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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: desmodoktor on May 21, 2011, 12:58:50 PM

Title: Intake Backfire
Post by: desmodoktor on May 21, 2011, 12:58:50 PM
i got this on my 02 m750. checked the valve clearances ,they are good. balanced the throttle bodies.
idk where its coming from?!?  ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaxPerKyaw8
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: junior varsity on May 21, 2011, 01:33:44 PM
my fcr41's do that on the 99 m900 a bit.  lots of gas is what i thought it was from
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: desmodoktor on May 21, 2011, 02:04:02 PM
Quote from: j v on May 21, 2011, 01:33:44 PM
my fcr41's do that on the 99 m900 a bit.  lots of gas is what i thought it was from


so what was it?
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: ducatiz on May 21, 2011, 02:40:16 PM
preignite belch
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: Speeddog on May 21, 2011, 03:04:36 PM
What are the valve clearances?
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: desmodoktor on May 21, 2011, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on May 21, 2011, 03:04:36 PM
What are the valve clearances?



intake opener   0.003
intake closer    0.004

exhaust opener 0.005
exhaust closer  0.005
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: Speeddog on May 21, 2011, 05:18:04 PM
Those closers are loose.

I bet that with the closer clearances at 0.001 it won't be backfiring.
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: booger on May 21, 2011, 06:08:55 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on May 21, 2011, 05:18:04 PM
Those closers are loose.

I bet that with the closer clearances at 0.001 it won't be backfiring.

+1 - I had the same problem; went away with a valve adjustment
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: desmodoktor on May 21, 2011, 06:20:35 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on May 21, 2011, 05:18:04 PM
Those closers are loose.

I bet that with the closer clearances at 0.001 it won't be backfiring.

thank u! i ll get the micrometer today and measure the shims. then i ll order new ones! should i replace the openers as well? what do u think?
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: Speeddog on May 21, 2011, 06:29:31 PM
Nothing wrong with the openers where they are now, but they may tighten up a bit when you get the closers fixed.

That's not much of an issue, it's easy to make shims thinner.
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: desmodoktor on May 21, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
Quote from: bergdoerfer on May 21, 2011, 06:08:55 PM
+1 - I had the same problem; went away with a valve adjustment

i hope it will go away when im done!  [thumbsup]
did u have loss of power while riding as well? for example : doing 80mph on 5th gear and out of nowehere feeling one of the pistons not working.. and the power dropping?
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: desmodoktor on May 29, 2011, 02:49:09 PM
ok , so i replaced the shims.. 0mm clearance on the closers and .10mm on the openers ..
the intake backfire is still there.. i dont know what to do .. please help..
my season is ruined..   [bang]
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: MaaloX on June 28, 2011, 08:19:31 PM
Quote from: svp88 on May 29, 2011, 02:49:09 PM
ok , so i replaced the shims.. 0mm clearance on the closers and .10mm on the openers ..
the intake backfire is still there.. i dont know what to do .. please help..
my season is ruined..   [bang]

Any update on your situation?? I would be interested to hear the solution if any.
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: desmodoktor on July 05, 2011, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: MaaloX on June 28, 2011, 08:19:31 PM
Any update on your situation?? I would be interested to hear the solution if any.


sorry i didn't post anything for so long...
the solution : the intake backfire is caused from the throttle bodies.. as i said previously i adjusted the valves but it was still there...
its all on the throttle position and throttle bodies... all i did is: set up the idling at 1100-1200 rpms and balanced them with my homemade manometer.
since then the intake backfire went away.. it only happens if i downshift from 2nd to 1st and i open up the throttle REALLY fast. (i know i didnt do 100% throttle body adj)
i ve done more than 500 miles since then with no problems. no loss of power Nothing!!  last week i removed the spark plugs right after a 50mile ride to see their color .. i was surprised , they were light gray and DRY! unlike before *black and wet. thats it so far. i will have to do the vertical cylinders valve adjustment  soon because on 5-6k rpms i get this weird vibration  on the bike ...
thats it so far ..  i was scared my summer was ruined but i was mistaken.. thx to everybody here im out there riding...  thank you all  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Intake Backfire
Post by: Lieutenant Dan on February 04, 2012, 11:16:34 PM
Quote from: svp88 on July 05, 2011, 05:18:00 PM

its all on the throttle position and throttle bodies... all i did is: set up the idling at 1100-1200 rpms and balanced them with my homemade manometer.


svp88, I think I have this exact problem. Unfortunately, I don't really understand what you did in your description above. Any chance you might be able to elaborate a little? Sorry, I'm pretty new. Thanks!

Dan