Ducati Monster Forum

hey guys,
so looks like the m900 is gonna be gone this week  :'( so i'll now be wasting a bunch of  [bacon] on the S4R.  i bought it with full arrow cf system AND LOOOOOVE the sound but am not a fan of the look.  any experience with boomtubes or other interesting exhaust ideas?  also, what are your favorite s4r mods?  this thing has more power than a chump like me will ever need with a power commander and an engine that about 800cc's too big for me.  soooooo, thinkin more along the aesthetics line.  kinda wonderin how a retro lookin s4r would play out . . . anywho.  any cool exhaust ideas or mods that you guys have dug on your own rides i'd love to see/hear about.  she is below in all her glory:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5011/5515430129_ca70fb71be_b.jpg)

Moto Creations are not currently producing boom tubes for the 06 and under called these guys to see if they'd do an exhaust for an S4R  ;D - we'll see . . . meanwhile if anyone wants to trade for the full arrow system  [coffee] or perhaps i can get these guys to make me something. ..
(http://www.ducatiperformance.com/images/dde203-4.jpg)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/CIMG2.jpg)

http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=581 (http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=581)
(http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/images/termi_s4rsSO_01.jpg)
or you could do what I did and swap an undertail exhaust from an S2R 800 or 1000 by Termi or Zard and buy a Marvin mid-pipe.  My old S2R and my current S4R
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/montey2005/wife-1.jpg)

Two words, gold wheels.  ;)

Those shorty Termi's are nice. If was looking for exhaust, they would be near the top of the list.

problem is i no longer have stock exhaust and therefore, no udder.  i do however have an email from double dog (the pic above on the streetfighter) stating that they will make me a one off system.  just waiting to hear about the cost . . . . [puke]  i imagine it's gonna sting.  but i heard one of those systems on a buddy's streetfighter and it sounds like a pissed off dragon in a fist fight.  i loved it. 

that is pretty sweet too, where would one stumble across this?

would the motovatian Termi fit on an 05 S2R800 with the stock udder system?

IMO the water cooled motors dont lend themselves to the stripped down retro look.  

The S4R is one of the few naked bikes that looks better with a bit of bodywork on it, Ive always wanted to get an s4r and hack up some 999 bodywork into a sort of half fairing in conjunction with a monza bellypan and some CF engine bling.  sort of a cafe evo idea that would play off of the similarities in the engine between the S4R and 999.

edit: like this but with a 999 upper that would be a bit larger (come down lower and come back further)
(http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/192572/images/kijimamonster.jpg)

Congrats on the S4R,

My 06 final edition was still one of the best bikes I ever owned, so you are in for a world of fun.

Now onto mods... the best mods I ever did to my S4R were adding a Bitubo damper and an EVR slipper clutch.

I did actually have the carbon arrow full system like yours does, and while it was great, you are correct that it has a few drawbacks (it will smoke out your right rear turn signal for one).

Which one would I put on it instead? Tough call, I'm going in a custom Arrow header/Comp Werkes cannister direction with the new S4RS, but the double dog exhaust is totally wicked cool, and something we will definitely have to ask them to produce for the S4R and the S4RS series.

Good luck on the build!  [thumbsup]

i REALLY like the fresco cans, i just wished they came in carbon Fiber. SS is too hot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fresco-CF-Conic-Slip-on-Exhaust-Ducati-Mon-696-1100-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem56419401c0QQitemZ370467406272QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fresco-CF-Conic-Slip-on-Exhaust-Ducati-Mon-696-1100-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem56419401c0QQitemZ370467406272QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

Not too sure about that, it was a custom job, but could easily be duplicated.

looks like some strange form of rain gauge to me... im not a fan.

who made that square underseat exhaust can? are they available for the s4r??

Well I'm not a fan of any water cooled monster, but I think that is pretty slick. I hate water cooled Monsters, because it goes against the whole naked bike theme.  ;)

what?! You hate something  ;D

I WILL one day own a monoposto bike and it WILL have one of those DoubleDog moto cans.  Until then, I fear for the comfort of my passenger.  Namely, the ability of their right boot NOT to catch on fire. 

I like that one off Termi kit, but it looks like one of the DDMoto's, but without the finishing touches.  Just kinda, "make the beast with two backs it, let's put the can there".

ya, almost seems like it should just go underneath.  but i do however like the idea even though i'm not a huge fan of zeee termis. 

Shift Tech makes that for the Street Fighter:

http://www.shift-tech-carbon.com/onlineshop/product_info.php?info=p215_SF-CUSTOM-GP-STYLE-2in1-EXHAUST-WITH-TERMIGNONI-GP-SILENCER.html (http://www.shift-tech-carbon.com/onlineshop/product_info.php?info=p215_SF-CUSTOM-GP-STYLE-2in1-EXHAUST-WITH-TERMIGNONI-GP-SILENCER.html)

 [laugh] [laugh] [drink]

I still love red head(ers).

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll176/nordog59/S4RS2008-06RightSide.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/22873b09.jpg)

This bike has more than enough power for the street, so all my favorite mods have been cosmetic:
colored swingarm to match frame;
hide/re-route wires (esp. starter/solenoid);
re-route fuel lines;
low-slung exhaust;
lower headlight/gauges (especially if you have clip-ons);
airbox removal;
replace radiator overflow bottle w/smaller unit;
anodize fork tubes;
remove cast lines from lower triple and match lower triple to upper (color);
smaller/black radiator;
wheel color something/anything other than black (my bike's were white from the factory).

Several of these mods make the bike more "see through," which I think is cool.

I have and 04' S4R and I love the look of the Zard CF undertail exhaust.  I currently have some Silmotor Titamnium or SS w/e full system and dont care for the look of it much.  Sounds great but I will get the Zards ASAP financially. 

Anyone looking to trade hint, hint.

Here is my 06 Final Edition with QD midpipe and Fresco slip-ons.  They sound amazing, but I like several others am looking for something different.  I really want a QD EX-Box.

(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8423/dsc00720gd2.jpg)
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8493/dsc00719xo7.jpg)

ok, that is a sexy ass monster man.  well done!

three questions
1. what kind of clip ons and are they above or below triple (hard to make out in pic)
2. where the HELL did you get those belt covers
3. wanna trade exhausts?   ;D [coffee]  - i would be willing to do that for you.  you seem like a nice guy

if you ever get an exbox, id buy those slip ons off you in a minute, i LOVE those fresco slip ons!!!! i just cant justify buying them unless i got them used since i dont like loud exhaust. lol

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN2363-1.jpg)

1. Cycle Cat.  They mount on top of the triple.
2. The belt covers are by Rizoma, and I think they're still available.  I bought my set off a board member who had them powdercoated gloss black.  I really like seeing the cam pulleys.
3.  :D  This is my fifth exhaust: stock, Termi shotguns/Spareshack header, stock udder, ExBox, Boom Tubes.   [laugh]  The Boom Tubes are nice.  Maybe a set will pop-up for sale, and you can snag them.

great looking cockpit man!  is that a buell windscreen? or something specific to ducs?

i love these too i think i would like them better if they were split on either side up under the tail a bit more . .. but that bike looks sweet man.  one of my favorite color combos.  this was option #2 and before i called the guy back it was sold

Thanks!

windscreen: http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ZU-C0140/Bodywork-Carbon/ZU-C0140.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/ZU-C0140/Bodywork-Carbon/ZU-C0140.html)

good ol jeff!  i shoulda known.  also, speeddog told me you've been creating those smaller rads  [beer]  shall we pm and chat?

This is my Azrael.    

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/28273657@N07/3079381786/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/28273657@N07/5541162551/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/28273657@N07/5541162935/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/28273657@N07/5541743710/)

Hmmmm.  Somehow I am technologically challenged to this image process.  LOL.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28273657@N07/5541162551/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/28273657@N07/5541162551/#)


There are a few pics here.

wooooooow man, that is a great lookin ride!  i dig the paint too.  well done

Thank you.

Basically your bike, with some mods.   Same exhaust even.   

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5138/5541940346_2d246b144f_b.jpg)
Do you have any baffles on that exhaust?

I sure do.

They are metal internal baffles that I put in myself to create some resemblence of back pressure.

The exhaust started out as a Carby Arrow Full Syst.  I was utterly irritated that the exhaust had to be partly removed to take the rear tire off.   So I created what I thought was a compliment to the cafe' theme I was shooting for.

The baffles are directly under the foot peg.   They are in the middle segment of the exhaust, the last few inches of straight pipe.  Some bending, cutting of the baffles had to be done.

She actually has no airbox as well.  If you look through the trellis, you can see the forward pod filter.

I lost top end (which is not exactly significant in the first place) for a 10 bhp boost in midrange.  This is all with a custom map for the PC III usb from DUCSEA.   

This pic is right before packing her up for the 2010 USGP in Monterey.   

I must say that if you have not tasted clipons on the Monster Series of bikes, it is like having a shot of vodka with every meal.   Very nice, great feeling, but after excess, it kinda hurts.

I wouldn't ever go back to the high bar.   I love it.

Any videos of it online?

Why YES my Good Man,...

Three that I know of currently.

MOTOCORSA TRACKDAY AUG 2010 PATRICK WAVE.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cUSVEq8Bn8#normal)
(848s and a handful of 1098s and 1198s)

MOTOCORSA TRACKDAY AUG 2010 PASTA EATERS.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRPtJsHsh5g#normal)
(MV F4 1000 on the right in the first couple of seconds, Desmosidicci on the left as I give chase, handful of 1198s)


MOTOCORSA TRACKDAY AUG 2010     1.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgtftgi661g#normal)
(only the music from the Desmoquattro, yes, that is a second D16RR)

Enjoy.   There is a vid that will be uploaded from Mt St Helens soon.  It is from 2009 though.

How did you cut the exhaust?

@cafeducati - when the directions said to mount your clip-ons below the triple clamp, they meant the top triple clamp.   ;D

Jeebus they're low!!!

Heath, the exhaust was thermal coated and then cut with a dremel using a fiber blade.  In hindsight, the coating should have happened AFTER the cutting.  What was I thinking.

LOL, thank you DucHead.  I ride her long distance like that, and it pains in between the shoulder blades and neck, but it is worth it.

Clipons 1-2 inches up might be wisest, but I do not want to change mine, I adore the dedicated position.

The pegs touch on the track, so that needs to be addressed.

Ugly Duckling, have you taken off your rear wheel yet?

not sure what you mean? 

I think he means that your exhaust prevents wheel removal, so the cans (and maybe the link pipes) must be removed first.  That's how my Termis were.

Yes, that is what I meant.  I should have expanded on the question a little more.

I love the look of the Arrows, but it frustrates me to be forced to remove part of the exhaust system to get to a single sided swingarm that facilitates a 28 second rear tire/rim removal.

What options are you looking at for your S4R?
What exhuasts are you considering?

The Quat Exbox is a fine item.

ahhh, roger that.  no, i have not.  speeddog is in the process of masterminding and fabricating a custom exhaust setup for me since double dog, moto creations, and xbox are all out of the s4r game.  so, we're goin backyard custom with valley ducati!!!  should be sweet.  nick is a lunatic. 

Sweet.

Dude, I am excited to see it.

you and me both.  i haven't slept since i left there yesterday to talk about it.

That

They are just crazy nakid superbikes with zero rise clipons.  After doing that and the rearsets on mine I  feel like I am riding a sofa when on a 1098....such a relaxed riding position.

I highly recommend the Sato rearsets...very nice.  Super high though.  The plus side is I have only scrubbed my riding boots once since installing them!!!

+1 for crazy aggressive riding position on Monsters! [beer]

heath - do you have any audio of those pipes?

That bike is cafeducati 's bike.  He posted some track videos after I asked if he had a sound clip. [in this thread]

ah, yes.  i have a mild case of retardation.  only mild though.

 [laugh]  Me too! 

after a few mods:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5301/5697899264_c682d6bd08_b.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3585/5697324399_c1f8d39a87_b.jpg)
Arrow full exhaust with carbon fiber cans
Power commander
Cycle Cat frame sliders
MW  billet bottom triple clamp (hard anodized black)
Rizoma top triple clamp and clip ons (hard anodized black)
Rizoma billet reservoirs
Rizoma Sportline billet grips
Rizoma Reverse Retro mirrors
Evoluzione clutch slave
CRG shorty levers
Speedymoto rearsets
Speedymoto Kukri pressure plate
Speedymoto 5 spoke clutch cover
Evo Tech radiator guard
CNC billet frame plugs
SSR billet water pump housing
DP aluminum road racing front fender (hard anodized black)
Hard black anodized fork tubes
Blacked out brake components
carbon fiber belt covers
carbon fiber radiator end covers
lowered and blacked out headlight and gauges
blacked out swingarm
removed side covers and wires/fuel lines rerouted
low profile billet turn signals w/smoked lenses
tail chop with billet frame plugs
billet sprocket cover

Hate away :D

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/TheoAftonomos/DUcati%20S4Rt/s4rs.jpg)

i still think that is one of the best stock color combos ever.  i love that bike . .. did you figure out why it was running poorly?

Schwing!wow hot bike, levers stick out like turds in a punchbowl but nevermind, looks great. Sproioioioioingggg  [thumbsup]

i know, i hate them.  courtesy of the previous owner and i shoulda anodized them but thought they might look good but, uhhhhhh, nope.  anyway.  getting closer and thx!  now need some under engine exhaust and gold wheels.

Seems like it was the gas.  Until I get the new battery in, I won't be able to verify it.

In the 10 mins it spent idling, no-load revving the motor went from popping/struggling to get above 5k to zinging up and down like it used to.  Hopefully under load it she will be her old self again.

good, i hope it's cheap and easy.  nothing more frustrating than staring at a beautiful bike that's not acting right.