Ducati Monster Forum

Just wanted to say hi to all the DFW DMF'ers,

I'm a complete noob when it comes to anything motorcycle (and therefore, Ducati) related.  Been a long time admirer of bikes and in particular, Ducati's.  Just love the Ducatisti culture and the love for your vehicles each of you has.  I have been a car guy for most of my adult life (25 years old, former e36 and current e46 M3 owner), but thought I'd finally take the plunge and start learning about what riding is all about.   I feel like I've gotten to the point in my life where I've moved beyond wanting to showboat and do other things that may jeopardize my safety on a bike, so that's why I thought I could start making the transition now.  Instead of wanting to go straight into things with a GSXR or R1/R6 like I used to back in high school/college, I believe the Ducati Monster is the perfect bike for me.  Beautiful engineering, just like any BMW, Porsche, or Ferrari.  Handsome curves and lines.  Power to spare when opening up on the highway.  Rider friendly in terms of comfort to cruise around the city.

First thing's first, I went looking around for a solid Ducati Monster forum and I believe I've found it here at dmf.  I look forward to any and all of your insight and wisdom when it comes to making my journey into riding a safe and exhilarating experience. 

Next thing is signing up for a motorcycle safety course.  I've never been on a bike before, but I appreciate and respect it's power and ability to throw me off like a rag doll if I'm not constantly engaged while operating it.  I would really appreciate any advice you all have on recommending where I can find the best beginner motorcycle training program in the DFW area.  I feel like this is the best investment for me, as I want to possess the necessary skills to be a great and responsible rider.

Finally, my first motorcyle purchase... I've heard multiple routes which people have taken on buying their first bike.  Purchase a used Kawasaki 250 first... Buy a used 620ie or 695 that way you don't feel as sad when you lay it down and dent/scratch it... Go ahead and splurge on a new 696...  I'd love to hear more feed back from you all as to what you would do in my situation.  I have a purchase price ceiling of about $8-8.5k USD, but purchasing a used 695 for around $5,5000-6,000 seems almost a mute point to me, as I believe I can find a dealer that would sell me a 2010 696 for $8,000 OTD.  To not have to deal with questioning how the previous owner(s) treated the bike and whether it's been abused/damaged is not worth the $2,000 to me.  But if there were a solid 4-6 year old 695 that I could get be had for around $3,000-4,000 for me to learn on and not have trouble selling or take too much of a loss on if I were to resell it in a year or two to upgrade, I'd definitely consider that route.

Oh, and if/when I make my first purchase...  Who would you all recommend for any future maintenance/repair work?  I know how important and valuable it is to develop a good relationship with a trusted mechanic (i.e. had to have the engine pulled out of my e46 M3 3 years back to reseal every gasket due to oil leaking out of it  :'().  I wouldn't go to anyone else for my cars other than the mechanic I've done work with over the past 6 years in Carrollton.

Thanks again in advance for your warm welcome and I look forward to learning from and building upon a mutual love/respect for the Ducati heritage with all of you!

- Jasen

Don't forget to budget yourself up to $1k or so for helmet/jacket/gloves/boots and riding pants if you want those too, but definately the first 4.

What bike you get as a starter only has to do with how responsible you think that you are.  In the end, it all comes down to your throttle hand, but the air cooled bikes are fantastic to start with.  Plenty of power but you probably won't loop the bike if you make a mistake on the gas.

Thanks for the advice, Jester.  I forgot about the riding gear and would love to get some advice on that as well as motorcycle insurance.  In my mind I've set a max budget of $8-8.5k for the initial purchase of the motorcycle, but can allocate out another $600-1,000 for helmet, jacket, gloves, boots, pants, etc.  I was thinking it would be about $500 per year for insurance and maybe $500-1,000 per year in maintenance/repair costs.  Does that sound accurate? 

Glad to hear that the air-cooled engine of the Monster is a nice bike to start with and shouldn't get me in too much trouble if I make a newbie mistake here and there.

- Jasen

welcome! 
Here are a few to look into  ;D
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/2263522673.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/2263522673.html)
next up with the famous dry clutch (I know the owner and can vouch for this bike).
 http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/2250900423.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/2250900423.html)

Hi Jasen, welcome.

Just sit back and relax as Muskrat does all of the work for you.............Hell, he already started! He likes nothing more than spending YOUR money. Just give him the parameters of your purchase and watch him go.


Mark (in Allen)

Welcome Jasen!  I started on my 695 and think it was
a good random decision for me (sport bike wise).

Thanks for the warm invite, fellas!  :)

@Mark: I can tell!  [laugh]

@Muskrat: Thanks for doing some initial research for me already!  I like the '07 S2R a lot, but it seems like it'd be too much bike for a brand new rider like me, right?  That 620 Dark looks really nice and I'd definitely consider it if the owner has all the documentation and the bike has a clean title/bill of health.  Does anyone know the owner of this one?  What's a fair price on an '06 620?  What are some advantages/disadvantages to the 3 generations (620, 695, and 696) of monsters?  I was hoping to not spend over $3,500 if I was to go with a 620, as it's 2 generations from the current model being sold new at the dealerships.

Cheers,

Jasen

Thanks!  I'd really love to purchase a new bike, but I'm afraid I'd lay it down by making some dumb mistake and then it'd be $$$$ to repair the damage I caused.  Is it likely/probable I'll lay down my first bike if I'm not doing anything crazy?  If not, I think I'd go with a brand new bike over a used one.  But if it's almost 100% certain I'll drop the bike no matter how careful I am riding it, I'd like to learn on a less-expensive used one (is fixing a 620 or 695 much cheaper than a 696?) and upgrade once I've gotten the hang of things.

 [laugh]  Sorry to hear of your troubles, but your comment seemed to contradiction.  I give you crap about it since I have had an e46 (e.g. window regulator) and e90 now. 

Mark can't talk, hell he can't even make up his mind of late.

The S2R shouldn't be too much bike if you respect it - like all bikes.  The 620 is what I started on but quickly tired of it and then onto an S2R 800 (these are gems and very forgiving).

Hmmm... Very tempting  :)  Do you know if your buddy is flexible on the price of the bike?

Welcome Jasen!

Just my two cents.  I started riding back in Aug 2010 on a 695 having never been on a street bike before (lots of quads way back when).  While I don't have anything to compare it to the learning curve has been very smooth.  The bike is extremely forgiving and the power doesn't come on unexpectedly.  I liked it so much I got one for Mindy who is currently making great progress.  I'm just now getting to the point where I notice the difference of the more powerful bikes but I have no intentions of trading up as my skills are still below the bikes full potential. 

Also, yes, Muskrat will spend your money faster than a ball player's trophy wife... but your bike will be better for it, even if you credit score isn't. 

Happy hunting.   [moto] 

Welcome to the board and to the sickness known as Ducati ownership...  [evil]

So many choices...but it looks like you are on the right track.  [thumbsup]



+1


btw--I am also one of Skrat's victims....

don't listen to anyone else, I'll help improve your credit score  [evil]

As for the price I can't say.  I hate to speak for him but I know he's been selling it for a while.  If memory serves me he still has some after-market add-ons and I can vouch for some of the powder coating as we did it at the same time by the same guy.  Just PM me and I'll forward you his number if he doesn't respond via email from craigslist. 

Welcome aboard, Jasen!  Check out MTC's schedule here https://www.eoffice-online.net/?page=387 (https://www.eoffice-online.net/?page=387) for the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's Basic Rider Course.  Tons of info here: http://www.texasmtc.com/FAQ.html. (http://www.texasmtc.com/FAQ.html.)  I essentially lived on my dirt bike when I was a kid, then I didn't touch a motorcycle for 20 years.  The MSF class was an excellent 'welcome back to two wheels' experience for me, and I think it was well worth the time and money.

There are a lot of experienced people on this forum that can give you great advice as to which Monster will suit you best.  I went the 'small bike' route and bought a new DR-Z400SM three years ago.  It was great to have that 'new bike' feeling... and being a dirt bike, I didn't hurt it at all when I dropped it (only twice).  I put over 14,000 miles on it, and then I bought a Hypermotard last May.  As everyone has mentioned, the air cooled Ducs are very forgiving... and a total hoot.  [thumbsup] 

Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone!  Can't wait to meet you all soon (are a lot of people going to be at the Diavel party next weekend?).

@system error & CajunR:  Thanks for sharing your first motorcycle experiences with me.  Hearing that the air cooled engines on the Monster are quite forgiving and predictable makes me feel a bit more comfortable about starting on this level of bike.

Is the MTC better than B.E.S.T. (Bikers Elite Skills Training) up in Denton?  I was looking at the different options in our area for taking my beginner course to obtain the MSF endorsement and B.E.S.T. seemed to have the most info on its website.

@caffeinejunkee: I'm looking forward to catching the "bug"!  [evil]  I plan on heading over to AMS and maybe European Cycle Sports over in East Plano this afternoon after work to go check out the 696 and some helmets, jackets, and pants. 

What is the consensus opinion on these dealerships?  I think I'll probably shop online for my gear unless any of you recommend I purchase from these dealers here.

@muskrat: I think you're gonna be getting me in a lot of trouble!  [beer]  To be honest, I think that his S2R 1000 is a spectacular bike in terms of performance, but I think I'm a little uncomfortable purchasing a 1,000cc as my first bike.  As I read on this forum earlier that I think rings really true, "better to ride a slow (albeit I don't think a 695 or 696 is slow by any stretch of the imagination) bike fast than a fast bike slow".  [thumbsup]

I'd love your help in finding a pre-owned 695 or 696 that has been well taken care of (i.e. hasn't been laid down or in any accidents).  You seem to have hawk eyes for finding great bikes!

Shopping online is fine for gear, but I'd go to some local stores and try on the different brands before hand.  Different manufacturers vary in fitment and size, so even if you're looking for a better deal online, I'd put it on locally before you purchase.  Helmets are the same way.  Each will fit your head differently and some helmets suit some head shapes better than others.  Moto Liberty and Cycle Gear might be good starting points.

Thanks for the heads up on the stores around Dallas.  Moto Liberty is literally 2 minutes from my office. Looks like I know where I'm headed for lunch today! [thumbsup]

Cycle Gear in Plano is a pretty good place as well. The nice thing about Cycle Gear is that if they don't have something in the store and you buy it from them online and you are unhappy with the purchase (wrong size or whatever) you can bring it into the store and return it.



Mark

If you're worried about the 1,000cc's don't be.  The bike is exceptional and easy to handle IMO but the 695/620 series are cheaper to get your hands on.  That said there's a certain person on this board who has a 695 that will blow your mind.  This guy runs in front of super bikes all the time so don't be deceived by cc's on a bike.
I would be happy to join you on your hunt and even go with you to look at bikes.  I'm a sales person by trade so it's what I love to do daily.  :D

695 is fine if u want. I ride one and the biggest upgrade i did was on the rider. Learning how to maximize the performance the bike offers. Track days, books and even watching races are alot of help. Watch the way some guys move around on the bike and lines they take. U can learn from just paying attention. Plus if anybody tells u a 695 is to slow tell them to come to a group ride then say that. Lisa, mark, cj, ronr, richd, lyd, dan and some others have all ridden with a 695 and seen what it can do when pushed to the limit!!

Yeah, I am going to have to call BS on your statement that I can testify to what you do on your bike Chris. Your shit is SO far ahead of me I have NO IDEA WTF you are doing, other than hauling serious ass.


Mark

I'm with stupid (AKA Mark).  :o

Point being the rider makes the bike so buy what you're comfortable with in the end.

Thanks for all the great advice, fellas!  I agree completely that the rider is what makes or breaks (no pun intended) a motorcycle.  I think it's best for me to start off on a 695 or 696, as I think it has enough low end torque to keep me jazzed with riding it for a long time without having too much power under me that I can't yet control.

I had a great time chatting with Peter over at Moto Liberty during lunch.  Tried on some helmets (Arai Vector 2, Arai RX-Q, and the 2010 Bell Star Cerwinske) to see what fits my the crown of my head the best.  He also recommended I spend some time over at AMS with Marty and Jeff, so I'm about to head over there to go see their inventory this afternoon.  [thumbsup]

Cheers,

Jasen

Um, if you start going to look at new bikes your "budget" is about to take a dump. Hell, you just might ride out of there on a Streetfighter or something!

Best of luck "Just saying NO".

Mark (I'm not stupid, 'Skrat is stupider  :P)

I will add a vote for the hypermotard, as it is also very forgiving, and nice upright riding position, which is great when you are just starting out.  They are very tall in the saddle though, which is a big minus if you are inseam challenged. 

The air cooled monsters are all great(I had an m750 starting out) starting with a 695 or larger (s2r, 696, 796 etc) is terrific.  The bikes ride well, and are cool and unique.  Good luck on the search!

I'm still with STUPID.......saying NO will be hard as hell.  If you do buy new buy the 796; budget be dammed. Or pm me and we'll go shopping. 

Met Marty down at AMS this afternoon and he seems like a really cool guy.  He spent about 1 1/2 hours walking me around the dealership, showing me Jeff's garage full of vintage Ducs, and going over the features of the 696 with me.  I finally got a chance to sit on this beauty and I must say, it is incredible how light it is and how comfortable of a sitting posture the monster provides.  Don't know yet if I can say I will pull the trigger on buying a new 696, but I do plan on taking it for a test ride after I take the basic safety course at MSI and getting my license in a few weeks. And you guys are right, it is AWFULLY hard to say no to buying a new bike when you're down at AMS like ya'll mentioned!

Muskrat, I'd still love your help in finding a 695 or 696 (preferably a 696) in very good condition if it can be had for between $4-6k.  Is this a reasonable price range?

- Jasen

You're screwed if you ride that 696, you'll never buy used if you do.................

Give up and get down with the sickness..............


Mark

('Skrat is the dumb-er-est)

how far are you willing to travel to get one?
Here's an S2R 800 with a single sided swing arm, exhaust and more tid-bits that are worth looking into http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2264100831.html (http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2264100831.html)
another one but I would offer 5 tops http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2263514644.html (http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2263514644.html)
like white with after-market pipes? http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2266617834.html (http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2266617834.html)
decked out with a steering damper (IMO the best upgrade) http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2261025377.html (http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2261025377.html)
Red and a 696 http://houston.craigslist.org/mcd/2258544915.html (http://houston.craigslist.org/mcd/2258544915.html)

The S2R 800 is a great buy IMO but if the 6k service has not been done plan on spending $800 bucks or so therefore negotiate. What I don't get are the brakes which did not come on this bike originally so that's worth some good bucks.

more local
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/mcy/2265974390.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/mcy/2265974390.html)
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bar/2263537362.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bar/2263537362.html)
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mcy/2246219119.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mcy/2246219119.html)

just a few to ponder!!

the 800!

Welcome to the Ducati madness, Jasens Deli.  My best advice to you is to turn back now - it's not too late [laugh]  And for godssake - who steered you over to AMS?!?  Kid in a candy store for sure... Just kiss all your cash goodbye [evil]  Don't ask me how I know  [laugh]

Seriously, glad you've decided on a Duc.  And I'd have to agree with everyone else - it would be hard to go wrong on one of the air-cooled bikes.  Monsters rock; very light, linear power (no weird surge of mega-power higher in the rev range) and the handling will keep you involved and entertained for a long time.  And because the motor is air-cooled, the maintenance costs are reasonable (odd seeing "reasonable" and "maintenance" together in a Ducati thread, I know...  [bang] )

At any rate, good luck with your search  [beer]

Lisa

Thanks to everyone for helping me search for a preowned Monster!  So many choices...

@Muskrat: You're truly an advocate for the S2R and I think you're starting to sway me.  ;D  I really like both of the black S2R's (the 800 & 1000) in Austin!  I'm still really worried that that just might be too much bike for me.  Is an S2R as forgiving as say a 695 or a 696?  Also, what value would you put on each of these bikes?  They both seem to be very well taken care of from the naked eye and have the proper documentation (all service docs, clear title, red key (do all pre-696's have red keys?)).  I'd love to hear from you experts as to what you believe a great deal as well as a fair price is on these two bikes based on their model year, the way they are configured, and the condition they're in.

Thanks in advance!

- Jasen

The S2R is fantastic.  I had one before moving on to the sbk.  I'm personally a big fan of the dual shotgun exhaust and single sided swingarm on that bike.  Its much more sexy than the dual swingarm bikes and the view from the right side is hot.  ( no offense to you 695/696er's ).  Plus tire changes are faster and its easier to clean.

I'm not a flyweight rider so someone lighter might have a different opinion, but the 1000 will pull up the front end fairly easy if you whack open the throttle.  The 800 will not.  However, the S2R 1000 has adjustable front forks and better brakes, where the 800 does not, so /shrug its up to you.  The 1000 is the better bike and what I would have done if I could do it all over again.

I think both are great bikes, the 1000 will give you a little more growing room, but neither will disappoint.  In reality, any bike will chuck you on the ground with hamfisted riding techniques, so as long as you're smooth, you can control whatever you buy.  Good luck with your decisions!   [thumbsup]

Also, I believe they stopped the red key after 2008 models.  Earlier models should come with it.

Get what u want that is within ur budget otherwise u will not be happy.  Just make sure u r adult enough to understand ur limitations so u dont hurt urself or the bike.

Keeping in mind that buying the bike is the cheapest part.  Soon comes the gear, insurnace, maintenance, upgrades, tickets  [leo] (my fault), and if you are like muskrat, the ducati coffee maker, coffee cups, t-shirts, mouse pad, alarm clock, pjs, toothbrush....

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

He didn't tell you about his underwear?

Pretty sure those say harley. That way if he craps in them its no big deal!!

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Couple more places for gear:
newenough.com - now http://www.motorcyclegear.com/ (http://www.motorcyclegear.com/)
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/ (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/)

Both have good prices... and enough of a selection to make your head spin.  [thumbsup]

Jester summarized it perfectly for me.  The S2R 800 is a great bike and almost identical in power and torque as the 695/696.  I really miss mine but I don't regret getting the S4R of course.  Frankly you wont be overwhelmed by the S2R 800.  And when you're done with the purchase hide the credit cards and savings account information because you will be sick like the rest of us here. 

Or have a couple of kids...  [bang]  [cheeky]

they don't make underwear, I checked.  And besides the carbon might be itchy.

I can already see how addicting modding your bike and buying new gear is gonna be!

Does the S2R have a metal tank or plastic one?  I've read about the bulging tank issue.  Does anyone with a 696/796 or any other model that has the plastic tank have experience in dealing with the dealer on replacing their bulged tank?

I've heard it's cheaper to replace the plastic tank on the 696/796 now because you basically just replace the plastic cover as opposed to having to buy a full metal tank if it gets dented.  Marty at AMS also mentioned that I can purchase something (forgot what it's called) that sticks out the two sides of the bike to minimize the damage caused to the frame, tank, etc. if the bike is dropped or laid down.  Does anyone have those installed on their bike and what are your opinions of it?

Thanks fellas!  Gonna stop by Moto Liberty at lunch again today for their St. Patty's Day event.  I'm gonna need to exercise a lot of self-control with this hobby, I think...  [thumbsup]

Hi Jasen,

I have a 696. As you said the new monsters have covers that fit over the plastic tank, I do not know of any real issues with the tank or covers, my monster logo pealed off and AMS replaced the cover under warranty.

They make complete sets of replacement covers for tank, mudguard, nose fairing and seat so you can easily change the look of your bike.

http://www.ducati.com/monster_art/colour_schemes.do (http://www.ducati.com/monster_art/colour_schemes.do)

Marty was talking about sliders, I do not have them but I understand they do the job they are made for, with the monster being naked they are easy to fit and you would not have to cut into any fairing.

The 696 is a great bike, I have had mine for almost 3 years, ride it everyday to work and still get there with a grin on my face.  [moto]

That's awesome to hear, Andy!  How many miles have you put on the bike and how has it held up for you?  Have you had to deal with any mechanical issues with the bike since you ride it so often?

I am just coming up for the 15000 miles service.

The bike is great, only issues have been the tank stickers, mirrors falling off (replaced under warranty with new design, will not happen on new bike) and she cut out a few times when it got cold (696's run lean to pass euro emission tests), AMS made some adjustments and she has been fine for 18 months.

I replaced the front sprocket with 14 tooth one, this helps with pickup in the lower rev range, ie pulling away from a stand still. I also put on the termies, this makes her run a bit smoother and sounds great.

those things are called frame sliders and are sold by just about every board sponsor (look left) and motivation out of austin. I've bought tons of stuff from Jeff at Monsterparts and he's been great. 
So, what are you leaning towards anyway? 

I put frame sliders on Mindy's bike, easy enough to do.  While mine is a 695 I just had the tank replaced through AMS with zero problems.   

+1 to Jeff at Monsterparts too.  [thumbsup]  He's always happy to talk shop and answer questions.

Thanks for the clarification, everyone!

And as for what bike I'm really looking for now, I believe I'm set on going for a 696 with the Termi exhaust + ECU.  Please let me know if you have any friends who are looking to sell theirs or if you come across one online.  If not, hopefully I can get a decent deal for a new one at AMS.

Thanks again for all of your welcomes and advice.

BTW, I ended up picking up an ICON Alliance Tyranny helmet over at Moto Liberty yesterday.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33586272@N02/5537711530/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33586272@N02/5537711530/#)

Would really like a Bell Star Cerwinske Carbon or Arai RX-Q, but I think the ICON is a good one to start with.

Do ya'll have any recommendations on jackets?  I'd like a jacket (or oversuit) I can wear over my work clothes that has an ample amount of protection, but isn't too heavy to where you can't wear it in the Texas heat.  I was thinking about checking out the Alpinestars GP Pro Leather Jacket or Ducati Corse Leather Jacket (eeek, $$$!) by Dianese.  Is Rev It any good?  I'd love any other suggestions y'all have on jackets and gloves.

Thanks everyone,

Jasen

I picked up a Joe Rocket Reactor 2.0 jacket a few weeks ago, and I really like it.  It flows a ton of air and is very comfortable: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/39/402/ITEM/Joe-Rocket-Reactor-2-0-Jacket.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/39/402/ITEM/Joe-Rocket-Reactor-2-0-Jacket.aspx)

For gloves, I abso-freaking-lutely LOVE my Alpinestars GP Plus mits.  When they die, I'm getting another pair!  http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/19748/ITEM/Alpinestars-GP-Plus-Gloves.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/19748/ITEM/Alpinestars-GP-Plus-Gloves.aspx)

Rev'it is awesome stuff IMO.  Good luck finding that "summer" jacket because when you're stuck in traffic you will sweat like hell.  I do have one you can try on and if it fits you can have it for $30 bucks.  It has shoulder, elbow pads you only need to buy the back protector.  Let me know but here's a suggestion also:
http://www.motoliberty.com/prod_detail.asp?Prod_ID=147&ImgId=535 (http://www.motoliberty.com/prod_detail.asp?Prod_ID=147&ImgId=535)
or
http://www.revzilla.com/product/dainese-air-2-textile-jacket (http://www.revzilla.com/product/dainese-air-2-textile-jacket)

and did you look into the 796?

Vanson Vent Max for those 90+ degree days stuck in afternoon traffic. I also keep a water bladder in the tank bag to sip on while riding in the summer.  [thumbsup]

I typically ride textile in the summer and lighter perforated gloves, but even with an air flowing textile jacket, you'll be sweating balls.  There is simply no way around it in the Texas heat.  July/August are arguably non riding months as the heat is almost miserable enough to keep you off the bike.  Most of the riders I see out during those months are squids with a t-shirt, shorts, and flip flops.  Its the only way to stay cool, so that's why I call them non riding months.  At least you won't have to deal with blazing exhaust pipes under your seat like the sbks.  Speaking of which, I've actually had to modify my foot position on my right side peg due to my exhaust catching three ( yes three ) set of jeans on fire. 

I hopped off the bike once and walked into a 7-Eleven and started smelling smoke.  Looked down and my jeans were burning.  It was funny, but I'm pissed about the jeans.  I never had that problem with the stock pipes.  The Termi's are fatter and sit a little farther out than stock, so if I keep my leg wrapped on the bike, sometimes the jeans would flap into the pipe area and light up.

This is another reason why I like my duck.  Hell the pipes on my S2R melted my boots.  Maybe this stuff is just me and my riding style.   [thumbsup]

Ha, I've never caught my pants on fire!  [laugh]

When it's really hot outside, I've worn some lowrider boots that exposed the skin on my lower leg.  It roasted my leg.  I tried to rotate my heel out from the bike, but the radiation heat was really bad.  I try to wear long socks so there is no exposed skin near the pipe.

Holy crap, we have some seriously hardcore Ducatiisti  :o  Screw the lame Corse Shield tattoo - go for the Termi calf "brand" instead   [bow_down]

As far as jackets go, Fieldsheer mesh all the way.  Good price point, lots of hard armor in all the right places, and the stuff lasts.  My first set of riding clothes was a Fieldsheer 2-piece mesh suit.  Bought it in early '05 from MotoLiberty and still have 'em.  I've also had good service from Joe Rocket stuff as well.  A bit more pricey but well made.

And I'll totally in agreement on the Alpinstar gloves; I've had two pair of GP3 leather gauntlet gloves that I LOVE!  Nice and soft new so you're not spending months breaking them in.  I eventually wore a hole in the thumb of the first set after a couple of years; just replaced that set with a new pair.  MotoLiberty has gloves like this for under 60 bucks.   

+1 on what Lisa said.  I think we both wear a similar Fieldsheer jacket in the summer.  It flows air great.  I too wear Alpine Stars gloves and have always thought they were well made and comfy. ( My track/colder weather gloves are AStars, my summer gloves are actually Fieldsheer ).

And +1,000,000 on carrying a Camelbak, Hydrapak, or any other water bladder with some cold H2O in the summer months.  It is BRUTAL out there.  I commute the whole summer, and it gets pretty vicious once it's over 95 or so.  I carry a Platypus Hoser (http://www.amazon.com/Hoser-Hydration-Bladder-by-Platypus/dp/B0014BLUSU (http://www.amazon.com/Hoser-Hydration-Bladder-by-Platypus/dp/B0014BLUSU)) in an Ogio backpack.  The secret is to think cold thoughts, and drink water at every stop light.  [thumbsup]

I've tried a camelback before but the water gets hot too quickly (80% ice cubes/20% water).  Do you pack ice in the backpack with the camelback in there somehow?

But even with cold water, I've become more of a "fair weather" rider lately.  Anything over about 85 degrees and the SBK gets parked and the air-cooled Triumph gets the job.... 

Anything over 95 and I'm in the car  ;D

I just pack it in the padded laptop pocket of my backpack.  I guess it's insulated enough to keep it cool.  The commute it about 45 minutes, and I still have cold water at the last stop light before I get home.  [thumbsup]

Sounds like I definitely need to go with a perforated jacket to endure the Texas heat we'll be seeing in a few months!  Do most of y'all have both a summer and winter jacket?  If not, what's a jacket that works for both warmer weather as well as for cooler weather?

Thanks!

- Jasen

Hi Jasen,

Welcome to riding and to Ducati!  :)

I'm somewhat of an older noob to riding (MSF beginner course during the 2 hottest days of Aug 2009, just after my wife passed away) and I bought my 2008 Multistrada 1100S new. With that said:

1) Hold off buying too much riding apparel until after your rider safety course. Upon completion, Moto Liberty and Cycle Gear both offer a one-time 10% off all items purchased deal. Depending on what you get, the helmet is likely to be the single most expensive item you purchase.

2) Select a bike that's comfortable for you (easy reach to ground, handgrips, comfortable levers such as clutch and front brake as you will use them often in stop/start traffic conditions), then make your decision from there. I come from a "let the bike, weapon or martial arts style select you" background and it sounds like you are prepared to respect your bike...great. But your safety lies between your ability to manage the controls AND also the riding conditions you ride off into. In short, my first bike was a new Multistrada 1100S bought with even more room to grow into.
Your safety will come from practice and your comfort level and confidence while riding...aka, more saddle time (wax on, wax off Buddy).  :)

3) Also think ahead a bit, how tall you are, how much you weigh (don't tell me, I'm 6' 5-1/2" and 250lbs) and whether you intend to ride 2-up (fancy smancy for with someone on the rear of your bike) as I do with my girlfriend. I opted for a stronger suspension spring (an 11 to replace the 9) and my bike handles bumps, dips and railroad tracks 2-up and with full luggage (topcase plus 2 side panniers) either in a touring or a more sporty suspension setting via manual twist of my Ohlins suspension knob.

Key words here are Discount on gear, comfort of bike (no matter the cc) and Respect for its handling and performance and you'll be dy-no-mite!  [thumbsup]
And to anticipate your question, I just clocked 11,500 miles ridden on my bike yesterday before parking her. Again welcome and I look forward to shaking your hand during the Diavel event this Friday.

Regards,
Cleaven

Thanks for the warm welcome, Cleaven!  I'm sorry for the loss of your wife, but it sounds like she's been watching over ya from above.  :)

Thanks for the tips on holding off on purchasing gear until after completing the MSF course (taking it this weekend).  BTW, I am about 5'11, 185 lbs, moderately athletic build.  My height and weight should be a good fit for the Monster, right?  I had a chance to sit on a 696 for the first time and the riding stance felt really nice.  I was able to basically have both my feet flat on the ground as well as felt like I could control the bike should I get in trouble riding at slower speeds due to how light it is (355 lbs., wow!).  I'm looking to putting in a lot of time on the saddle and getting the most out of the experience of motorcycle ownership!  As for riding with an extra passenger, it doesn't seem like the 696 or any other Monster really accommodates a second passenger well.  Don't think my girlfriend feels extremely safe riding on the back of a bike anyway.

Oh and Muskrat, I ended contacting the owner of the black '06 S2R1000 with 7k+ miles in Austin you found for me (decked out with a steering damper (IMO the best upgrade) http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2261025377.html (http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2261025377.html)).  He provided the following information to me:

He is the second owner
Bike has never been wrecked
Has the original hardware (both black keys, red (code) key, owner's manual, oem parts)
Brand new tires (Dunlop R207 race tires)
Bike was stored in a garage (little weather exposure)
Clear title
Temperature sensor was never replaced
Oil change at 3,500 mile intervals using synthetic oil
Maintenance was all privately done (my biggest concern, as I would have liked the bike to have been serviced by an authorized Ducati service garage)
6,000 mile service has not been performed yet (means I'll have to pony up $$$ immediately if I end up purchasing it)

Overall, the owner seems really nice and legitimate.  Would you all have reservations with the fact that he hasn't been getting the bike serviced at an authorized service garage and that the 6,000 mile service wasn't performed even though it's been over 1,000 miles since it should have been done?  I've read that the bikes should actually be serviced at 7,500 miles just like all the '08+ model years.

Thanks for all your advice and input!  Muskrat may have worked his magic and swung me towards purchasing an S2R as opposed to the 696 now...  [evil]

Any input as to the pros and cons of owning a new 696 vs a late model S2R 1000?

I appreciate it everyone, looking forward to meeting you all soon!

- Jasen

The 696/796  family of bikes have a lighter feel (lower cg? less weight) and a shorter reach to the bars and maybe lower seat height than the S2R's.  Mostly an issue if you are not taller than about 5'6"  >:(

In realtion to the Austin bike..............drop his price by $800 to $1000 no negotiation.  I'm very picky so if you spring for beer and a bite to eat somewhere I'd ride down with you or find some business to conduct in Austin and meet you if you're intersted.  I can spot blemishes a mile away.  Did the same thing with System Error a few months ago.  This guy sounds proud, hell we all are, but after-market parts are only worth it to the person doing the selling not the buyer IMO.  You decide but the S2R is slightly higher off the ground than the 696.  I personally like that one in Austin and I'm sure you can have the Duc dealer in Austin take a look at it and certify it's a winner. 
Cons of the 696............no single sided swing arm - it just screams Ducati to me and I love the look.  I've also read that owners, few of them, had some electrical gremlins and had wiring harness changed but I don't know if it's a known recall issue.  I'm a fan of the 796 and for an extra couple of hundred - ok slightly more - you get a different look and peppier engine.
The overdue service is not that big of a deal to me if it's been treated right like regular oil changes and ridden regularly but no flogged.  The belts are the biggest problem and Ducati recommends changing them every two years which I think is crap but it's my risk and I'm willing to accept that.  They are cheap to replace and plenty of people here know how to work on these things like pro's and rarely charge more than beer.  [beer]  I'm no mechanic so I'll just show up to dish and take shit from everyone.

Yep: Insurance will be cheaper on the older bike.   [thumbsup] 

If you want to go with one jacket for starters, I'd look for a full perforated leather jacket that has a removable winter liner.  Outside of very cold weather, the liner will keep you warm until you get into the 40's temp wise.  There is a difference in perforation as well, so I'd try to see the jacket in person, unless online pictures are high quality.  Some perforated jackets are only partial, while others cover a larger frontal area with holes.  The liners just zip in and out when the time comes.

I've got two jackets, two sets of gloves, one pair of boots, a back protector, helmet, and a full one piece track suit.  I would say that is a typical moto wardrobe, but others definately have more of a gear selection than me.

Thanks for offering to accompany me all the way to Austin to check out the bike, Muskrat. That's true DFW Ducatisti brotherhood at its finest!  [thumbsup] After thinking about it a bit more, the hassle of distance and potential for issues with an older bike seem to outweigh the savings and improved performance of a used S2R 1000 over a new 696/796. If the bike was in the DFW area, I'd definitely bring it into Jeff over at AMS to have a look at it. Without having the reassurance of the bike being in top shape and having to deal with making a trip down to check it out and then having to ship the bike back just seems like too much of a hassle for a 6 year old bike that isn't to be had at a great price.

Hoping something nice comes up in the DFW area soon!

I'm 6'0 and 170, size 54 Dianese leather jackets fit me great. Hope to see you Friday at the Diavel meet.

I'm 5'6" 220lbs!! Just think tresgatos and i own the same bike! Yes i know i look like a hedgehog going down the road. Dont worry about gear four years from now you will be asking....how did i get all this crap?!?!

the cheapest part is buying the bike, trust me.  ;D
oh, have you considered a 796 Motard as well? 

VERY VERY VERY true!!!  [beer]
helmet(s), jacket(s), boots, gloves, pants, backpack, tires, oil, stands, chain wax, aftermarket seat, chains, sprockets, various objects of billet and carbon goodness...

Mmmmmmm....  billet aluminum.

This is an addictive hobby, for sure!  [moto]

Just remembered that I am starting my MSF course on Friday evening at 6pm, so I won't be able to make it out to the Diavel unveiling at AMS to meet you all.  Hope to have a chance to get to meet you all soon!

I'll also keep y'all posted on what bike I end up getting as well as post some questions I may have before then.  Thanks again for all of your help and advice so far!  Looking forward to joining the Duc family soon.  [evil]

- Jasen

Good luck to you during your MSF course. I didn't mention this before regarding your comment of riding faster versus slower, but what MSF teaches is the importance of control for riding slower (like the really tight low-speed circles I continue to practice in my driveway) which comes from developed clutch/throttle control. I get the feeling you'll really enjoy this course.  [thumbsup]

+1 [thumbsup]

Thanks for the well wishes! Completed the MSF course this past weekend and passed the written exam at the DMV this morning.  [moto] Time to do some shopping now!

Anyone have experience with purchasing bikes from AMS?  Are they pretty fair when it comes to pricing and not trying to throw on extra fees and charges?

Thanks,

Jasen

Congrats! [moto]

I've never purchased a bike there (tried but they were consignment and the seller wouldn't budge) but I know Marty pretty well and he always seems fair plus the bike you are looking to get is one of their best sellers so presumably there's more play for your "rock-bottom" price.  What you are willing to pay is a matter of personal preference really so whatever you do just make sure you're happy.   

Congrats to you Jasen. Now the fun part begins.  [moto]
I didn't purchase my Multistrada from AMS, however if it tells you anything about them I get all my mods there AND I'm planning to purchase my next bike from Marty. And I didn't harm any other dealers while typing out this response. Honestly, I'd find it hard trusting any other bike dealer than AMS. Give Marty a visit once you're ready.
I'll be looking for you at an upcoming group ride.  ;D

I've bought two Ducatis from AMS.  They are fair with their pricing and negotiations.  If I'm in the market again for another Duc, they'll be at the top of the list  [thumbsup]

Oh and DO NOT BUY FROM PLANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  that's my -1 Karma for the day.  I'll tell you about them later. 

That's just 'skrat's opinion.  We have bought a number of bikes from them with great experiences.  If you stop by talk to JC.

Where to get your bikes service, that is the never ending question.  I can't comment on that.

Don't buy from Plano!   [thumbsdown]

Congrats!   [thumbsup]

I bought my Hyper from AMS.  Marty was great to work with: very low pressure and very helpful.   [thumbsup]

I didn't have a good experience at Plano, but your results may vary...

 [thumbsdown] Third strike for Plano & they're out  [thumbsup]

To be fair it was about service not sales but I'll not inconvenience them again by trying to spend my money there.  Too bad too, they are close by  [bang]

I've bought two at AMS and have no complaints.
Good group of peeps there IMHO.

look what just popped up http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/2292662460.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/2292662460.html)
discount another $500 IMO for the service that will be due at 7500 miles

AMS is good but waaaay overpriced on parts. My bike was recently backed into by a salesman at work. Parts qoute from eurosport $1800, from AMS $2300. I did it all myself so thank god no labor qoute and i got my upgraded parts for $1100. Sales wise i think ur fine.

Nice!  [thumbsup]

How's that going? Did you get her all back together? Did they fire that salesman yet?

Got all the parts! Was gonna put back together on saturday. No they didnt fire his #####*+^%#}<??^^#}# ass!!

I have nothing but good things to say about Plano. I got a great price on my bike (brand new '09 M1100 purchased 1 year ago) and the service I have received there has been great.

My advice? Figure out what you want and start calling around. Don't get locked into one place based on what others say and don't avoid another place based on what others say.

It's YOUR money, don't spend more than you need to just because.

Anomolies occur

...and we name them 'Skrat.  [laugh]




 :-*

Thank God because the world can't stand too many more of me.

In other moto related news, Cafeeinejunkee got himself a tattoo of his busa engine, he felt compelled to forward this to his texting friends.  Since most of you don't have his number I figured the next best thing was to post his portrait.   [puke]
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a363/superbusa/100_5427.jpg) 

I don't believe for a minute he'd leave stubble on his nipples like that.    [evil]

I hear he shaves his palms too ;D

 ;)

Jasen,

Not that I am being nosey; but..............Where are you in the bike purchase?


Mark

Yes, inquiring minds want to know (and I AM being nosey  ;D )

+3  ;D

+4  [popcorn]

Nice going Dax, it looks like you scared this guy off before he even bought his bike!!!

I know, soooooo sorry.   :(

r ya happy?

 [evil]

I'm glad I bought my bike before meeting Dax, I'd hate to be walking around Dallas...  [moto]  ;D

nah, you'd be broke from spending money on mods.  :P

Haha, hey guys.  Sorry for the slow response, I've been on vacation in Mexico the past week. Haven't scared me off yet.  ;)

I almost pulled the trigger on a 2010 white 696 from Oklahoma, but decided against having to deal with waiting for a lien release on the title. Wasn't too bad a price ($7,100), but having to wire money into an account (his financial institution was a bank  out of Chicago with no locations here) not knowing if I would really receive the title scared me off.

I'm gonna be going over to AMS tomorrow morning to see what pricing Marty can offer on one of his 2010 696's.

In any case, wish I could see you guys up at MotoLiberty tomorrow, but I have a bday to attend.

Will keep y'all informed on the bike purchase!

Have a great weekend,

Jasen

It's Sunday!!  [thumbsup]

Sorry I couldn't make it out today. How was the crawfish boil over at Moto Liberty? Audrey made some great corned beef and cabbage for their St. Patty's Day party last month!

Just an update for everyone, I am planning on going to check out a red 2010 696 tomorrow night over in Murphy. The current owner bought it in December, but has decided to sell it.  It's only got 170 miles on it (Are there any issues that the bike hasn't been ridden much for 4 months?), the current owner has all the original sales receipts from AMS, 2 black keys, code card, claims it's in perfect condition, and he holds the title as opposed to having a lien against it like the other bike (Am I missing anything?  :-[ ). He is willing to let it go for $7,500. Is that a decent price or should I insist on a lower price since the 600 mile service (I've heard this service costs a few hundred dollars at AMS?) is going to be coming up very soon?

If any DFWM'ers live nearby and are free to come check out the bike with me (I admittedly know NOTHING about accessing a motorcycle other than the reading I've done online over the past few days), I'd love to have your help!  Hopefully the bike is as advertised!

Have a good one everybody,

Jasen

That sounds fair. Most dealers r asking for about 8k on used 696's. Offer him 7200 and see where it goes. Tell him u r just working the price of the first service in. If u ride like some of us that service will be in about a week.

I live just a few miles South of Murphy but not sure I'd be of any real assistance to you as you're looking the bike over. I've probably seen him riding across Plano Pkwy/FM544 a few times (even 2-up if this is the same individual).
Good luck to you Jasen.

yep, I'm always up for an adventure. 

Thanks for the support, fellas. I think having one or two knowledgeable buddies there to evaluate the bike (even though it only has 170 miles) would be a wise idea. I'll be getting off work in Irving around 5:45 or so tomorrow night, so I should be in the Murphy/Richardson by around 6:30pm. Where would you guys like to meet up before then? The owner lives off Renner and Murphy Rd.

Thanks in advance!

- Jasen

I just looked at http://showroom.auction123.com/eurosport_cycle/index.html (http://showroom.auction123.com/eurosport_cycle/index.html) inventory and they show a new 2010 696 for $7999.   A no issue bike with all the sales/financing incentives may be a good bet too. 

Thanks for looking that up for me!  I think I'm gonna offer a few hundred lower than his asking price, because a brand new bike versus a bike that has been owned by another rider for 4 months does make a small, but still material difference (shorter remaining warranty, chance of abuse/accident, inconvenience of having to go register and apply for the bike yourself, etc.).

Oh btw, Muskrat, if you're still interested in coming to see the bike with me tonight, feel free to shoot me a text on my cell phone at 469-544-8706 and we can meet up somewhere before heading to his house.  If you can't make it, no worries.  :)

Have a good one everybody!

Jasen

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=6q62gr98qk6os884vtkqagi826&topic=20597.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=6q62gr98qk6os884vtkqagi826&topic=20597.0)

get to work

Hope to have the 696 in my hands by tomorrow night!  [moto]

Whoo hoo!!! [thumbsup]

color combo?






Mark

GET ON with your bad-self! Hahaha.  [thumbsup]

Sweet!  Don't let Muskrat talk you into any mods until you ride it!  [evil]

no chance, I already started.  ;D

and congrats Jason.  We have added another Okie to the forum.  The list is growing. [beer]

What, no pics yet?  ???





 ;D






Congrats!  [moto]

Pics or it didn't happen.  Thems the rules  [evil]

Thems are the rules!!

I do believe those are the rules.


Just rumors at this point.


Mark

+1 ;D

I should have snapped them for him but I didn't think about it because I was the sacrificial lamb who test rode the bike.........wait for it........in shorts, flip flops and no helmet.  Yeah I know let'er rip guys but I wasn't prepared I thought I was just going to eye-ball the bike.  But DAM it was nice and come the 110 degree heat I may have to pull a repeat.  ;D

theres no "real" pics of aliens or god but nobody questions it!!

Squid.

Now THAT would have been a picture for sure...

I have a picture of an alien, or one that resembles such.  It's you on  your 695'er.

I contend that pictures of aliens and god do, in fact, exist.

Exhibit A:
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z234/n2f/phyllis_diller.jpg)


Exhibit B:
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z234/n2f/Bayliss21-1-1.jpg)

 [thumbsup]

Lisa that is one bad hair day you had there. The second pic i agree with but i believe the true god rides for the ducati moto gp team and isnt american. Btw why do people always forget about foggy. More championships and wins than bayliss. He should be considered a god to but i think because of his attitude people dont think of him. I like his attitude. Man says whats on his mind!

Spent a few hours last night just cleaning and looking at her in the garage...

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5061/5619472498_dfde76c9bc.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5266/5619471424_cb6782670a.jpg)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5223/5619471372_c528d7a4cf.jpg)

Thanks to each one of you for offering your insight and experience in helping me get started.  From finding the right MSF course to suggesting gear, aftermarket shops, and dealers, to having Dax actually come check out the bike with me, I can tell we've got some really good, caring people on this board.  Looking forward to meeting all of you at the next get together!

- Jasen

Again, congrat's--great looking bike!



Oh, a hairdryer and dental floss will take care of that reflector problem you've got going on the front forks.   ;)

Nice!!!   [beer] [beer]

...and those frame stickers will peel right off after a ride on a hot day.   [thumbsup]

Thanks! Haha yeah, Dax informed me about these ailments all Monsters are stricken with at birth.  ;)

Nice looking high powered vespa u got there. Now the two best purchases are ASV levers and a light weight flywheel. Just keep captain stall awway from it!

Btw a swift kick in the giggle berries will cure that dax problem you got!

Red is the correct color for a first Duc  [thumbsup] Congrats on the find.

Great looking ride  [thumbsup]  You are going to love it.

One other thing too that you may want to try with the reflectors; squirt some Goo-Gone on the top edge of the adhesive and let it soak in for about 10 minutes or so.  The reflectors will come off easily using dental floss.

+1  [thumbsup]

I just realized I still have the reflectors on my forks!!!  What a dork...  :'(

Sweet!  ;D  [thumbsup]

Welcome to your official slide towards bankruptcy.  It's a fun ride. 

Fixed it for you!

yep

Very nice.  Congrats!!  [beer]

Reel purty [thumbsup]

Gracias, amigos!  I've been doing some initial research on exhaust systems.  Narrowed it down to either the Termignoni kit or the Mivv Suono slip-ons.  I know the Termi's come with a race ECU and air filter, so it's a more complete upgrade, but do the ECU and air filter actually make a noticeable difference in performance?  I am a fan of the Mivv Suono look and sound (at least from what they sound like on Youtube videos  ;D). 

I also read that if you go with any other exhaust setup other than the Termi's, the manufacturer/dealer may void your warranty on engine repairs.  Any truth to that?

Thanks for your help!

- Jasen

That's one Sexy Mutha...SHUT YO MOUTH!!!  [beer]

cough cough SC Project cough cough...

(http://www.sc-project.com/prodotti/ducati/monster_796/MONSTER_796_PRAMAC_SC_PROJECT_GP_EVO_CARBONIO.jpg)

 [popcorn]

The SC's get my vote and are nice, the Mivv's are loud so make sure you hear them first.  I personally don't like the shape of the Termi's on the new Monsters and basically twice the cost of the other options.  As for the warranty, never heard that and don't know anyone on these boards that have had that happen to them.  Sounds like someone's trying to sell their Termi's to me.  ;)  I don't have the race ECU or open air box and have slip-ons without any problem whatsoever.  You really wont notice the difference in power gain either.  I have yet to hear of any problems with people just putting on slip-ons on this DFWM chapter.  Hell, some have even made their own pipes.


Ducati 696 Stock vs SC-Project GP-EVO Slip Ons Comparison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWZ0XoglZQ&feature=player_embedded#normal)

What's an ECU?  ???






 [cheeky]

My SC Project slip ons:

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_29331024x680.jpg)


(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/mhanis-colt/DSC_29371024x680.jpg)



They get a BIG  [thumbsup] from me.


Mark

I love the Termis on my 696.  The bike runs much better after the Termis, race ECU, and air filter install.  It also sounds sooo much better!!! 

Those SC-Projects are real slick!  I haven't had a chance to hear them yet cuz I'm at work, but they look great.  Where's the best place to buy them?  I saw the the GP-EVO's for $772 including shipping on Motovation.

Oh also, is there a need to remap the ECU and install a high flow filter when installing slip ons or can the bike ride fine with an unaltered stock ECU and filter?

no need to map anything with SC's on it.  Motivation seems to have the best price and they are in Austin so delivery in just days, not weeks/months.  [thumbsup]

I think Ducati stock ECUs are not programmable.

I've heard both the Termis and the SC and both are huge improvements over stock.  I think it will just come down to individual preference.  Maybe you can get together with the forum folks who own both systems and hear them yourself.

Glasspacks!! Simply heat them up with a torch. Spray water on the inside. Design a mounting tab. Weld tab on. Mount and let that girl rock!!

Ah... the decisions...  ???  I've read on some threads that the Termi kit has made a huge difference in improving the rideability of the bike at low speeds (from Termi owners) while a lot of others (non-Termi owners) say installing the race ECU really doesn't do anything for you.  Doesn't the race ECU remap the torque band to help with the chatter of the bike at low RPM's?

the chatter is a Ducati thing.........14 tooth and done. 

As far as I know Motivation is the only place to get them currently. You can hear mine at first convenience though mine is an 1100.


Mark

I have the Termies on mine, as AeroGeek said they smooth out the low rev range, mine was very jumpy around 4500 revs before them.  The ECU will also increase the rev limiter. I have not ridden one with just slip-on's so I can not comment on if they make the same improvements.

I had the 14 tooth front sprocket installed after about 600 miles, this helped with initial pickup. I have just replaced the chain so I have gone back to 15 in the front and up to 48 at the rear.

Holy crap! That's got to be as big around as a pizza!   ;D

Any decisions on an exhaust yet?

Other mods? Have you spent money yet?

What the hell? I figured 'Skrat would have this thing all tricked out for you by now!

 :)

Mark

he doesn't cave as easily as you do.  :P

Not much really for the bike yet.  Just ordered an AFAM 14t sprocket and red wheel stripes. Waiting on getting more comfortable riding the Duc until deciding whether to get a new exhaust or not.

Picked up most of my gear: black rubatone Icon Alliance helmet, white Dainese Delmar jacket, black and white Held Titan gloves, T-Pro Forcefield back protector.  Thinking about getting some SIDI Vertigo boots.

Jasen, sounds like you've got some stylin' gear. I know it was most fun shopping for it all.
Regarding the Sidi Vertigo boots, it's the one I wear and they're surprisingly comfortable. I have a few other riding boots but I wear this one exclusively now.
Also, something I didn't see mentioned in your shopping list are protectors for your lower extremities. It might be worth considering also until you're more comfortable operating your bike. The leg protector I wear is this - http://www.extremesupply.com/product/Brand-Forcefield/FORCEFIELDPROPANTS.html (http://www.extremesupply.com/product/Brand-Forcefield/FORCEFIELDPROPANTS.html)
I also have a mesh-type with knee pad inserts and a little bit of padding in the seat area. I either wear them over jeans (taking them off upon arrival at destination) or I wear them standalone. Either way, imagine standing tall then suddenly dropping forward directly onto your knees...then imagine adding varying elements to the equation while riding.
I look forward to meeting you. Safe riding Buddy.  [thumbsup]

Thanks, Cleaven!  Great minds think alike.  ;) Those Forcefield Pro Pants were the exact pants I was looking at! How do you like them? Are they cumbersome/difficult to take off when switching into, say work clothes?

- Jasen

Yeah, they're very nice. I own 2 pairs of them. What I love about them is that they have padding in all the areas I'd be most concerned with injuring during rolls, tumbles, whathaveyou. I wear them beneath both jeans and slacks and they fit well "for me" because I allow a bit extra room during fitting. Otherwise, my pants might fit a bit tighter with them underneath.
Also, Texas Summer is near and you will be a bit warmer while riding throughout the hotter days. My bike has luggage so I keep extra bottles of water and electrolyte packets with me especially during this time of year. It's the equivalent of wearing bulkier thermal pants beneath your pants during hotter days of riding. On a day like today, in the mid-80's, it wasn't bad at all. But, I'd much rather wear them and not need them than to need them and not have anything at all.
One thing I can say is that I do like the padding they chose for these pants. Try the same knee drop I described earlier with these on and you'll know what I mean. I have the complete 100 joule-rated armor in both sets. I get more protection out of them than I did my old Point-Fighting/Kickboxing gear (Macho). I give this product a serious thumbs-up.  :)

Cleaven, I tried these on at Moto Liberty earlier this week and they are awesome!  They run a bit long, so I think I'm gonna go with a size small so the kneepads sit correctly.  Thanks for the tip about bringing extra bottled water around too!  I'll make sure to do so this summer.

As for the bike, just been doing real small mods (14t sprocket and red wheel stripes) for now.  She's a joy to gaze at every night in the garage.  [thumbsup]

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I hope you're getting good usage out of them. I have 2 pairs of them and like the fact I can wear my favorite jeans over them. I look forward to catching up with you soon. Until then, take care.