Ducati Monster Forum

Kitchen Sink => No Moto Content => Topic started by: RAT900 on March 30, 2011, 04:19:30 AM

Title: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 30, 2011, 04:19:30 AM
So having the morning coffee...flipping between CNN and Fox...

I now deduce (based on reporting/coverage) that Japan is no longer a news item....

the reactors are probably fixed and life there has probably returned to a degree of normalcy to the extent that no further coverage is required

radioactivity spread and contamination issues have evaporated


However I now understand the greatest current threat to mankind and the planet

is in Libya and the news coverage about this deadly planetary threat must run continuously 24x7


I hate the "news" media propaganda program...

selectively pimped by cosmetic cupcakes and Ken Doll dummies
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: zooom on March 30, 2011, 04:21:01 AM
when I watch the news, I prefer to watch BBC America....just sayin...
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: wbeck257 on March 30, 2011, 04:54:40 AM
Unscientific based on their website:

BBC: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
FOX: Lead = Libya, Japan = 3rd
CNN: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
NPR: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
ABC: Lead = Japan, Libya = Not on the front page.

Looks like Japan is still leading the (web) news.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Speedbag on March 30, 2011, 04:58:23 AM
Japan was so three weeks ago.

:P

I, too, hate the media.....
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: metallimonster on March 30, 2011, 05:09:00 AM
I was just thinking about this while I got ready for work.

There was a 25 year old mom missing for a week in Southern Ohio, they found her last night in a church septic tank. First thing out of the anchor's mouth; "A story we brought to you first".  Who gives a make the beast with two backs that you broke the story first there is a mother of 3 kids dead and stuffed in a septic tank.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: ducpainter on March 30, 2011, 05:24:13 AM
Don Henley - Dirty Laundry (Studio Version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bBWBG9r2o&feature=related#normal)
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 30, 2011, 05:25:00 AM
Quote from: metallimonster on March 30, 2011, 05:09:00 AM
I was just thinking about this while I got ready for work.

There was a 25 year old mom missing for a week in Southern Ohio, they found her last night in a church septic tank. First thing out of the anchor's mouth; "A story we brought to you first".  Who gives a make the beast with two backs that you broke the story first there is a mother of 3 kids dead and stuffed in a septic tank.

Oh yes the media's Human "Dung Beetles"  

that make a feast out of life's shit...

"we found this turd of tragedy first!!!  stay tuned we are going to ask her daughter if she's upset that her mother was strangled with her own entrails"

I guess it should be no surprise...they pander to everyone's ghoulish morbidity....like traffic jams caused by accident rubber-neckers looking for the gore on the side of the road....I always lay on the horn and keep it down when someone slows or stops to stare
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 30, 2011, 05:32:10 AM
Quote from: wbeck257 on March 30, 2011, 04:54:40 AM
Unscientific based on their website:

BBC: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
FOX: Lead = Libya, Japan = 3rd
CNN: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
NPR: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
ABC: Lead = Japan, Libya = Not on the front page.

Looks like Japan is still leading the (web) news.

I would not argue website reporting

that but the TV screen is all Khaddafy all the time
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: herm on March 30, 2011, 05:34:41 AM
vote with your remote.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 30, 2011, 05:48:33 AM
Quote from: herm on March 30, 2011, 05:34:41 AM
vote with your remote.

or shotgun....

unfortunately I just got sucked into wanting to know what was going on in Japan

and how far-reaching the contamination is projected to spread...

so I stayed in front of the TV for too long...fully believing they would switch over to the news in the PacRim

before realizing as Speedbag put it that "Japan was so 3 weeks ago"
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: The Architect on March 30, 2011, 05:53:59 AM
Quote from: RAT900 on March 30, 2011, 04:19:30 AM

I hate the "news" media propaganda program...

selectively pimped by cosmetic cupcakes and Ken Doll dummies

Very accurate description.

We as mankind have evolved a good deal.  But a good car wreck, murdered mom, scenes of looting, etc. will bring us right back to the days of throwing Christians to the lions.  And the "news media", they know what sells.

Quote from: herm on March 30, 2011, 05:34:41 AM
vote with your remote.

People are and that's why we have the news we have now.

And as far as the actual news, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. 


I'm sticking with Mr. Judge on this one.

"Idiocracy" introduction - the future of human evolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSROlfR7WTo#normal)

Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Monster Dave on March 30, 2011, 06:59:45 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/30/president-of-japan-utility-that-owns-leaking-nuke-plant-hospital/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk1|52929 (http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/30/president-of-japan-utility-that-owns-leaking-nuke-plant-hospital/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk1%7C52929)
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: fastwin on March 30, 2011, 07:11:25 AM
That Idiocracy video cracks me up! [laugh] Funny, my wife and I have had a similar discussion many times. :P

The news is what it is. I have to watch (and read on line) several news programs to feel like I have gotten most (never all) of the story. It's a business and they are selling ads just like magazines and newspapers. That won't ever change.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Statler on March 30, 2011, 07:16:26 AM
It's scary listening to stuff on local tv news that is truly just made up about the juvenile cases I do.    I know fact checking is difficult with a confidential system, but every time it appears they truly just invent shit to say.  No info?  just wing it.

Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: LMT on March 30, 2011, 07:24:09 AM
 [popcorn]

I don't have a TV. I listen to the radio for most of my news.  NPR and the BBC only. I do read CNN and the 2 local newspapers online. I see tv sometimes and wonder who people can stand it.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: IZ on March 30, 2011, 07:33:40 AM
The news slogan on one of the channels here in Phoenix..
"Telling it like it is"

Right. [roll]

Quote from: metallimonster on March 30, 2011, 05:09:00 AM
I was just thinking about this while I got ready for work.

There was a 25 year old mom missing for a week in Southern Ohio, they found her last night in a church septic tank. First thing out of the anchor's mouth; "A story we brought to you first".  Who gives a make the beast with two backs that you broke the story first there is a mother of 3 kids dead and stuffed in a septic tank.
[thumbsdown] [thumbsdown] [thumbsdown]


Quote from: zooom on March 30, 2011, 04:21:01 AM
I prefer to watch BBC America....just sayin...
+1
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: duccarlos on March 30, 2011, 07:39:32 AM
You guys are just haters. I get all my news from Glenn Beck. Whatever he thinks is important is important to me.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: zooom on March 30, 2011, 07:44:42 AM
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on March 30, 2011, 07:24:09 AM
[popcorn]

I don't have a TV.   I see tv sometimes and wonder who people can stand it.

how else are ya gonna see TopGear or watch WSBK or MotoGP races or  watch Star Wars for the eleventybillionth time?!?!?!...LOL
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: duccarlos on March 30, 2011, 07:49:22 AM
Quote from: zooom on March 30, 2011, 07:44:42 AM
how else are ya gonna see TopGear or watch WSBK or MotoGP races or  watch Star Wars for the eleventybillionth time?!?!?!...LOL

The wonders of the interwebz...
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: cokey on March 30, 2011, 07:51:17 AM
 8)I watch the news once-twice a month..
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: The Architect on March 30, 2011, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Statler on March 30, 2011, 07:16:26 AM
It's scary listening to stuff on local tv news that is truly just made up about the juvenile cases I do.    I know fact checking is difficult with a confidential system, but every time it appears they truly just invent shit to say.  No info?  just wing it.



Again, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story..................
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: zooom on March 30, 2011, 08:01:57 AM
Quote from: duccarlos on March 30, 2011, 07:49:22 AM
The wonders of the interwebz...

shush you!...LOL   ;)
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Speedbag on March 30, 2011, 08:16:54 AM
Tool - Vicarious (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hii17sjSwfA#normal)
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: jc.cyberdemon on March 30, 2011, 08:18:56 AM
^^^+1
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: herm on March 30, 2011, 08:54:59 AM
Quote from: The Architect on March 30, 2011, 05:53:59 AM

People are and that's why we have the news we have now. /snip



true, but you can always cast the ultimate vote, and turn it off, or cancel your service

Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on March 30, 2011, 07:24:09 AM
[popcorn]

I don't have a TV. I listen to the radio for most of my news.  NPR and the BBC only. I do read CNN and the 2 local newspapers online. I see tv sometimes and wonder who people can stand it.

same here. haven't had TV service since 2003. dont miss it a bit.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: jc.cyberdemon on March 30, 2011, 09:03:12 AM
also no tv here, if i feel the urge to watch something i steal it from the internet...arrrrrr
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Grampa on March 30, 2011, 09:59:03 AM
Show Anne Curry on the doll where the ruthless dictator touched you.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: redxblack on March 30, 2011, 10:12:18 AM
A lot of the news is just disaster porn. It does not help advance understanding or inform. It tends to be exploitative.

I like the brit paper The Guardian and NPR, as imperfect as they are.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 30, 2011, 11:29:21 AM
^^^ Disaster Porn....I like that ...accurate....this is at best "infotainment" it is not informative...

information makes most folks eyes glaze over after 30 milliseconds and they are on their way to the Kardashians' latest crisis or some other schadenfreude blasted at them from the screen

now this is not to say that lies slander libel and propaganda have not gone on for centuries in the print or written media...19th Century Yellow Journalism and all that....Remember the Maine etc etc

I just lament that the communications tools we have created are making us dumber rather than smarter

guess it is like fire...

you can cook and warm yourself with it and build a civilization upon its potentials....

and you can also use it to burn down a civilization
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: JEFF_H on March 30, 2011, 11:39:50 AM
I get all my news coverage from the Daily Show.
at least they know what they are.


(goddam i love Tool)
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: redxblack on March 30, 2011, 11:55:24 AM
I heard someone else say "disaster porn," but I think it fits well.

As far as yellow journalism - good call! I'm a big fan of http://policegazette.us/ (http://policegazette.us/) That journal was one of the best of the era, lovingly digitized and occasionally current events get the Police Gazette mock up.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Monster Dave on March 30, 2011, 01:21:51 PM
Whenever I find myself in need of a more extreme delivery of the news, I tune in to 'The Savage Nation'.

That guys over-the-top!
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: lethe on March 30, 2011, 03:17:54 PM
I check the news real quick before I leave the house in the morning, mainly to make sure it's worth going out to start up the car. If the actual end of the world is going on or something, make the beast with two backs it, I'm going back to bed.
Same thing at work, need to check the news every so often from the Blackberry just to ensure I'm not wasting my time worrying that I need to complete whatever I'm working on.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: erkishhorde on March 30, 2011, 03:41:15 PM
I saw this on Evil Milk before I heard anything about Libya on the news and that was last Friday.
(http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Libya_Through_Rage_Faces1.jpg)
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: AJ on March 30, 2011, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: wbeck257 on March 30, 2011, 04:54:40 AM
Unscientific based on their website:

BBC: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
FOX: Lead = Libya, Japan = 3rd
CNN: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
NPR: Lead = Japan, Libya = 2nd
ABC: Lead = Japan, Libya = Not on the front page.

Looks like Japan is still leading the (web) news.

To continue the unscientific study:

NY Times:  Libya = 2nd, Japan = 4th.
Wall Street Journal: Libya = 1st, Japan = 2nd.
Washington Post: Libya = 1st, Japan...a piece on emotions of survivors is 3rd and actual news is a sub link.
LA Times: Libya = 1, Japan has two articles down in the World section of the front page.
SF Chronicle: lots of drivel, then Japan tainted seafood fears & Libya tucked down in the World section.
Financial Times: Libya = 2nd, Japan = not on front page.
The Times (UK): Libya = 1, Japan = not on front page (although Prince Harry's arctic water training had two prime spots & picture)


Quote from: lethe on March 30, 2011, 03:17:54 PM
I check the news real quick before I leave the house in the morning, mainly to make sure it's worth going out to start up the car. If the actual end of the world is going on or something, make the beast with two backs it, I'm going back to bed.
Same thing at work, need to check the news every so often from the Blackberry just to ensure I'm not wasting my time worrying that I need to complete whatever I'm working on.
[laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Monsterlover on March 30, 2011, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: JEFF_H on March 30, 2011, 11:39:50 AM
I get all my news coverage from the Daily Show.
at least they know what they are.


(goddam i love Tool)


I have to agree on both counts [thumbsup]
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: MendoDave on March 30, 2011, 04:49:30 PM
Quote from: AJ on March 30, 2011, 04:12:43 PM
To continue the unscientific study:

NY Times:  Libya = 2nd, Japan = 4th.
Wall Street Journal: Libya = 1st, Japan = 2nd.
Washington Post: Libya = 1st, Japan...a piece on emotions of survivors is 3rd and actual news is a sub link.
LA Times: Libya = 1, Japan has two articles down in the World section of the front page.
SF Chronicle: lots of drivel, then Japan tainted seafood fears & Libya tucked down in the World section.
Financial Times: Libya = 2nd, Japan = not on front page.
The Times (UK): Libya = 1, Japan = not on front page (although Prince Harry's arctic water training had two prime spots & picture)

[laugh] [laugh]

CBS evening news: Has been replaced with something called March madness?!?

I hate that even more!
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 31, 2011, 12:22:09 PM
Basketball is one of my core hatreds...from my earliest days with my father on the court drilling me (reference the movie The Great Santini w/Robert Duvall ) to gym class, to even a make the beast with two backsing glimpse of it on TV

I would sooner immerse myself in a year-long Dr. Phil meets the Kardashians marathon than watch "B-Ball"

The Great Santini (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06KmezV_1ns#normal)
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Kopfjäger on March 31, 2011, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: RAT900 on March 31, 2011, 12:22:09 PM
Basketball is one of my core hatreds...from my earliest days with my father on the court drilling me (reference the movie The Great Santini w/Robert Duvall ) to gym class, to even a make the beast with two backsing glimpse of it on TV

I would sooner immerse myself in a year-long Dr. Phil meets the Kardashians marathon than watch "B-Ball"

The Great Santini (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06KmezV_1ns#normal)

I love me some "Round Ball" and that Movie was awesome.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Speedbag on March 31, 2011, 12:31:19 PM
Quote from: RAT900 on March 31, 2011, 12:22:09 PM
Pro sports Basketball is one of my core hatreds...

Fixed
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 31, 2011, 12:33:24 PM
It is an outstanding movie...cut me to the core

Pat Conroy...who also wrote Prince of Tides etc....

Santini was autobiographical as it was his childhood as well
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 31, 2011, 12:34:51 PM
Quote from: Speedbag on March 31, 2011, 12:31:19 PM
Fixed

yup...until they come out with full-contact team golf I cannot watch any of it
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: DesmoLu on March 31, 2011, 12:51:33 PM
I love the fact that so many people here don't have tv. I've never owned one and I often wonder how people can stand it? 90% of what is one is an insult to humanity, and the remaining 10% is still plagued with commercials that make me want to dig my eyeballs out with a rusty spoon.

As far as news go, I've gotten into the habit of picking up the 'leftover' news at the gym - everyone's discarded magazines. My Economist subscription lapsed a couple months ago and since I've been really busy, I let it go. I know I'm in the general minority when I say I prefer to read things then have someone tell them to me - I find people's voices generally annoying for the most part.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Kopfjäger on March 31, 2011, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: DesmoLu on March 31, 2011, 12:51:33 PM
I love the fact that so many people here don't have tv. I've never owned one and I often wonder how people can stand it? 90% of what is one is an insult to humanity, and the remaining 10% is still plagued with commercials that make me want to dig my eyeballs out with a rusty spoon.


If you have "never" owned one, how do you know what's on?

Oh and what does all your furniture point at?  :D
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Le Pirate on March 31, 2011, 01:22:47 PM
I listen to NPR in the mornings.


Everyone at work says that makes me a "liberal"


But I like it, because I've yet to hear a story about Charlie Sheen or Lindsey Lohan on the NPR morning news.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Grappa on March 31, 2011, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: DesmoLu on March 31, 2011, 12:51:33 PM
I love the fact that so many people here don't have tv. I've never owned one and I often wonder how people can stand it? 90% of what is one is an insult to humanity, and the remaining 10% is still plagued with commercials that make me want to dig my eyeballs out with a rusty spoon.

As far as news go, I've gotten into the habit of picking up the 'leftover' news at the gym - everyone's discarded magazines. My Economist subscription lapsed a couple months ago and since I've been really busy, I let it go. I know I'm in the general minority when I say I prefer to read things then have someone tell them to me - I find people's voices generally annoying for the most part.


I believe you when you say you don't have a T.V. because you believe that commercials only comprise 10% of what's on.  Try 40-50%.   ;)

The Economist is a good source for news.  My subscription lapsed as well, so now I just check out their website.

We have very basic T.V. service only because we had to pay for it to get a decent internet connection.  Think we have about 12 channels, 6 of which are in Spanish.  So six channels of soap operas and raunchy game shows.  The other six are crap as well.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: zooom on March 31, 2011, 01:50:08 PM
I have a TV and am proud to admit it....doesn't mean I have to use it for what most of the rest of America does...

there are thousands of different networks with programming of various natures...my faces include ( but are not limited to) History Channel, Discovery Channel, Food Network, Cooking Channel, Versus, Speed, HBO, Showtime,......
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: RAT900 on March 31, 2011, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: zooom on March 31, 2011, 01:50:08 PM
I have a TV and am proud to admit it....doesn't mean I have to use it for what most of the rest of America does...

there are thousands of different networks with programming of various natures...my faces include ( but are not limited to) History Channel, Discovery Channel, Food Network, Cooking Channel, Versus, Speed, HBO, Showtime,......

I've gotten into the habit of watching Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations on the Travel Channel...he makes me laugh
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: duccarlos on March 31, 2011, 02:16:08 PM
No Reservations is a great show.

I love to watch tv, some shows are mindless entertainment. News channels are mindless and not entertaining, hence why I don't watch them.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: cokey on March 31, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
I work for cable so unless you guys want my fam to starve,  get a damn tv...

•_•

I watch a lot of tv bit mostly movies n diy network, cartoons and certain tv shows.. hate realitv n news.  I just record everything so I can fast forward through commercials.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Le Pirate on April 01, 2011, 05:01:04 AM
Quote from: cokey on March 31, 2011, 02:23:48 PM

I watch a lot of tv bit mostly movies n diy network, cartoons and certain tv shows.. hate realitv n news.  I just record everything so I can fast forward through commercials.

DVR has made TV watchable again