Hey guys,
I've currently got an 09 696. It has roughly 9k km on it now. The major tune-up has to be done around 12k and the only place that can work on it where I'm from is the dealership, which means roughly 1000$ :(.
Now I was at the dealership earlier this week, they have an 07 S4R with the termis already on it. My saleman told me he could let it go for around 9500$.
What I'm wondering is what should I expect for mine? I think I'll be asking around 8k somewhat negotiable, that seems to be around the price point they're going for around here (NB, Canada).
So basically, I'll be paying 2k to go from an 09 696 to an 07 S4R. I'm not sure what to do. Is it worth it? Is the S4R as awesome as it looks, worth the upgrade?
What are you going to do when the S4R needs service?
It will be almost double the cost of the 2V.
That said...the S4R will blow the 696 out of the water in all other respects.
Honestly when the S4 needs service I'll most likely trade it in before it hits 24k km and get a streetfighter next year... I probably won't get to do 12k km this summer.
But yeah, the S4R will be much faster but is it as comfortable? How's two-up riding? Are there any problems I should be worried about?
You should be fine.
The S4R has better suspension than the 696, so if the 696 works for you the S4R will work better.
None that I know of...take a test ride and decide for yourself.
I'll definitely take it for a test drive once the roads clear up.
I'm just debating paying 2k to go two years older, but in the end it's a much better bike and the initial cost between an S4R and a 696 was more than 2k back when they were both new, so that eases my woes somewhat. I almost debated switching out of Ducati for a while... but I love the brand and they're products too much. You've got to pay if you want to play right? [bang]
Quote from: Kool_Aider on March 23, 2011, 08:48:47 AM
Honestly when the S4 needs service I'll most likely trade it in before it hits 24k km and get a streetfighter next year... I probably won't get to do 12k km this summer.
But yeah, the S4R will be much faster but is it as comfortable? How's two-up riding? Are there any problems I should be worried about?
You'll more than likely take another 2k hit when you trade the S4 in for the Streetfighter. Why don't you just shop around for a used SF now?
I'd say the S4 is more comfortable than the 696. The 696 is a sportier riding position than the S4. That said I enjoy riding Both [thumbsup]
Well even if I find a used SF now it'll definitely be more than 2k to move up to it. I sat on the S4 and it seemed to be a more forward leaning position. Maybe I just haven't sat on my 696 in so long that I don't realize it. I'm going to the stealership tomorrow to take another look at it. I'll make sure to sit on a 696, SF and the S4 and see the difference.
I'm also a bit afraid that the SF will be too much bike for me. All in all I've probably put a good 10k+ km on bikes this summer and I ride with the best of 'em from around here, it's just with great power comes great responsibility.
if you really like hte position of a streetfight or like hte idea just save up for that one and forgo the whole 2 step process you are going to lose more money on each upgrade up there is.
ys the streetfighter will be more upfrot right now, but it saves you the hassle of another sale of a bike and such etc.
the streetfighter will be a lot more power compared to the s4, just on the stat sheets its going to be a bit more.
here is the thing, i went from 60hp to the next bike 144hp,and its been fine, the catch is this i was on the 60hp bike for 3.5 years before upgrading. also the extra hp at first for the first couple of months it totally blows you away how much faster a fast bike is compared to a lower hp bike. no lie, the acceleration from going from a bike with 1/2 the hp of a modern bike is a game changer and it takes some getting used to. If you can take the time to get used to the power to some extent overall you may be fine but everyone is different, but then again the extra hp is very tempting to use whenever you have open road, that is not to be underestimated the pull to open it up full bore. note this can be very bad for your license.
What's the mileage on the S4R?
The S4R has roughly 13k km, just had it's tune-up done. Also has termis on it.
http://www.atlanticmotoplex.ca/motorcycle/used/DUCATI/2007-DUCATI-S4R-960542344046381200c1f7dce3ca7b7f.htm (http://www.atlanticmotoplex.ca/motorcycle/used/DUCATI/2007-DUCATI-S4R-960542344046381200c1f7dce3ca7b7f.htm)
Quote from: Kool_Aider on March 23, 2011, 08:48:47 AM
I've currently got an 09 696. It has roughly 9k km on it now. The major tune-up has to be done around 12k and the only place that can work on it where I'm from is the dealership, which means roughly 1000$ Sad.
Quote from: ducpainter
What are you going to do when the S4R needs service?
It will be almost double the cost of the 2V.
Quote from: Kool_AiderHonestly when the S4 needs service I'll most likely trade it in before it hits 24k km and get a streetfighter next year... I probably won't get to do 12k km this summer.
I'm sorry, but YOU are EXACTLY the type of person who SHOULD NOT OWN a Ducati.
You can't afford the cost to pay a shop to maintain a Ducati?
Don't buy one.
You can't take the time to pull out some tools, read the information on the internet, and do the work yourself to save that money?
Don't buy one.
To buy a bike, ride it until the service light turns on, and then trade it in for another bike for exactly the same length of time isn't going to help either you, or the people who buy your bikes after you get rid of them.
What if you trade your bike to a bad dealer, and they just simply reset the SERV light, and the next owner has the belt snap while riding, and it destroys the engine? Better yet, what if your S4R or Streetfighter had the same thing done to it that you are planning on doing, and it blows up on you?
If you think a Ducati is expensive to maintain, just wait until you get an engine repair bill.
You would be much happier on a Yamaha, with 24k mile service intervals, and no cam belts that need to be replaced.
BC.
hooray for the ducati owner police. [roll]
Quote from: Bladecutter on March 23, 2011, 09:55:29 AM
I'm sorry, but YOU are EXACTLY the type of person who SHOULD NOT OWN a Ducati.
You can't afford the cost to pay a shop to maintain a Ducati?
Don't buy one.
You can't take the time to pull out some tools, read the information on the internet, and do the work yourself to save that money?
Don't buy one.
To buy a bike, ride it until the service light turns on, and then trade it in for another bike for exactly the same length of time isn't going to help either you, or the people who buy your bikes after you get rid of them.
What if you trade your bike to a bad dealer, and they just simply reset the SERV light, and the next owner has the belt snap while riding, and it destroys the engine? Better yet, what if your S4R or Streetfighter had the same thing done to it that you are planning on doing, and it blows up on you?
If you think a Ducati is expensive to maintain, just wait until you get an engine repair bill.
You would be much happier on a Yamaha, with 24k mile service intervals, and no cam belts that need to be replaced.
BC.
Well that's a bit harsh considering what you know about me, I admit I wasn't very clear on the situation.
I'm trading in my 696 not because of the tune-up cost (but conveniently enough I haven't hit the 12k km mark yet) but because I want to upgrade to a bigger bike. So by upgrading now instead of waiting a few months, once I'm passed the 12k km mark, it's a two-birds/one-stone kind of deal.
The reason I would potentially trade the S4R for a Streetfighter the year after is because I'll be graduating from university and I'll be able to afford the SF, not to mention I'd possibly get another 696/796 for the wife.
The reasoning behind not going straight to the streetfighter is that I prefer the look and feel of the monsters. That might change down the road.
But thanks for telling me I shouldn't own my bike. Next you'll assume I ride with shorts and a t-shirt?
too much money IMO. That bike should be priced lower. You can get an S model for the same price.
Quote from: muskrat on March 23, 2011, 10:10:21 AM
too much money IMO. That bike should be priced lower. You can get an S model for the same price.
Does it make a big difference that it's got Termis? I found one in Quebec for 9200$ with 9500km instead of 13k km but it didn't have termis, So I would have to buy those than still shell out for the major tune-up a few weeks later so I'd be actually paying more in the long run.
That's how I see it, I love the sound of that S4R with the termis on the side. I'll try to talk them down to a more reasonable price.
I'm going tomorrow so I'll let you guys know what goes down in the end. I might put a deposit on it if they offer me something reasonable, they gave me quite a bit of bs when I bought the 696 last year, so I don't really want to buy from them again but if the price is right...
Quote from: muskrat on March 23, 2011, 10:10:21 AM
too much money IMO. That bike should be priced lower. You can get an S model for the same price.
In the U.S. Yeah. But he's in canadialand.
Quote from: Statler on March 23, 2011, 10:02:36 AM
hooray for the ducati owner police. [roll]
ha ha ha ha, and on the 8th day, god created moderators!
Quote from: DucatiTorrey on March 23, 2011, 01:18:05 PM
ha ha ha ha, and on the 8th day, god created moderators!
... while muttering to himself, "I step out of the office for one measly day..."
They're always be trolls in message boards. Take them with a grain of salt, they're not the ones riding my bike.
Quote from: Kool_Aider on March 23, 2011, 02:04:53 PM
They're always be trolls in message boards. Take them with a grain of salt, they're not the ones riding my bike.
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I hear this one works wonders as well!! haha
Sorry guys, but just not quite effective enough.
Why not keep your current 696, buy the S4R, do your valve adjustments after buying the tools you need and reading this wonderful thing called the internet, and when the 2 important things happen (you graduate school, and your gf starts riding), she uses your already paid for, and fully adjusted 696 to learn on.
I can't help the way you presented yourself.
You presented yourself as being someone who waits until the service light comes on, and then was going to dump your bike onto the used bike market. Then do the same again with your next bike. I put it in quotes for everyone to see, in case they forgot what that looks like, even.
As for my response, sure, I could have been more pleasant about it, but then you probably would never have noticed, nor cleared up your intents. Where's the fun in that?
Some of you should have a couple of these on my behalf - [drink]
BC.
Quote from: minnesotamonster on March 23, 2011, 10:36:07 AM
In the U.S. Yeah. But he's in canadialand.
I did the conversion, still too much IMO.