Ducati Monster Forum

I knew it would come to this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/E-MARKED-EXHAUST-STICKER-APRILIA-DUCATI-KTM-SCOOTER-/200600732636?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2eb4bc43dc (http://cgi.ebay.com/E-MARKED-EXHAUST-STICKER-APRILIA-DUCATI-KTM-SCOOTER-/200600732636?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2eb4bc43dc)

(http://i4.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/1a/19/8ccc_12.JPG)

How long until someone makes EPA/DOT decals?

As I'm sure you know, not that easy:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=21a06f85064082d32e62f7f683355e63&rgn=div8&view=text&node=40:24.0.1.2.11.5.17.8&idno=40 (http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=21a06f85064082d32e62f7f683355e63&rgn=div8&view=text&node=40:24.0.1.2.11.5.17.8&idno=40)

I disagree.

The labelling just needs to be EPA specific and designed in such a way that it "cannot be removed without destroying or defacing them "(the decal).

So a hi-adhesive sticker with the statutory language.  Watch for it..

I agree with that.  Maybe I didn't get your post.  Isn't that an ad for a decal one could buy for their exhaust like the fake DOT label to place over the "For novelty use only" sticker on your beanie?

Exactly

OUTRAGEOUS perversion of the law.  Shame on you for highlighting such potential deviousness.

who better than a lawyer? ;)

well it was a lawyer who found a typo in the Virginia statute supposedly requiring people to stop for a schoolbus.

client got a ticket for passing a schoolbus (stopped).
attorney found the statute said "must stop the schoolbus..." not "must stop for the schoolbus..."
he properly got his client off, but then submitted the statute to the VA state legislature for them to fix it.

we do good things.

That's a good thing?

Really?

Yes.  It is.  He did his job and then went above the call.

that is a terrible attorney.  next time he should go above the call and give evidence that convicts his guilty client, oh yeah you will say "that is not his job to to that is the prosecutors job"..but he had no problem doing the legislature's job by fixing a statute.

so next time maybe all defence attorneys should do the job of the state and convict their guilty clients, yeah right. [cheeky]

you don't understand.

he was ticketed for passing a school bus.

Turned out, there was no law on the books which made that illegal.

Do you really want to live in a world where courts can do whatever they want (as you've suggested) and charge people with made up crimes?  Really?

The system was challenged and corrected.  Unfortunately, this process allowed the motorist who passed the school bus to get off.  The attorney did his job.  The fault lies with legislative staff not catching the mistake before the law  published. 

Dont blindly beat up lawyers any more than you want ignorant folks to beat up on motorcyclists blindly. There are bad apples, but dont throw them all under the same not-to-be-passed bus.

ahem

so, back to the motorcycle stuff...

whoa

http://cgi.ebay.com/D-O-T-SNELL-APPROVED-4-PACK-CLEAR-Helmet-Stickers-026-/220703345466?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3362f1cb3a (http://cgi.ebay.com/D-O-T-SNELL-APPROVED-4-PACK-CLEAR-Helmet-Stickers-026-/220703345466?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3362f1cb3a)

went to a bike show a few years ago and a large fellow was selling half helmets for around 40 bucks. for 42 he'd "add" a DOT sticker.

I wanted to ask how much for a snell sticker but thought better of it.

It blows my mind.

It's one thing for cans... another totally different thing for helmets.  I was unaware anyone was doing that.

Hmmm. Wonder if I could make a buck selling this sticker:

(http://www.find-me-a-gift.co.uk/images/product_images/thumbnails_180/dgp04_giant_condom_300.jpg)

Naturally these items can be misused.

Naturally, misuse is probably the point.

However, being able to replace damaged stickers is a helpful thing, depending on what sort of cop or DOT inspector you run across.

I am of the same mind. I would also add, a lot of laws are unnecessary and only convolute things. Often times, misguided laws end up having a deleterious affect on the citizenry it tends to protect...

**Not that this law is one of them

From "A Man for All Seasons"...

William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!