Hey all,
Its almost riding time again in the midwest!! actually guys are already on the road.
I am wanting to do a bit of maint on my ride before I crack her out of the cave. I have a 98 M750 and noticed I have Showa Forks # GD051 were those standard editions on this year and model? I was just curious.
Post a pic just so we can say for sure, but I'm going to say those are not OEM forks.
Quote from: MaaloX on February 19, 2011, 11:13:56 AM
Hey all,
Its almost riding time again in the midwest!! actually guys are already on the road.
I am wanting to do a bit of maint on my ride before I crack her out of the cave. I have a 98 M750 and noticed I have Showa Forks # GD051 were those standard editions on this year and model? I was just curious.
Here ya go
(http://www.ehlersville.com/page2/files/page2_blog_entry20-2010-11-28-09.16.21.jpg)
Not stock on that bike.
M750 didn't have adjustables.
Those are forks off a SBK.
What's going on with that brake line?
Quote from: Speeddog on February 19, 2011, 04:38:53 PM
Those are forks off a SBK.
What's going on with that brake line?
It's waaaaaay too long. [laugh]
I bought this bike last summer. Trying to get everything in order they way it should be.
Sorry for my ignorance but whats a SBK?
How long should that brake line be? It did look a bit odd but I never put to much thought into it. Probably not to safe.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 19, 2011, 04:40:21 PM
It's waaaaaay too long. [laugh]
Quote from: MaaloX on February 19, 2011, 06:24:09 PM
I bought this bike last summer. Trying to get everything in order they way it should be.
Sorry for my ignorance but whats a SBK?
How long should that brake line be? It did look a bit odd but I never put to much thought into it. Probably not to safe.
SBK is a superbike. It's a good thing. That is a much better fork than what was stock.
The brake line not so much especially since you aren't running a fender. The danger is if the line gets worn through by the tire.
You can get something a lot closer for not a ton of money.
Do a search on the forum for brake lines.
Speedo cable doesn't look right either. The brake hose needs to be long enough not to be stressed at any point of suspension travel, but not so long it could catch on something. A better photo of the cable and hose routing will help.
Quote from: howie on February 19, 2011, 06:54:07 PM
Speedo cable doesn't look right either. The brake hose needs to be long enough not to be stressed at any point of suspension travel, but not so long it could catch on something. A better photo of the cable and hose routing will help.
Ill take better pics in the morning and post them up. I was also looking at clip ons but I did notice that my handle bar risers look like a doit yourself job with spacers...
did a bit of reading on the SBK conversion. Since its looking like I have different forks than original how do I determine which clip ons I should be considering. Thanks for the info thus far. I appreciate it.
Measure to be sure, but Monster forks use 50 mm., Superbikes 53.
Trust your measurement over my advice, but if it helps, the GD051 Showas are stock on my '98 916. Any 748/916/996/998 clip-ons should work, as should the later models (749/999 and 848/1098/1198), I believe they're all 53mm.
Couple of heads ups if you're planning to mount the clip-ons under the top triple (at least the problems I ran into):
- looks like you've got coffin style reservoirs, those will interfere with the bar mount on most clip-ons
- the headlight mounting brackets will interfere with the clip-on's fork tube mounts
There's a ton of easy ways around these issues, from dirt cheap to shiny new Brembo RCS radial master cylinders [drool]. Search around a bit, there are a bunch of threads on these issues.
~Doug
Thanks guys for the tips. it really does help. I did not even think of those issues.....
If you look at the pic I posted you will notice that I do not have a front fender...Now I know why...I am assuming the original front fonder would not fit correctly on the new SB forks that were installed. I even went out and bought a used front fender for a 98 M750 and it wont fit....That is why I started thinking something had been done. I went through a ton of 97-99 pics trying to find a picture of someone with the same style forks....
would it be a good idea to look at some fork adjusters?
I took pics of the risers that look like someone shimmed them up but just have not gotten down to the office to post yet. And I am leaving for work for a few days. I will post it when I get back..
I would really like to replace the riser because it looks so terrible. That is why I was thinking of installing clipons I thought it might be a tad bit easier but then Doug piped in and raised a few issues I might just run into.. which I truly do appreciate..
You can use any 916 style SBK or 99 up SS fender. You really should protect those fork legs.
I think the home made risers are to get the standard bar over the fork adjusters. If thats the case you can buy bars which have a shorter mid section to get the clearance.
i was going to say 916 also - same fork cap tops, same brake mounts - you got 'em with TiNi coating on the fork sliders - that's a great fork you got. Like DP said - they are worth protecting. Bike has some good add ons, like those forks and the steering damper, and what appears to be the DP analog tachometer/speedometer housing.
but that brake line is WAY too long. reeeediculous long. good news for you is that my shelf of spares has a more appropriately sized brake line (red line with gold fittings from spiegler) and I have a red OEM SBK fender too. [i like to hoard things] pm me if you are interested - i'm cheap to negotiate.
speedo cable should 'naturally' bow out towards the back of the bike from the wheel and gently bend upwards by the brake caliper and be fed up in front of the lower triple and into bottom of speedo, which should be the left analog gauge (or the only analog gauge if the gauge cluster isn't the DP like I thought it was, but is the OEM)
Thanks a m for the help and your offerings. I just received a black sb fender and it fits great. I would take you up on the offer for the brake line but since I am going to replace it I will either get black or stainless steel.
I just keep getting deeper into this. a m, I did notice another post where you were helping another member out with sb forks. My bike actually has 2 different color rims. The front is gold and the back is black...no not AC/DC but the color black :)
Anyway, I dont have a caliper to measure the actual size of the axle but I am going out on a hunch here and thinking that the rim is also from a sb.....
This bike is a love hate relationship. I bought it 2nd hand, and the guy I bought it from had no idea if anything had been done to it...just like myself. But then again I am learning a whole hell of allot.
Your front rim? Could be a SBK or a SS, or newer Monster (though I don't think they came w/ gold wheels, just silver)
I concur on the 916 style. The caliper bolt pattern in of the older generation of ducatis. It cant be a monster because of the equal bumpout on the lower an upper portions of the fork where the triple clamps connect
Plus the red cap and the extended handle bar risers indicate a longer fork. Could be an really old set of 748 forks from 95,96 ish era. The nitriding is whats throwing me off. maybe it was done after the fact.
I think it's not limited to red caps (for longer forks), I recall discussing forks w Alain at Corse Motorsports in Nashville and I believe I remember learning that SS forks are also longer while still sometimes being nonadjustable!
That said, I think it's a good highlight about making sure you are measuring from the bottom of the forks up to a fixed spot (like the triple), rather than relying on a top triple / fork exposed-above measurement when changing forks. For maintaining original geometry that is - if you are adjusting that, then you are certainly going to start there and make changes.