more vertical line we see on hayes' bike.

still interested by the new shorty graves pipes..


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: Drunken Monkey on February 19, 2011, 09:28:58 PM

suspension travel

Correct. They use it to datalog the suspension travel for tuning purposes.

Wheelie control uses the same type of "gyroscope on a chip" that the iPhone (or WiiMote, for that matter) uses.

At least that's the DTC model.

 



Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: fastwin on February 20, 2011, 12:15:38 PM
still interested by the new shorty graves pipes..

The Sport Rider article said they were shortened by Graves to make them lighter. Apparently in 2009 the bike was way over the minimum weight so it went on a diet in 2010. Little bit here, little bit there added up to a lighter bike. They said it will be right on the weight limit for the start of the 2011 season.


Title: Re: interesting overlay comparo
Post by: gm2 on February 21, 2011, 10:14:06 AM
The Sport Rider article said they were shortened by Graves to make them lighter. Apparently in 2009 the bike was way over the minimum weight so it went on a diet in 2010. Little bit here, little bit there added up to a lighter bike. They said it will be right on the weight limit for the start of the 2011 season.

thx  :)


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