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http://www.enquirerjournal (http://www.enquirerjournal).

Don't know if anyone has seen this but wow

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I can't see it.

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sorry

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looks pretty gnarly from the slideshow, though.

yeah the slide show is all i could see myself and looks bad

Holy damn. :P

googled union county fatal motorcycle crash and this is what i found:

http://eastcharlotte.wbtv.com/news/crime/woman-charged-fatal-motorcycle-wreck-hundreds-bikers-attend-funeral/59233 (http://eastcharlotte.wbtv.com/news/crime/woman-charged-fatal-motorcycle-wreck-hundreds-bikers-attend-funeral/59233)

not the same incident.

Looks horrible. Newspapers online with fee access=so 2003.

Here is the actual story: http://www.wsoctv.com/news/26927619/detail.html (http://www.wsoctv.com/news/26927619/detail.html)

I've been on that road many times, it's busy and cramped, you can't let your guard down at all as a motorcyclist or car driver.

Authorities said Saturday Escobar was listed in serious condition; her husband was listed in critical condition. Monday morning Escobar's condition had been upgraded to fair. Hospital officials said Morales was no longer in the system.

Not being in the system is so...

ambiguous.

   Kinda weird, you'd think the bike would have looked a lot worse than it did.

upper is gone, rear tire is off the rim, left side fairing is peeled back, subframe is broken off, tank is no longer on the bike...

it doesn't exactly look "good"...

what surprises me is that, despite the wheelbase being shortened, the front wheel is still "intact".

So the way the story reads is that the bike was going way too fast, and the car was paying way too little attention.

Unfortunately, this particular situation doesn't seem as rare as we'd all like...

Edit: Emphasis added so as not to judge till all the facts are in. (Cue Gen. Buck Turgidson voice.)

Ugghh.... that didn't make me feel good.  And it can happen to anyone.


I have a similar story, when I was on a 4 lane (2 each way) road, maintaining my speed of 45mph.  Right lane.  The right lane ends up being a turn/merge lane to get on the interstate.  I noticed a gap in the left lane where traffic was stopped at a light.  I began to roll out of the throttle a bit (it's a NICE merging corner to the right, lots of room to play) and cover the brake.  Sure as make the beast with two backsing shit some dumb #$(%# decided that since the one lane of cars had stopped to let her through (from the opposite direction) she just came on over. 

Even anticipating a bone-headed move from a clueless driver, I nearly T boned her.  I thought for sure I'd take out the bags (either the ride side on her bumper as I passed behind, or the left on the stopped car I was trying to get close with.  Pissed me off bad enough that I went back to ask her if she ever looked or saw me.  Topping it off, I got a bunch of attitude from this woman, telling me I shouldn't ride that "dangerous thing" if I didn't want to die.

Seeing shit like that pic above makes me question why I should continue to ride on the street.  If anything it damn sure reminds me I'm not invincible....


You guys/gals ride safe, please.

My "Fist of Extreme Repeated Discomfort" tends to react to words like that long before my mind catches up. Its usually much quicker to react if I'm wearing armored gloves.

BC.

I find it hard to believe that witnesses can determine the speed of any vehicle without a radar gun.
I also find it hard to believe that the driver of the SUV took the step to clear the lanes visually before initiating the U-turn.
and the center of gravity of a Honda CRV would make sending it over while in a turn pretty easy. at least easier than people are making it.
do i think possibly the rider was speeding.. sure..
do i think it led to the accident... no
do i think if he had not he could have reacted to the boneheaded driver... maybe

too many times people cite speeding as the cause of an accident.
speeding only makes those actions happen faster which are unsafe.
you have to predict sooner, you have to focus more, and you better hope your reactions are lightning quick.
but is it a cause... no


but just my opinion

Fair enough, Raux.

I can personally attest to the fact that if a cager does something stupid enough at just just the wrong time, you can be left with little to do about it, even if you're doing the speed limit. :P

Or even just stopped at a light!

I can't tell their speed, but I can tell if they are speeding pretty easily if they are 10ish or more over.

From the photos, I am guessing it was significant speed, and it would be the cause of the accident.  I see dumb bikers riding 30+ over all the time here.  I am in tune to it, but if my parents were in town visiting, they would not be, and could pull out in front of them?   If people want to survive long term on bikes, they should plan on staying close to the speed the rest of the flow when encountering traffic.

mitt

I have to say, I don't know what the reason is to post stuff like this.  We know it's a dangerous hobby, but personally I don't care for the reminders here, where I come to celebrate riding.  Even though I usually choose not to click on the link, the titles are a bummer.  If there's something to be learned from an accident, why not just post that?  Blech.  

Perhaps because there is a constant influx of newer riders who haven't seen much (if any) of these things before and/or need reminding.