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Title: New tire mount?
Post by: AudiFan on May 19, 2011, 11:16:40 AM
Where in and around Lorton can i get tires monted on my monster "as you wait service"?
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: flare_late on May 19, 2011, 12:59:28 PM
A buddy of mine had walk-in service at Coleman's WB when he got tires mounted.  But that was just on the rims, he didn't bring in the bike.  Maybe call these guys...

Places for motorcycle shop near Lorton, VA
Cycle Pros Inc - 1 review - Place page
www.cyclepros.com (//http://) - 8536 Terminal Rd # G, Lorton - (703) 339-5699

Coleman Powersports -  30 reviews - Place page
www.wherethepoweris.com (//http://) - 14105 Telegraph Road, Woodbridge - (703) 497-1500

Motorcycle Factory - 6 reviews - Place page
www.themfi.com (//http://) - 3820 Prince William Parkway, Woodbridge - (703) 583-9600
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: bikepilot on May 19, 2011, 01:22:06 PM
MFI will almost always do a walk-in if you bring just the wheel.  If you'll be brining the whole bike in call ahead to make sure they have time/space or schedule an appointment.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: AudiFan on May 20, 2011, 05:15:21 AM
Thanks guys. I dropped the tires off at Colemans in Woodbrige.  Sat morn i will ride there and then do a walk in service. 
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on May 20, 2011, 05:45:42 AM
Let us know how how that works for you and how much they charge you.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: AudiFan on May 20, 2011, 08:53:16 AM
If i remember i think its gonna be around 120  ...
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: bikepilot on May 20, 2011, 08:58:13 AM
MFI is $25/wheel I think if you bring in just the wheels.  Probably a little extra if you ride the bike there.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: ducatiz on May 20, 2011, 08:59:58 AM
I had a front tire installed and balanced at Coleman's -- it cost me nearly $60.   

I needed it bad or I would have turned around and walked out.  Absurdly expensive.  They lost all of my business.

$25/wheel at MFI?  I am giving them a call... that's definitely within the realm of sanity.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: AudiFan on May 20, 2011, 09:15:04 AM
yea i know its high but as for convenience they won .. i dont think i will go there for service tho.. i want to have this bike get a once over since i just got it last Friday and it seems that the guy prior did a few things im not to sure about. He removed all indicators and horn not sure why plus i now notice that the odometer is off he says its because of the ecu being flashed ...he told me it has 5100 miles the odometer now says 280?
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: ducatiz on May 20, 2011, 09:16:44 AM
Quote from: AudiFan on May 20, 2011, 09:15:04 AM
yea i know its high but as for convenience they won .. i dont think i will go there for service tho.. i want to have this bike get a once over since i just got it last Friday and it seems that the guy prior did a few things im not to sure about. He removed all indicators and horn not sure why plus i now notice that the odometer is off he says its because of the ecu being flashed ...he told me it has 5100 miles the odometer now says 280?

thats.... fishy...
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: AudiFan on May 20, 2011, 09:21:32 AM
I know.  well its mine now so i need to just get her right and treat her good and hopefully she will in return.  The bike rides good tho so far so good.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: corvtt1969 on May 20, 2011, 12:24:29 PM
i mount and balance my own tires in my garage, takes about 20-30 minutes depending on the condition of the old tire. all it takes is 3 tire irons and an air compressor. I refuse to pay all that money for such a simple job. Also having multiple motorcycles helps in justifying learning how.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: bikepilot on May 20, 2011, 02:34:31 PM
I used to do all mine too, I've gotten lazy lately though (and at the moment I'm without a functioning air compressor 'cause I've gotta wire my new garage for 220v).
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: AudiFan on May 21, 2011, 06:18:56 AM
Seems like it's the same concept of changing a bicycle tire. I live in a condo tho, so no garage no air compressors.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: ducatiz on May 21, 2011, 07:15:19 AM
Use a bike pump.  It will just take longer.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: corvtt1969 on May 23, 2011, 07:21:21 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 21, 2011, 07:15:19 AM
Use a bike pump.  It will just take longer.
i highly doubt youll be able to get the bead to seat with the little pressure created by a bike pump. as for just refilling the tires, def the way to go.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: bikepilot on May 23, 2011, 07:25:04 AM
You might have a hard time getting the bead to seat on a tubless tire with a bike pump.  Probably possible, but it might be easier to use a CO2 cartridge or two to get the first few lbs of air in it.  You could also get an air tank and pressurize it with the bike pump then use it to seat the bead.  The issue isn't achieving enough pressure, but being able to deliver enough volume of air to make the bead seat against the rim enough to seal.  Once the bead is sealing no problem airing it up the rest of the way. You can put a tie-down around the tire's center to squish it and make the tire expand out a bit to help get started.  Truck guys put a bit of accelerant in the tire then light it to make it seat  :o

I've done a bunch of street tires with just standard little motion pro tire levers in my garage and a bit of old garden hose split lenghtwise for rim protection.  Very doable, but a bit annoying.  For the most part now I find it worth the $25 to have the shop mount and spin-balance the tires for me - especially since the wife is working at the shop, I just toss the wheels in her cage and they come back with fresh meats installed  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on May 23, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Quote from: bikepilot on May 23, 2011, 07:25:04 AM
For the most part now I find it worth the $25 to have the shop mount and spin-balance the tires for me - especially since the wife is working at the shop, I just toss the wheels in her cage and they come back with fresh meats installed  [thumbsup]

I admire and whole-heartedly approve your tecnique! [thumbsup] 8)
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: corvtt1969 on May 23, 2011, 07:54:40 AM
Quote from: bikepilot on May 23, 2011, 07:25:04 AM
The issue isn't achieving enough pressure, but being able to deliver enough volume of air to make the bead seat against the rim enough to seal.   [thumbsup]
not to be a stickler, but the second half of your sentence defines pressure. P=Normal Force/Area. P= deliver enough volume(normal force)/the bead seat against the rim(area).
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: ducatiz on May 23, 2011, 08:25:47 AM
Quote from: corvtt1969 on May 23, 2011, 07:54:40 AM
not to be a stickler, but the second half of your sentence defines pressure. P=Normal Force/Area. P= deliver enough volume(normal force)/the bead seat against the rim(area).

i think he was referring to the onset of pressure versus constant pressure.

there has to be enough pressure to push the sides out to get a seal

anyhow, i was just joking with my bike pump comment.  you'd have to be quite daft to try that.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: bikepilot on May 24, 2011, 01:08:08 PM
By pressure I mean that a bike pump will make plenty of pressure (my road bike tires go to 140 psi), but can't deliver enough volume of air to get sufficient pressure when there's a huge leak (like a bead not seated).  So in a round-about way its a pressure issue, but the reason its a pressure issue is that the bike pump can't deliver enough cubic feet of air quickly enough.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: Meerkat on May 24, 2011, 03:19:42 PM
Been a while since I ciphered in phyziks, but I think the parameter needed is called volumetric flux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volumetric_flux. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volumetric_flux.)

Hey, Tocino! When's the next nerd night?  [laugh]
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on May 24, 2011, 03:25:24 PM
Quote from: Ducatician on May 24, 2011, 03:19:42 PM
Hey, Tocino! When's the next nerd night?  [laugh]
As soon as the forks fall off your bike, we still have a running bet...  [evil]


Back on track: I'd like to know how did the tire mounting go and what was the final cost. Because if it's really about $120 I have some beers for bikepilot and a pair of rims too [cheeky]
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: Meerkat on May 24, 2011, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on May 24, 2011, 03:25:24 PM
As soon as the forks fall off your bike, we still have a running bet...  [evil]


Back on track: I'd like to know how did the tire mounting go and what was the final cost. Because if it's really about $120 I have some beers for bikepilot and a pair of rims too [cheeky]

I'll bring the beer if I can watch and learn. I really don't want to pay to have tires put on the Daytona after my $30 for both on the Monster deal from Mike.
Title: Re: New tire mount?
Post by: zooom on May 25, 2011, 04:09:00 AM
Quote from: Ducatician on May 24, 2011, 03:44:29 PM
I'll bring the beer if I can watch and learn. I really don't want to pay to have tires put on the Daytona after my $30 for both on the Monster deal from Mike.

well....that deal is long gone since Mike has moved on to other endeavours...