How many times when selling a moto (or anything else, for that matter) using a classified ad have you had someone call you up and say (after reducing the price to get the deal moving, no less) "let me (place whatever action here) and I will call you back to pick up the bike tonight" then never hear from them?
If your significant other said no, then call me back and say you're no longer interested, K?
And if he calls back today, the deal I had negotiated yesterday is no longer on the table.
I like the fact that you don't pay to advertise things you want to get rid of on Craig's list, but I hate the douchiness that can ensue. How 'boot responding to an email about your item, then you get spam about joining some stupid other thing that promises you VAST riches with little work?
Just need to get the KZ out of the garage, and I am not asking that much for it and a BOATLOAD of parts. Why can't people be not so douchey?
bunnyman out.
another scenario:
I had a camera lens listed on CL for $200 (a fair market price based on my research - eBay, CL, used camera stuff site, etc.).
I get an offer for something like $120 + a $25 Best Buy gift card. ???
Ouch.
I got the following offer for my KZ:
A waterslide for a pool and a JBL theatre sub box. Hmmmmm, me thinks the sub box AND waterslide are HOT.
Yes, people can't read when you say "reasonable offers will be entertained".
I was trying to sell a few bikes and I got an email that just made me angry. Someone just basicly asked up front without even having a discussion, "what is the lowest you'll accept?" I just asked him what's the Highest he's willing to pay? I never heard back.
I just couldn't take all the assholes calling me, emailing me and visiting me which all end up as a waste of time after they say they going to buy the bike. I just put the bikes on consignment and I'm happy to pay someone else to deal with this bullshit.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on April 15, 2011, 05:45:33 AM
another scenario:
I had a camera lens listed on CL for $200 (a fair market price based on my research - eBay, CL, used camera stuff site, etc.).
I get an offer for something like $120 + a $25 Best Buy gift card. ???
well technically you could purchase $80 worth of items that were on sale for 65% off at Best Buy
remember if you are using a "free" website to post like craigslist, it shows that you are being cheap at the same time too, so its the nature of the beast you have to deal with cheap people since you are using a site that is asking equally as much in return.
this is what you have to do so that you don't have to give a commission of 20-30% to someone else to put it on consignment. or do that and avoid the headaches but lose some money in the process.
bunnyman999... ;)
You forget that people are douches all the time, not just when you're trying to sell something. 8)
Remember, bacon makes everything better! [thumbsup]
Good luck with sale...
[bacon]
This is why I tend to trade more often than not (assuming I'm parting with some motorized toy to get another).
I'll take the relative cornholing happily, just to put the selling burden on someone else. I have more important things to do than deal with the idiots.
Quote from: sbrguy on April 15, 2011, 07:00:10 AM
remember if you are using a "free" website to post like craigslist, it shows that you are being cheap at the same time too, so its the nature of the beast you have to deal with cheap people since you are using a site that is asking equally as much in return.
this is what you have to do so that you don't have to give a commission of 20-30% to someone else to put it on consignment. or do that and avoid the headaches but lose some money in the process.
I don't care if I am being lowballed, 'cos after all- I am being cheap, as well.
Polite low-balling is fine with me- just don't be a douche, that's all. Call me back if you decide to back out after making a tentative deal so I can go about other plans.
This is a project bike, after all. Translation: nowhere NEAR ready to ride. I am taking what I can get to get it out of my hair at this point. No shoppe will do a consignment on this thing!!! Like I said, it's the dumb headaches and spam that I don't like.
Quote from: Speedbag on April 15, 2011, 07:09:50 AM
This is why I tend to trade more often than not (assuming I'm parting with some motorized toy to get another).
I'll take the relative cornholing happily, just to put the selling burden on someone else. I have more important things to do than deal with the idiots.
I'm always willing to trade for stuff that isn't HOT. What the one dude was trying to trade me was WAAAAAAAAAAY more valuable than what I have. That's a red flag.
Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on April 15, 2011, 07:05:59 AM
bunnyman999... ;)
You forget that people are douches all the time, not just when you're trying to sell something. 8)
Remember, bacon makes everything better! [thumbsup]
Good luck with sale...
[bacon]
Yes, I should fry myself an ENTIRE slab of it.
Thanks for the well-wishes, mate.
Quote from: Narflar on April 15, 2011, 06:07:02 AM
I was trying to sell a few bikes and I got an email that just made me angry. Someone just basicly asked up front without even having a discussion, "what is the lowest you'll accept?" I just asked him what's the Highest he's willing to pay? I never heard back.
I just couldn't take all the assholes calling me, emailing me and visiting me which all end up as a waste of time after they say they going to buy the bike. I just put the bikes on consignment and I'm happy to pay someone else to deal with this bullshit.
I got an email from some dude that wanted more pics. ?????
What else could I possibly post?!?
If this weren't a "project bike" (a.k.a. One man's Trash...), it would be on consignment
yesterday.
Last night a kid came in that made me laugh- he honestly thinks that he will get it running quickly. The bike has electrical ghosts (theme here?) that would cook the main fuse seconds after the bike would get fully started. I stripped out the ENTIRE wiring harness. I actually was trying as hard as I could to talk the kid OUT of the sale, as I could just tell he was in over his head on this.
I put in the ad that the bike was nowhere near ready-to-ride!!!!
People are MAROONS some times...
Quote from: Raux on April 15, 2011, 06:13:21 AM
well technically you could purchase $80 worth of items that were on sale for 65% off at Best Buy
ding! ding! ding!!!
My favorite is when people call about something that you are selling, and they offer you a lower price without ever having seen the item. HOW DO THEY THINK IT'S WORTH LESS? Like how do they know it's not worth more than what I am asking for? Might it not be priced to sell quick (which is how I usually do it because I hate the bargaining thing) and therefore they should just jump at it if they are seriously interested?
Why would you get ginned up about a phone call?
Unless they are standing in my driveway holding out a handful of cash, I don't take it seriously.
Phone calls, emails are cheap. Words are cheap.
They're not being douches, your expectations are too high.
I put my truck up for sale and had literally 20 people email me saying they wanted it and had to "work out" how to get it back to their home. (Ford Ranger diesel with a bad injector pump -- not running)... I just realized people say whatever in email or on the phone. One guy finally said "Hold it for me, I will send you a paypal for a deposit" -what? 15 minutes later, he had send me 100$ by paypal and said he was coming the following weekend to pick it up. And there he was.
Cash talks, bullshit walks.
Quote from: Grappa on April 15, 2011, 08:17:15 AM
My favorite is when people call about something that you are selling, and they offer you a lower price without ever having seen the item. HOW DO THEY THINK IT'S WORTH LESS? Like how do they know it's not worth more than what I am asking for? Might it not be priced to sell quick (which is how I usually do it because I hate the bargaining thing) and therefore they should just jump at it if they are seriously interested?
To play devil's advocate, we are conditioned to thinking when we're buying something that there is wiggle room in the pricing. Most people think the worst answer they'll get is no.
I guess that if you say "Firm" on the pricing, then they know you'll not move.
Quote from: ducatiz on April 15, 2011, 08:19:07 AM
Why would you get ginned up about a phone call?
Unless they are standing in my driveway holding out a handful of cash, I don't take it seriously.
Phone calls, emails are cheap. Words are cheap.
They're not being douches, your expectations are too high.
I put my truck up for sale and had literally 20 people email me saying they wanted it and had to "work out" how to get it back to their home. (Ford Ranger diesel with a bad injector pump -- not running)... I just realized people say whatever in email or on the phone. One guy finally said "Hold it for me, I will send you a paypal for a deposit" -what? 15 minutes later, he had send me 100$ by paypal and said he was coming the following weekend to pick it up. And there he was.
Cash talks, bullshit walks.
True true. You're right.
I am only ginned up a bit because I have to plan on not taking any more appointments when a fellow says he's "coming by tonight to pick it up", thusly costing me money. I should just say that there's one day to make a deal and pick it up this week, eh?
Quote from: bunnyman666 on April 15, 2011, 08:25:09 AM
True true. You're right.
I am only ginned up a bit because I have to plan on not taking any more appointments when a fellow says he's "coming by tonight to pick it up", thusly costing me money. I should just say that there's one day to make a deal and pick it up this week, eh?
I hear you. When people tell me that, I ask what time because I have another propect coming (coincidentally) before whatever time they say. So I ask them to call me right before coming.
Then I get ginned up.
Some years back, I had some things on Freecycle - as in, it's yours if you come take it away. I kid you not, people called up and asked me to drop the stuff at their house. Seriously, WTF?
Quote from: ducatiz on April 15, 2011, 08:19:07 AM
. One guy finally said "Hold it for me, I will send you a paypal for a deposit" -what? 15 minutes later, he had send me 100$ by paypal and said he was coming the following weekend to pick it up. And there he was.
Cash talks, bullshit walks.
I had a woman do that for me on a french door I was selling. She paypal'd me $20 and never showed. She never called or emailed but the money cleared. ??? I assumed she died.
Quote from: dolci on April 15, 2011, 10:13:40 AM
Some years back, I had some things on Freecycle - as in, it's yours if you come take it away. I kid you not, people called up and asked me to drop the stuff at their house. Seriously, WTF?
I give away crap on CL all the time. I had a pallet of brick pavers that I was giving away and the guy wanted me to load them in his truck. He assured me that he was doing me a favor by picking them up, and that I would have to pay to throw them out. [roll]
Quote from: Vindingo on April 15, 2011, 10:39:10 AM
I give away crap on CL all the time. I had a pallet of brick pavers that I was giving away and the guy wanted me to load them in his truck. He assured me that he was doing me a favor by picking them up, and that I would have to pay to throw them out.
i would have asked him how does he walk with that giant scrotum
I was going to sell my 2006 KX250F on Craig's list and had someone offer me a pinball machine, a broken xbox 360 (that could be fixed really quick), a couch that just needed new upholstery, and 500 dollars cash. All that was supposed to equal 3500 dollars and I would be getting "a hell of a deal".
Quote from: awall41 on April 15, 2011, 10:57:50 AM
I was going to sell my 2006 KX250F on Craig's list and had someone offer me a pinball machine, a broken xbox 360 (that could be fixed really quick), a couch that just needed new upholstery, and 500 dollars cash. All that was supposed to equal 3500 dollars and I would be getting "a hell of a deal".
when i was in 6th grade, i wanted SO BADLY to "hook up" with this cute girl named Erin (which back then meant kiss). I asked my uncle Tim what I should do -- he said "well have you ASKED her?" i thought he was crazy.
the next week in school, i sent her a note.. "want to go and kiss in the gym?"
i got a note back "YES" whoa!
Point of my story is SOMETIMES YOU DON'T GET IT UNLESS YOU ASK FOR IT
That being said, I have a huge pile of rocks and sticks in my yard. Next time I see a bike I want, I am going to offer a trade.
the only thing worse than craigslist is trying to do a yard sale.
next time i move, im taking everything to goodwill instead.
Yard Sale?
I've had two of those, and *both* times my house was burglarized within days.
Never again.
Quote from: Speeddog on April 15, 2011, 12:13:28 PM
Yard Sale?
I've had two of those, and *both* times my house was burglarized within days.
Never again.
we have an nra sticker on the front door and a sign that says "trespassers will be shot, survivors will be hanged"
no break ins
Quote from: JEFF_H on April 15, 2011, 12:00:45 PM
the only thing worse than craigslist is trying to do a yard sale.
next time i move, im taking everything to goodwill instead.
Ugh.
Don't get me started on yard sales. [thumbsdown]
Quote from: ducatiz on April 15, 2011, 12:30:29 PM
we have an nra sticker on the front door and a sign that says "trespassers will be shot, survivors will be hanged"
no break ins
that's why I have very visible cameras outside and a dog that looks like Dr. Frankenstein put her together. ;D
I'm getting rid of my truck for relatively cheap and because my brother is in need of a vehicle I offered it up to him really cheap.
I leave the house for work every day at 4:30am and get home at 7:30pm, the truck has no working brakes, didn't run until last weekend (dead battery) and I have a decent sized dumpster in my driving blocking the truck. He waits the entire weekend to call me back and calls at 9pm on a Sunday night saying he'd be by either Monday or Tuesday to get it. Arggh, out I go in a lightly snow covered driveway, push the dumpster to the side in the grass where the wheels sink in, push the truck down the driveway feet slipping on the snow and then push the dumpster back into the driveway from the side. Took me about an hour. He calls back the next night saying that he found something better and doesn't want my truck. [bang]
Now I have to do the reverse of the procedure so that the dumpster is accessible to be emptied on Friday morning when the garbage truck comes. I hate that dumb little loser. >:(
Someone else is supposedly buying it this Sunday. Let's see how this works out.
Quote from: Raux on April 15, 2011, 06:13:21 AM
well technically you could purchase $80 worth of items that were on sale for 65% off at Best Buy
[clap]
It's not just people trying to buy things on CL. When my friends were starting to get into riding at Cal Poly, they were sifting through CL. One guy didn't want them coming to his house to look at the bike so they arranged to meet him in the Albertson's parking lot with cash in hand to buy the bike right then if they liked it. The arrangement was to meet the next day at 10am. 10am tomorrow rolls by and we're out in the Albertson's parking lot wondering what's taking him so long. 10:30 we're giving him the benefit of the doubt when he doesn't pick up his phone. 11:00 rolls around and we finally get through to him. He sold it the previous night when someone showed up at his house to buy it. WTF? He didn't even try to call and tell us that the meeting was off. Total douche.
People are not nearly as polite as they used to be. Why is it that people don't value others' time?
Yes, when someone is being even slightly considerate, I thank them profusely, 'cos it seems that consideration, genteelness, and manners are becoming rare these days.
About fifteen phone calls from this prospective buyer for the Kwak. Now if he backs out, I am gonna be SUPER PO'd.
I bought my SV off of CL, and had a minimum amount of craziness. Showed up to look at the bike with $300 in hand to hold the bike and a cashiers check a week later. She was asking a little high, I offered a reasonable amount, and we wound up splitting the difference.
Only craziness was that the PO wanted to hold the title until the check cleared, meaning no registration/riding until I got the title. A quick "Hey, this is a check issued by my bank as a payout for a loan and you've got a copy of my license and the VIN for the bike - if the check doesn't clear call it in as stolen" got her to rethink that, and I was riding the next day.
Good story, bevel.
I got rid of the Kwak about an hour ago. I did take $100 off, and I was fine with it. After all- I am that much close to cleaning out the garage!!!!
congrats on the sale.
I like having yard sales. I go in with a neighbor and let them host - no break-ins for me here [laugh] I sell sober until about noon, then start drinking and slashing prices, each getting more severe as they afternoon fads away. I usually come home with very few items left ;D
mitt
Thanks.
Mitt, I tend to have a 50% off @ noon, 75% off @3, then start selling lots @4:30 and end up with nothing left!!!