Is there any reason my stator would die?
For $500 I can get a new one +labor. I'm not really interested in having another one fail on me.
Ideas?
A 2009? Not still under warranty? Are you sure the stator is dead? How did you do the diagnosis?
get one off ebay cheap
"A 2009? Not still under warranty? Are you sure the stator is dead? How did you do the diagnosis?"
I took it to a dealership - they are also the ones that told me it wasn't under warranty anymore.
The battery kept dieing AKA not charging.
Cross reference part numbers, I would check on any 2v stator that is 3 phase.
Looks like we have the same problem. 09 696 just out of warranty, BUT we are in the process of having the original owners extended warranty transferred over to my wife's name.
Battery not charging progressively getting worse. Original owner replaced battery in order to sell the bike. Lasted from 383 miles to about 2000 miles (current). Battery dead, I replaced battery with Yuasa YT12B-BS, installed yesterday, rode the bike this morning short ride, then wife rode 30 miles parked for couple of hours, ride home, engine light comes on and battery too low to start bike.
I am trying to test stator output with voltmeter by black to ground and positive to each yellow wire from stator. Between 4 and 5 volts at 2000rpm and 11-12 volts at 6000rpm?
According to Commonwealth Ducati- even though 696 generator/stator is specified as part no. 264.4.022.1A- it says it will fit the following:
Ducati Hypermotard 1100 EVO 2010, 2011
Ducati Hypermotard 1100 EVOSP 2010, 2011
Ducati Hypermotard 1100 S 2008
Ducati Hypermotard 1100 Standard 2008, 2009
Ducati Hypermotard 796 2010, 2011
Ducati Monster 1000 2004, 2005
Ducati Monster 620 2004
Ducati Monster 696 2010, 2011
Ducati Monster 796 2011
Ducati Monster 800 2004
Ducati Monster S2R 1000 2006
Ducati Monster S2R DARK 2005
Ducati Monster S2R Standard 2005
Ducati SportClassic 1000 BIPOSTO 2007, 2008
Ducati SportClassic 1000 GT 2007, 2008
Ducati SportClassic 1000 LE-PAULSMART 2006
Ducati SportClassic 1000 S 2007, 2008
Ducati SportClassic 1000 Standard 2006
Ducati SuperSport 1000 2004
Ducati SuperSport 1000 DS 2005, 2006
Ducati SuperSport 800 2004
Thusly- this stator SHOULD work- would perhaps have to swap the connector...
http://www.ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=21-010&pmc=MDREdWM4MDBTUw== (http://www.ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=21-010&pmc=MDREdWM4MDBTUw==)
Or there is this:
http://www.dropbears.com/r/rewinds/ (http://www.dropbears.com/r/rewinds/)
... and according to the parts fiche, the stator cover comes off pretty easy- maybe a new gasket but maybe not, unbolt and install new stator- the biggest cost from Ducati is the part which they want $500+ for...
Found a microfiche, showed that same part number you posted, pulled it up, shows for Ducati 620. So, I do another search on ebay for 620, found a stator, will take a chance on that one. Mine is just not putting out the voltage stated in the service manual: 27v +-10v @2000rpm and 78v +-10 @ 6000rpm. Two of my windings gets the lower voltage, but none get over 54 at 6000rpm.
Thanks for those links 2-Skinny. I'm going in, betting the case cover goes on with the liquid gasket seal, which I have.
I know, Ducati needs to be informed of this thru warranty fix, but they are closed till tuesday, (plus 3 week backlog on service). I am on pretty good info terms with the service manager at my local dealer (180 miles), so will touch base with them anyway.
Check the voltage regular first, it's a bit cheaper and easy to install.
I have another RR, but it did not help. My stator is not putting out the required AC volts, at least according to my voltmeter.
I bought a stator from a 620 that was supposed to be in good working order as a spare for my recently sold S2R800. I can let it go for much much more cheep cheep than $500, which is ridonkulous.
I just changed my stator its a very easy fix . pull it out and send it to RICKS MOTORSPORT . THEY SENT ME A REBUILD OFF THE SHEF FOR $140 . This is why you need full syn /poa/ oil so it dont overheat and cook your stator like mine was . lock tight the three bolts in and use grey peratex on the side covers no gasket . very easy fix very common with these 60 yr old design motors. Send your reg. with it to get checked , i did and they said it was fine , instead of selling me a new one . [clap]
Good info. Not sure if it was a factor, but the oil in my 696 was Royal Purple 10W-40 synthetic.
Max-Cycle High Performance Motorcycle
reduces engine heat
increases HP
Obviously it was not cool enough, or the breakin oil did the damage before the change. Original owner did replace a battery before me.
How did the replacement go...?
Went good, BUT, I picked up a used 620 multi stator. Everything was same size BUT, the OD was like .110" too big would not fit the 696 magnet drum. In the interest of getting her back on the road as soon as possible not having anything to lose, I turned an aluminum fixture (with three holes drilled and tapped for 6mm) and mounted the stator on my lathe, turned it down .080" before running into a wire.
Still had insulation between the wire and base metal, so mounted it up and we are good to go. Charging at 13.6 volts at idle. My RR was fine, so now I will be selling a RR on ebay that I did not need.
For anyone else trying this, I would recommend getting the drum that fits the stator, but I have not tested if it bolts up okay to the 696, it appears to be fit tho from pictures.
Picture of the stator before starting turning.
(http://myweb.cebridge.net/dhanson/620multi.jpg)
GREAT FIX ..it seems i would have sent my old one in for a rebuild or exchange and ben done with it ... cant think how much that drum would cost it things went wrong ... now in the bikes lifetime the ORG wont fit .
Drums are like $24 on ebay right now. Don't follow you on what will not fit in the future?? The stator fits INSIDE the drum, nothing changed there, just the wrong stator for the 696.
The stator was $60, so no big loss there if I trashed it compared to a new $543, or rebuilt $140 and 2 weeks down time.