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Title: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: zooom on February 25, 2011, 04:31:16 AM
Checa dominates the field thus far...

FP1 times....

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Carlos Checa Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 1:31.647
2 Jonathan Rea Castrol Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:32.272
3 Joan Lascorz Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:32.352
4 Leon Haslam BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:32.360
5 Sylvain Guintoli Team Effenbert - Liberty Racing Ducati 1098R 1:32.398
6 Max Biaggi Aprilia Alitalia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:32.428
7 Jakub Smrz Team Effenbert - Liberty Racing Ducati 1098R 1:32.444
8 Marco Melandri Yamaha World Superbike Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:32.507
9 Michel Fabrizio Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:32.611
10 Eugene Laverty Yamaha World Superbike Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:32.656
11 Tom Sykes Kawasaki Racing Team Superbike Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:33.033
12 Noriyuki Haga PATA Racing Team Aprilia Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:33.113
13 Ruben Xaus Castrol Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:33.194
14 Ayrton Badovini BMW Motorrad Italia SBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1:33.229
15 James Toseland BMW Motorrad Italia SBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1:33.441
16 Josh Waters  Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:33.446
17 Maxime Berger Supersonic Racing Team Ducati 1098R 1:33.474
18 Leon Camier Aprilia Alitalia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:33.709
19 M. Aitchison Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:34.095
20 Roberto Rolfo Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:34.395


Checa, Guintoli and Camier each crashed in the session.


1st Qualiifying times...

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Carlos Checa Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 1:31.577
2 Sylvain Guintoli Team Effenbert - Liberty Racing Ducati 1098R 1:31.850
3 Eugene Laverty Yamaha World Superbike Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:31.969
4 Max Biaggi Aprilia Alitalia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:32.009
5 Jakub Smrz Team Effenbert - Liberty Racing Ducati 1098R 1:32.066
6 Leon Haslam BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:32.082
7 Michel Fabrizio Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:32.108
8 Joan Lascorz Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:32.163
9 Jonathan Rea Castrol Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:32.424
10 Josh Waters Yoshimura Oz Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:32.690
11 Troy Corser BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:32.699
12 Marco Melandri Yamaha World Superbike Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:32.700
13 Tom Sykes Kawasaki Racing Team Superbike Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:32.705
14 Noriyuki Haga PATA Racing Team Aprilia Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:33.058
15 James Toseland BMW Motorrad Italia SBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1:33.074
16 Leon Camier Aprilia Alitalia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:33.084
17 B Staring Pedrercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:33.130
18 Maxime Berger Supersonic Racing Team Ducati 1098R 1:33.176
19 Ruben Xaus Castrol Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:33.411
20 Ayrton Badovini BMW Motorrad Italia SBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1:33.598


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: zarn02 on February 25, 2011, 12:22:07 PM
Nobody has qualifying up on Racing Underground. Maybe somebody will at least get superpole uploaded.

And what's the deal with the Ducati factory team? Just one rider, or two with different sponsorship?


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: zooom on February 25, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
And what's the deal with the Ducati factory team? Just one rider, or two with different sponsorship?

technically speaking...there is NO factory team...Althea is the #1 "directly supported" satelite team...


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: duccarlos on February 25, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
I have a conspiracy theory that Ducati wanted to break the contract with Haga and Fabrizio. Disolving the team would be a way to do it.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: derby on February 25, 2011, 12:31:19 PM
I have a conspiracy theory that Ducati wanted to break the contract with Haga and Fabrizio. Disolving the team would be a way to do it.

i don't think either of 'em were contracted for this year.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: duccarlos on February 25, 2011, 12:35:42 PM
There goes my conspiracy theory. Another theory I heard was that they were pulling out to force a rule change so that the Apes would be considered illegal.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: gm2 on February 25, 2011, 12:36:14 PM
i don't think either of 'em were contracted for this year.

yup, they weren't.

factory ducati wsbk folded up shop.  that money goes to valentino.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: zooom on February 25, 2011, 01:22:58 PM
Another theory I heard was that they were pulling out to force a rule change so that the Apes would be considered illegal.

less about considering the Ape illegal and more about getting set for the Superquadratta SBK to launch and hit the racing scene under the same circumstances as Aprilia....put a bike on the grid to race and get bikes out on the sales floor 6 months after it has seen racing action...but that is my own conspiracy theory.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: ducpainter on February 25, 2011, 02:17:08 PM
Nobody has qualifying up on Racing Underground. Maybe somebody will at least get superpole uploaded.

And what's the deal with the Ducati factory team? Just one rider, or two with different sponsorship?
Qualy is never posted on RU.

Superpole is on the capture schedule.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: MadDuck on February 25, 2011, 10:11:32 PM
yup, they weren't.

factory ducati wsbk folded up shop.  that money goes to valentino.

The Ducati money is going to the new bike development.  Rossi is getting most of his money through Marlborough and other sponsers. Ducati is still chipping in big time no doubt but not at the expense of another team. It's more of a new bike thing I'm sure.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: ducpainter on February 26, 2011, 11:28:59 AM
Checa Biaggi and Guintoli top three in SP


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: zooom on February 26, 2011, 11:43:03 AM
Checa takes 1st Superpole of the season...

Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Carlos Checa Althea Racing Ducati 1098R 1:30.882
2 Max Biaggi Aprilia Alitalia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:30.895
3 Sylvain Guintoli Team Effenbert - Liberty Racing Ducati 1098R 1:31.293
4 Leon Haslam BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:31.429
5 Eugene Laverty Yamaha World Superbike Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:31.858
6 Jakub Smrz Team Effenbert - Liberty Racing Ducati 1098R 1:31.980
7 Troy Corser BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1:32.182
8 Marco Melandri Yamaha World Superbike Team Yamaha YZF R1 1:32.662
9 Michel Fabrizio Team Suzuki Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:32.153
10 Tom Sykes Kawasaki Racing Team Superbike Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:32.204
11 Josh Waters Yosh  Suzuki GSX-R1000 1:32.240
12 Jonathan Rea Castrol Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:32.708
13 Joan Lascorz Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1:32.346
14 Noriyuki Haga PATA Racing Team Aprilia Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:32.391
15 James Toseland BMW Motorrad Italia SBK Team BMW S1000 RR 1:32.547
16 Ruben Xaus Castrol Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1:32.788
17 Leon Camier Aprilia Alitalia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1:32.847


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: mitt on February 26, 2011, 04:46:49 PM
That is awesome - a "non factory" duc on the pole.  Why couldn't factory muster this last year?


mitt


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: fastwin on February 26, 2011, 06:56:21 PM
Damn, Haga in 14th! Yeah, I know it's early, give him time. It will be interesting to see how the Ape will run with normal chain drive cams like the production bike this year. No more gear driven goodness. Read in Sport Rider that it was making 221+ horsepower last year. I assume at the crank?? ??? Can't wait for the season to start. As always, it's been a sucky off season. Bring it!! [thumbsup] [beer] [popcorn]


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island
Post by: fastwin on February 26, 2011, 07:58:28 PM
Total spoiler here!!!!















http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Feb/110226race1.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Feb/110226race1.htm)

First race a winner for Checa!! interesting the way the rest of the field played out. :P


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Scotzman on February 26, 2011, 09:55:48 PM
Wow. That's more than a win.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Stinky Wizzleteats on February 26, 2011, 11:09:20 PM
Well, looks like a few bikes picked the wrong tyres in the Supersport race? But still a great race!

I've been looking forward to racing season for so long! It's back baby!  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: techno on February 26, 2011, 11:43:24 PM
Looks like the weather was much better than the GP when I was there last year.

Phillip Island weather can be fickle.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: duccarlos on February 27, 2011, 06:51:07 AM
Looks like the weather was much better than the GP when I was there last year.

Phillip Island weather can be fickle.

This is exactly why they want to move Phillip Island to earlier in the year for MotoGP instead of towards the end.

It's good to see Melandri up there!


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Triple J on February 27, 2011, 04:11:37 PM
Great races by Checa!  [thumbsup] Haslam looked great on the BMW in race 1. Super battle between Melandri/Biaggi in race 2.  [thumbsup]

The Ape is still silly fast, gear drive or not.



Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: fastwin on February 27, 2011, 05:04:40 PM
Yeah, I was wondering if going back to stock from gear driven sticks would make a difference. My guess is Biaggi could make a wheelbarrow look good! [thumbsup] [moto] Glad Haga did better than a 14th in Superpole made him look!


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Jester on February 28, 2011, 09:56:25 AM
Great races by Checa!  [thumbsup] Haslam looked great on the BMW in race 1. Super battle between Melandri/Biaggi in race 2.  [thumbsup]

The Ape is still silly fast, gear drive or not.



Yeah I think they said the Ape had a 18kph trap speed advantage over the Duc, but the Duc's chassis and drivability suits PI better.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: gm2 on February 28, 2011, 10:32:13 AM
The Ducati money is going to the new bike development.  Rossi is getting most of his money through Marlborough and other sponsers. Ducati is still chipping in big time no doubt but not at the expense of another team. It's more of a new bike thing I'm sure.

i wasn't really being serious....


awesome for carlos!  and max.  what is this, the seniors tour?

yay for marco, glad to see him get sorted.  i really hope nori gets that bike working... i really miss watching him race millimeters from ppl.

james who?


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Spidey on February 28, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
WOOHOOO!!! RACING IS BACK!!!!

Wow, big difference between top 4 in qualifying and the results in race 1.  

I'm really psyched to see the Yammies up there.  I'd pretty much given up on that team after last year.  And Melandri, who I've always liked, did what he *should* do.  When his shoulder heals, it'll be great.  I can't believe Laverty pipped him right at the end of Race 1.  And Race 2 with Biaggi gave me wood.  I wish he wasn't so down in speed.  

Damn, those BMWs are fast in a straight line.  For all their hype, they haven't lived up to it on the track.  Until now.  It's good to see Haslam finally make the bike look competitive.

I'm still annoyed at the Aprilia.  It's no fun to watch Biaggi walk away from everyone one the straights and at the start (that is, when he doesn't almost drop the bike).  He's gonna crush it again this year.  

CHECA!!!! So, in order for Ducati to have success, they just needed to get rid of their factory team, ramp down their involvement in the series, and save $ in the process?    

Interesting that the MotoGP old guys dominate.  Not surprising, but still . . .

I know we always pregnant dog about the feed, but they cut away from so many good passes (including passes for the lead) in order to watch people in 7th place circulate, it made me wanna punch babies.

Where are the Kwaks we heard so much about?  I guess it's a new bike, so we shouldn't expect immediate results, but I wanted a bit more green in the picture.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: gm2 on February 28, 2011, 11:22:29 AM
WOOHOOO!!! RACING IS BACK!!!!
[thumbsup]

Where are the Kwaks we heard so much about?  I guess it's a new bike, so we shouldn't expect immediate results, but I wanted a bit more green in the picture.
http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/167036/1/sykes_it_is_early_days.html (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/167036/1/sykes_it_is_early_days.html)


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Spidey on February 28, 2011, 11:39:41 AM
james who?

Seriously.  What happened to that guy?  Is it his brain or have the injuries started to take their toll?

i really hope nori gets that bike working... i really miss watching him race millimeters from ppl.

I've kinda written him off, but I'd be psyched if he found his prior form.  A Biaggi/Haga fairing bashing session would be AWESOME!!!!



Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Cider on February 28, 2011, 12:25:52 PM
Very good racing this weekend, but I'm getting a little tired of hearing the announcers talk about how fast the Aprilia is.  They make it sound like it's some kind of unfair advantage. 


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: gm2 on February 28, 2011, 01:12:50 PM
I've kinda written him off, but I'd be psyched if he found his prior form.  A Biaggi/Haga fairing bashing session would be AWESOME!!!!

tbh i think he's permanently broken.. but i can still wish for the old nori to show up.


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: fastwin on February 28, 2011, 01:26:43 PM
Very good racing this weekend, but I'm getting a little tired of hearing the announcers talk about how fast the Aprilia is.  They make it sound like it's some kind of unfair advantage. 

I know this is a WSBK thread but folks said the same thing when Stoner and the Duc were walking away from other racers on the straights in MotoGP a couple of years ago. This year they might be saying the same thing about Stoner and the Honda! [bang]

Still, I just LOVE the fact that Checa doubled!! [thumbsup] [clap] I remember when he doubled at Miller on the Honda a few years ago then got robbed last year of another Miller double by late race gremlins on the Duc. Maybe PI was a karma do-over for the Miller mess! ;D


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Triple J on February 28, 2011, 02:37:51 PM
then got robbed last year of another Miller double by late race gremlins on the Duc. Maybe PI was a karma do-over for the Miller mess! ;D

Last year...in front of the grandstands where we were sitting. I really felt bad for him, but the picture is kinda funny.  ;D

(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n258/JJGeo/ChecaOutRace1Copy1.jpg)


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: fastwin on February 28, 2011, 02:50:34 PM
Wonder what he was saying in Spanish at that moment? [laugh] That body language just screams of one pissed off dude! Bet the tension in his pits was bouncing off the rev limiter!! :o


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: webspoke on February 28, 2011, 06:19:33 PM
Checa's pole time would have placed him 3rd on last years motogp race  [thumbsup]
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/wsbk-noyes-notebook-checa-motogp-fast-at-phillip-island/P3 (http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/wsbk-noyes-notebook-checa-motogp-fast-at-phillip-island/P3)



Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: zarn02 on February 28, 2011, 07:55:26 PM
That pic is funny. Like he's a disappointed pet owner scolding the dog for pissing all over the rug...

And yes, I completely agree with Spidey... WOOOOOOOOOORACING!!!


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: fastwin on February 28, 2011, 08:09:54 PM
That's a damn funny read on that pic!! Much better than mine given I have a troublesome pooch! [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Triple J on March 01, 2011, 08:10:30 AM
That pic is funny. Like he's a disappointed pet owner scolding the dog for pissing all over the rug...


That's what I saw as well. Almost looks like the bike is cowering.  [laugh]


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: fastwin on March 01, 2011, 04:46:33 PM
Bad bike! Where's a rolled up newspaper when you need one? [laugh]


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: fastwin on March 01, 2011, 08:56:26 PM
Wow, taking a go to the frig for a cold beer break from watching the TIVO'd WSS race at PI. Damn, what a great race!! I'm on lap 15 of 21 and it's a 7 way battle for the lead and it's constantly changing!! This is what racing is all about!! [thumbsup] Great stuff!! [clap] [popcorn] [bow_down]


Title: Re: 2011 WSBK-RD1-Phillip Island...now with spoilers
Post by: Triple J on March 02, 2011, 09:02:44 PM
Just watched the WSS race. Wow, what a geat race!  [thumbsup] That finish was fantastic!  [bow_down]


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