in the market for a nailer. recommendations?
Production work or occasional weekend stuff? I loves the Sencos.
The senco with the gas cylinder and recharge mechanism is very cool.
mitt
Senco Frame Pro
I like full headed nails.
Do the Sencos still shoot the clipped heads?
should have said up front....not interested in a cordless/pasload type. I have been reading good things about the Bostitch F21PL. it can handle 1.5-3.5" nails, full head. i believe the 1.5" is for structural hangers.
and while i am not a pro, i expect to get a lot of use out of the tool over the next few years as i rebuild my house and barn.
thanks for the input! keep it coming.
Of the guns I have used, I would rank them : Max, Hitachi (mint green not the ugly alien looking ones), Senco, Bostitch.
The Max gun was the lightest which is nice if you are using it all day long. Compared to old Bostitch guns, I feel like the new ones have gone down in quality a bit.
I also like to wear my saftey glasses when using those full head nails. The little plastic things that hold the nails together always seem to shoot out and hit you in the face.
Quote from: Vindingo on May 19, 2011, 05:59:51 AM
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I also like to wear my saftey glasses when using those full head nails. The little plastic things that hold the nails together always seem to shoot out and hit you in the face.
Bostich makes models for paper and wire collated nails too.
Not much is made like it used to be. ;)
well, i am having a hard time tracking down the bostich for a price i am willing to pay....and i just found out that it only uses the proprietary sticks. might need to look more closely at the RIDGID (with the lifetime warranty.)
Quote from: herm on May 19, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
well, i am having a hard time tracking down the bostich for a price i am willing to pay....and i just found out that it only uses the proprietary sticks. might need to look more closely at the RIDGID (with the lifetime warranty.)
but the bostich sticks are available everywhere in my experience.
Rigid is a home cheapo brand these days...no?
Quote from: ducpainter on May 19, 2011, 10:59:21 AM
but the bostich sticks are available everywhere in my experience.
Rigid is a home cheapo brand these days...no?
i think your talking about ryobi. Rigid is top quality (well their pipr threaders and plumping tools are top notch atleast)
Quote from: He Man on May 19, 2011, 11:16:44 AM
i think your talking about ryobi. Rigid is top quality (well their pipr threaders and plumping tools are top notch atleast)
I wasn't commenting on the quality.
Just relative availability.
Quote from: ducpainter on May 19, 2011, 10:59:21 AM
but the bostich sticks are available everywhere in my experience.
Rigid is a home cheapo brand these days...no?
they are available everywhere....right until you need them and they are out. being able to use a wider range of products is worth some consideration IMO.
i think Ridgid is a HD only brand...but i also have heard that its made by Bosch. In fact, I have a Ridgid table saw that is identical to the more expensive Bosch.
Never had a problem w/ supply here, but that may be different where you are.
What other brands fit Rigid?
Rigid is HD, no where near the tools they used to be. Bostitch makes good guns but my experience is that if you need a part you're better off buying a new gun. Their service awful and I don't buy them anymore for just that reason. Senco makes framing nailers for full head as well as clipped, and they make a full head nail for their clipped head nailer as well. Parts are very easy to get and they are for the most part user servicable. I've used Hitachi and they just feel less solid. Keep in mind a lighter gun will be somewhat easier to use, but it won't drive nails as well. Something about the mass/velocity/resistance thing.
Quote from: herm on May 19, 2011, 04:48:41 AM
should have said up front....not interested in a cordless/pasload type. I have been reading good things about the Bostitch F21PL. it can handle 1.5-3.5" nails, full head. i believe the 1.5" is for structural hangers.
and while i am not a pro, i expect to get a lot of use out of the tool over the next few years as i rebuild my house and barn.
thanks for the input! keep it coming.
I think I have a reconditioned f21pl that I've never used. Is that the one with the 2 heads and one is used for metal fasteners? I can take some pics of it if you like. I'd sell it for $100 shipped.
Quote from: ducpainter on May 19, 2011, 06:23:28 AM
Not much is made like it used to be. ;)
There are better tools available now, they just cost WAY more than the disposible crap that most people buy from the Depot. There was no need to keep "making them like they used to" when people started to care more about cost than quality.
Quote from: Vindingo on May 19, 2011, 02:15:31 PM
There are better tools available now, they just cost WAY more than the disposible crap that most people buy from the Depot. There was no need to keep "making them like they used to" when people started to care more about cost than quality.
Yup...
no argument here.
Ive just bought a paslode ill never go back to the pneumatic for framing... flooring and roofing is a different story the cordless units run too slowly. But ive gone through entire boxes of nails without changing gas or battery.
Paslode = The Shit
I have a Paslode pneumatic, not the Impulse / fuel cell deal.
The pneumatic has been used a bunch, the cement coated clipped head nails hold, period. I made a boo boo and had to pull a bunch of em, it sucked! Try pulling one sometime!
Built my 1200 sq ft man cave, an office in the basement, my buddies deck........
My neighbor had a Paslode Impulse nailer. That was slick for trusses etc, no air hose getting in the way! Nothing but good to say about their stuff.
If you buy one, you will not be second guessing.
I just bought an electric staple gun at sears to restaple the seat vinyl to my monster... The staples just bounce off the plastic. I know technically this is a total thread jack... But close enough eh? Would I need to go air compressor or are there any good high powered electrics?
Make sure you can get OEM nails whatever gun you buy. After 30+ years in the rental business I've discovered nails made by one manufacturer for anothers gun rarely work well. I've had to clear many jammed guns because customers tried to use Home Depot nails in them.
Hammer man.. exercise and you get that better feel of accomplishment and relaxation... unless you miss then your out for a few weeks..
Quote from: cokey on May 23, 2011, 08:58:20 AM
Hammer man.. exercise and you get that better feel of accomplishment and relaxation... unless you miss then your out for a few weeks..
Yea.....brings back memories of a 32oz waffle faced framing hammer, a full swing, and my thumb.....
Ive owned an Impulse and been a fan since they first came out. They are handy for a lot of things but nowhere near as fast as pneumatic. Plus the force required to engage the safety can sometimes throw you off a line.
Quote from: rgramjet on May 23, 2011, 12:53:40 PM
Yea.....brings back memories of a 32oz waffle faced framing hammer, a full swing, and my thumb.....
Ive owned an Impulse and been a fan since they first came out. They are handy for a lot of things but nowhere near as fast as pneumatic. Plus the force required to engage the safety can sometimes throw you off a line.
i still have my last california framer, which i took the side of my thumb off with when the waffles were new. and i dont mind swinging a hammer, but when you are working alone, and/or there is no room to swing at the nail....a framing gun is the way to go.
think i am going to buy the RIDGID.
Quote from: herm on May 23, 2011, 01:11:52 PM
...think i am going to buy the RIDGID.
Aaargh. Oh well, we tried.
Edit: Your tool and your call . The thought of buying any HD house brand tools just sends me into a tank slapper
Bob
Quote from: Langanobob on May 23, 2011, 06:44:59 PM
Aaargh. Oh well, we tried.
Edit: Your tool and your call . The thought of buying any HD house brand tools just sends me into a tank slapper
Bob
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