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Moto Board => Accessories & Mods => Topic started by: scduc on April 05, 2011, 05:23:23 PM



Title: Clutch Options
Post by: scduc on April 05, 2011, 05:23:23 PM
So, while the bike is in pieces, I am contemplateing what to do about the clutch. I really do not ride hard enough to warrant a slipper, although it would be sweet. And with the case machined, I need some bling. An STM basket is going to run me $280. Pressure plate another $150, springs caps and bearing $60. My stock plates have 10k so in theory, they are ok for another 5k. I could bling out the hub for another $200. For a total of $690. With the plates in need of replacement before the end of summer. another $250. Grand total of $950+. Does it make more sense to just bite the bullet and get a full setup for $1150 from Motowheels. I think I'm pretty set on the STM basket. Maybe Motowheels can swap the STM basket for the Surflex one. What would you do?


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: He Man on April 05, 2011, 10:00:55 PM
Baskets are wear and tear items, so replace it when it is on its way out along with ur clutch pack  so you can get a nice even wear.

No one sees the clutch drum so who cares.

Pressure plate + clutch cover + SS spring and caps = where its at!


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: errazor on April 06, 2011, 07:32:23 AM
I would consider the full monty from desmotimes.com, @ 963$


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: junior varsity on April 06, 2011, 10:43:45 AM
I would consider the full monty from desmotimes.com, @ 963$

make the beast with two backs that!   for less than that you can get a full slipper clutch - basket AND plates included!

if you are replacing the clutch basket, my preference has been with the 'ringed' style aluminum baskets - like the old VeeTwo (no longer available), the Nichols, NGR, etc - a ring that keeps the baskets 'fingers' from spreading at higher rpm.

And I try to remember always, friction plates and the clutch basket 'go together' - in that they wear on each other. So I do aluminum with aluminum - on a non-slipper it would be like a nichols basket and a barnett clutch pack. 

I read that the barnett dry clutch plate packs are not good for slippers, so if you want to avoid in the future - you'll want something else.

if you had some extra jingle-jangle, look into the EVR / STM (and i think others) that have 48T baskets and corresponding 48T clutch packs.


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: He Man on April 06, 2011, 07:30:38 PM
48T are suppopse to be much quieter no?

I have the vee-two clutch with the finger band that you bolt up to it. i also have the barnett one with steel sheet wraped around the fingers.

Stock OEM plates are aluminum and barnett ones are also aluminum. so if you use a steel basket your clutch pack will wear very quickly. if you use aluminum on aluminum, depending on how you ride, where you ride, you can use as little as 2 clutch packs per basket or sometiems people use 1 pack for over 30,000 miles, just depends on your riding style.

Do know that a slipper will wear much much faster.

 i do not liek barnett clutch packs. Ive had a bad experience wih them up here in the northeast.  i gave them to El Matador and he runs it down in Texas where its dry and has no problems with it.


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: junior varsity on April 06, 2011, 08:02:55 PM
48T are suppopse to be much quieter no?

not only that, but less wear on the pack/basket where they contact - lets the friction material wear be the only factor worth noting.

I have the vee-two clutch with the finger band that you bolt up to it. i also have the barnett one with steel sheet wraped around the fingers.
the vee-two one i have is like yours - the only different between it and the nichols is that the nichols only uses 4 tiny screws to secure that ring to the top, whereas my VeeTwo has a crap ton. I believe 12.

i do not like barnett clutch packs. Ive had a bad experience wih them up here in the northeast.  i gave them to El Matador and he runs it down in Texas where its dry and has no problems with it.
Hmm. They work great for me down here too. Wonder what gives where you are - i've heard other complaints too, but have never experienced a problem myself.


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: desmoworks on April 06, 2011, 08:06:09 PM
Hmm. They work great for me down here too. Wonder what gives where you are - i've heard other complaints too, but have never experienced a problem myself.

We've seen several completely smoked packs with low miles on them in the shop lately. Don't think it was the riders either!


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: junior varsity on April 06, 2011, 08:08:42 PM
man.  must be really luck-o'-the-draw --> mine's got 3 years worth of trouble free riding on it.


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: desmoworks on April 06, 2011, 08:15:29 PM
man.  must be really luck-o'-the-draw --> mine's got 3 years worth of trouble free riding on it.

These were all new packs... like less than 2 months of riding on them!


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: korey on April 06, 2011, 08:49:28 PM
I love my Barnett clutch. No issues and a huge improvement over stock  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: The Don on April 06, 2011, 09:20:40 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ducati-Monster-1000DS-S2R-ST3-Clutch-Basket-/120708389543?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c1ac7daa7 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ducati-Monster-1000DS-S2R-ST3-Clutch-Basket-/120708389543?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c1ac7daa7)
Brook Henry (of Vee Two fame) is back in business


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: Slide Panda on April 07, 2011, 04:41:07 AM
As featured in my little tut...
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=27004.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=27004.0)

Though with the exchange rate as it is - buying from Oz isn't the deal it was not so long ago.


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: junior varsity on April 07, 2011, 07:19:47 AM
indeed.   like you, when "gettin was good" - i bought the tool, hub and basket at the same time. then went overboard and bought other doodads, like cams, etc. ho hum.


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: koko64 on April 08, 2011, 12:54:23 AM


I do have a Vee Two basket and drum (from when our dollar was the pacific peso), but I run Barnett plates.

Nowdays I buy American parts! :D


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: monsta on April 08, 2011, 08:44:26 PM
I'd like to get a barnett clutch basket, the gold anodized ally ones with the stainless inserts..
anyone tried these? what are they like?


Title: Re: Clutch Options
Post by: Speeddog on April 08, 2011, 08:56:53 PM
I've been running one for about 15k miles, works fine.

I'd like to get a barnett clutch basket, the gold anodized ally ones with the stainless inserts..
anyone tried these? what are they like?


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