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Title: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: the_Journeyman on March 14, 2011, 08:01:42 PM
So...

Christchurch earthquake, two times over really, September 2010 and again in February 2011, crater collapse in Hawaii just a week or so ago, and then the huge Japan earthquake.  Seems the tectonic places along the ring of fire are doing a bit more moving than usual.

My rum-freed thoughts:

Global warming.  So what are the global rises in sea level?  Are is the small amount enough to cause a considerable change in pressure on the already active tectonic plates in the ring of fire to cause these recent events?

Discuss.  I would love to see what people think.  It's ok if you think I'm off my rocker and crazy.

JM
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: pennyrobber on March 14, 2011, 08:14:35 PM
Neh. Even a couple meters of pressure head increase is nothing compared to the ridiculously high pressures taking place in tectonic activity.   
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: WarrenJ on March 14, 2011, 08:27:05 PM
Something I read recently is that British and Russian Scientists had been looking at the positions of Jupiter and Saturn in relation to the Sun and the Earth and predicted high earthquake activity through the 20th of March due to tidal forces the gas giants put on the sun. 
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: DesmoLu on March 14, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
According to this girl, who apparently put a restraining order on her own brain quite some time ago, its ALL BECAUSE OF ATHEISTS!
GOD IS SO GOOD!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UmotTE-VlY#normal)
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Timmy Tucker on March 14, 2011, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: DesmoLu on March 14, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
According to this girl, who apparently put a restraining order on her own brain quite some time ago, its ALL BECAUSE OF ATHEISTS!
GOD IS SO GOOD!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UmotTE-VlY#normal)

When my grandmother tells me I need to find a nice christian girl and settle down, is that the kinda girl she means?






Cause I'm thinking this is a much better option:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1171/535181759_05eae79972.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Howie on March 14, 2011, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: DesmoLu on March 14, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
According to this girl, who apparently put a restraining order on her own brain quite some time ago, its ALL BECAUSE OF ATHEISTS!

She can't be for real (I hope) [bang]
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: RAT900 on March 14, 2011, 10:29:59 PM
Oh I think she is for real....her number is legion....

weak minds seek easy answers

and psychologically/emotionally desperate people need someone to blame

developing a profound spiritual/existential faith is one make the beast with two backs of a lot harder to do

than dressing up in the garments of a dogmatic faith that masquerades as the answer

the former takes an enormous amount of humility...to accept that we are in the service of an unknown purpose

the latter claims piously to "have the answers" hubris unrestrained, the anointed vs. the future hell-burners

the continuum of Virgins tossed into the volcano and fresh Nike sneakers and purple shrouds so you can hitch a ride on a passing comet

the 3 great evils plaguing mankind

are big religion, big business and big government


As for the planet....it is still cooling down, so there is a world (literally) of internal molten physics going own continuously aside from surface climate activity

externally it is subject to all sorts of unknown/undefined/unquantified physics in its relationship to surrounding planets/stars ablah ablah


hmmmm wonder if I am going to get deleted or get this thread locked

Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: He Man on March 14, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
4God+3Religions+2politics = Lock

All were missing is a comment about President Obama being Muslim and this thread is done!
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Kopfjäger on March 14, 2011, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: He Man on March 14, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
4God+3Religions+2politics = Lock

All were missing is a comment about President Obama being Muslim and this thread is done!

Who put you in charge?
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: RAT900 on March 14, 2011, 11:10:46 PM
Quote from: He Man on March 14, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
4God+3Religions+2politics = Lock

All were missing is a comment about President Obama being Muslim and this thread is done!


LOL...good application of math...but if you play the holy-roller cupcake's youtube screed

some of the identified totals increase considerably   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: il d00d on March 14, 2011, 11:13:11 PM
The FSM does exist and He is responsible for all things.  Especially trolls:

coming clean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51gMdlBu53k&feature=channel_video_title#normal)
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: RAT900 on March 14, 2011, 11:17:57 PM
Quote from: il d00d on March 14, 2011, 11:13:11 PM
The FSM does exist and He is responsible for all things.  Especially trolls:

coming clean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51gMdlBu53k&feature=channel_video_title#normal)


LOL   [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: He Man on March 14, 2011, 11:23:13 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on March 14, 2011, 11:07:13 PM
Who put you in charge?

Who destroyed your ability to sense humor?
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: freeclimbmtb on March 15, 2011, 12:21:00 AM
Quote from: He Man on March 14, 2011, 11:23:13 PM
Who destroyed your ability to sense humor?

Every single time I see your avatar I am reminded of my ability to sense humor.
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: lethe on March 15, 2011, 12:53:07 AM
Whether it's oncoming predictions of end of the world scenarios or natural occurrences that will come and go, we are all just along for the ride. Just raise your arms on the downhill parts and try to find something to appreciate about the view. I just concentrate on the small things I do have the ability to change and if a major catastrophe hits my life that was unforeseen and unstoppable anyway, I'll deal with it when it comes.
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Speedbag on March 15, 2011, 04:25:33 AM
Quote from: lethe on March 15, 2011, 12:53:07 AM
Whether it's oncoming predictions of end of the world scenarios or natural occurrences that will come and go, we are all just along for the ride. Just raise your arms on the downhill parts and try to find something to appreciate about the view. I just concentrate on the small things I do have the ability to change and if a major catastrophe hits my life that was unforeseen and unstoppable anyway, I'll deal with it when it comes.

+1

And a big +1 to Rat's lengthy post above.
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: ducpainter on March 15, 2011, 05:00:43 AM
Quote from: RAT900 on March 14, 2011, 10:29:59 PM
Oh I think she is for real....her number is legion....

weak minds seek easy answers

and psychologically/emotionally desperate people need someone to blame

developing a profound spiritual/existential faith is one make the beast with two backs of a lot harder to do

than dressing up in the garments of a dogmatic faith that masquerades as the answer

the former takes an enormous amount of humility...to accept that we are in the service of an unknown purpose

the latter claims piously to "have the answers" hubris unrestrained, the anointed vs. the future hell-burners

the continuum of Virgins tossed into the volcano and fresh Nike sneakers and purple shrouds so you can hitch a ride on a passing comet

the 3 great evils plaguing mankind

are big religion, big business and big government


As for the planet....it is still cooling down, so there is a world (literally) of internal molten physics going own continuously aside from surface climate activity

externally it is subject to all sorts of unknown/undefined/unquantified physics in its relationship to surrounding planets/stars ablah ablah


hmmmm wonder if I am going to get deleted or get this thread locked


Stating that the problems of man relate to the three things is different from discussing them...or ranting how one political/religious figure is the cause.

BTW...you are right on the money.
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: RAT900 on March 15, 2011, 05:45:35 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 15, 2011, 05:00:43 AM
Stating that the problems of man relate to the three things is different from discussing them...or ranting how one political/religious figure is the cause.

BTW...you are right on the money.

There's an old saying

Religion works for folks who don't want to go to hell

Spirituality works for folks who have already been to hell

and have no desire to go back   ;)
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: ducpainter on March 15, 2011, 05:48:43 AM
never heard that one.
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Monsterlover on March 15, 2011, 06:35:42 AM
Me neither. Good one.
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Monster Dave on March 15, 2011, 11:26:34 AM
Noone gets out alive.

Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: ducpainter on March 15, 2011, 01:37:13 PM
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 15, 2011, 11:26:34 AM
Noone gets out alive.


Stole my line. ;D
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Grappa on March 15, 2011, 03:11:30 PM
Both the videos posted only yesterday have been removed from YouTube.  Mysterious.  RAT900, you are spot on about everything in your post except for the 3 evils.  IMHO, there is only one evil plaguing mankind.  Stupidity.
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: RAT900 on March 15, 2011, 09:12:13 PM
or in the words of Albert Einstein:

"The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits."
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: lethe on March 16, 2011, 12:43:38 AM
Quote from: RAT900 on March 15, 2011, 09:12:13 PM
or in the words of Albert Einstein:

"The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits."
but at least stupidity gets very predictable the longer you stare at it, the only thing it's really unpredictable with is its timing
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: BoDiddley on March 16, 2011, 12:58:04 AM
Quote from: lethe on March 16, 2011, 12:43:38 AM
but at least stupidity gets very predictable the longer you stare at it, the only thing it's really unpredictable with is its timing

"One for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, now go cat go"   You have to think hard to get it!
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: akmnstr on March 16, 2011, 01:22:33 PM
Since moving to Texas I have seen stupidity in more forms than I ever imagined.  Who knew that there were so many stupid things one could think, say, or do!

Back to the original topic.  I do recall a presentation in a scientific context on if sea-level rise and climate change can be related to increase plate movement.  I'm having a stupid moment myself, because I can't remember what the answer was.   :-\


Just remember, there is no cure for stupid  :'(
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Triple J on March 16, 2011, 02:08:10 PM
There's no way climate change (i..e global warming) would have an impact. The tectonic plates move due to convection in the earth's mantle. It is generally agreed that the earth's core is slowly cooling, with the mantle temp. ranging from 900*F to >7,000*F. There is no way that a few degree rise (or cooling) in the average atmospheric temperature (57*F to 59*F) could have any effect on the earth's mantle temperature. It would be like saying your 500*F oven can tell the difference between whether you keep your house at 68*F or 70*F.

Regarding water pressure...the average depth of the oceans is 12,430ft. This equates to an average pressure on the crust from the oceans of 794,277 lb/sf (density of seawater = 63.9 lb/cf). A 5-ft rise in seal level (which is much more than predicted) would equate to an extra 320 lb/sf of force on the crust. This is about a 0.04% increase...which is negligible.

Climate change can only effect surficial things (i.e. weather, vegetation, etc)...not plate tectonics.
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: lethe on March 16, 2011, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Triple J on March 16, 2011, 02:08:10 PM
There's no way climate change (i..e global warming) would have an impact. The tectonic plates move due to convection in the earth's mantle. It is generally agreed that the earth's core is slowly cooling, with the mantle temp. ranging from 900*F to >7,000*F. There is no way that a few degree rise (or cooling) in the average atmospheric temperature (57*F to 59*F) could have any effect on the earth's mantle temperature. It would be like saying your 500*F oven can tell the difference between whether you keep your house at 68*F or 70*F.

Regarding water pressure...the average depth of the oceans is 12,430ft. This equates to an average pressure on the crust from the oceans of 794,277 lb/sf (density of seawater = 63.9 lb/cf). A 5-ft rise in seal level (which is much more than predicted) would equate to an extra 320 lb/sf of force on the crust. This is about a 0.04% increase...which is negligible.

Climate change can only effect surficial things (i.e. weather, vegetation, etc)...not plate tectonics.
shhhh, you're no fun with your numbers and math and applying it in some boooooring sensible manner
Panic! Fear! Now THAT sells newspapers/blogs/websites/iodine pills
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: The Architect on March 16, 2011, 04:47:14 PM
Triple J's a witch!  Only a witch would use that type of logic!  Let's see if he floats!  Quick get a mob together.................
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Jarvicious on March 16, 2011, 06:08:12 PM
Burn him.  BURNNNNN HIM!!!

On that note, math FTW.  Well done :)
Title: Re: My brain should have a restraining order
Post by: Bun-bun on March 17, 2011, 03:43:13 AM
Quote from: The Architect on March 16, 2011, 04:47:14 PM
Triple J's a witch!  Only a witch would use that type of logic!  Let's see if he floats!  Quick get a mob together.................


Methinks we need a Monty Python thread on this forum.