Ducati Monster Forum

This lovely may be coming to a Canada near you and could be appearing in the US too

 - Short version: It's a camera system tied to a mic set up. Make too much noise and click click ticket.

more info:
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/noise-snare-photo-system-loud-pipes-beware/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/noise-snare-photo-system-loud-pipes-beware/)

If they adjust it so that it's only set off by deafening bikes (Harley straight pipers), then I'm all for it. Seriously, the straight pipers here in MKE can ruin your day, make the beast with two backs 'em!

Fixed it for you  ;D

I know my Monster was loud, but I rode as quietly as I could in Suburban areas or in places that might piss people off or if possible I would avoid those areas all together, seems a decent section of the Harley Brigade can not seem to exercise self control when it comes to making excess noise in built up or heavily populated area's.

"Yes that's nice, you own a Harley, but I don't need my Windows rattled and my teeth loosened every time you ride past the house"

The louder the pipes on the Harley, the less you hear the guy in the parking lot talking about his Harley.  One annoying sound just drowns out another annoying sound. 

reality for a second...with Speed Camera's, you see them and slow down appropriately and once you are clear of the photo zone, you accelerate away.... that is what EVERYBODY does with them...with a Noise Snare...you simply roll up with enough power and (a) pull in your clutch lever and roll off the throttle and once you are clear, pop the clutch and roll the throttle on out ( probably making more noise than before ) or you (b) shift up a gear or 2 to lower your RPM's and lugg it through the zone'd area and just keep on rolling...

Funny cause all the Ducati "purists" I know tell me that my boomtubes make the bike sound like a Harley.

The stock pipes actually have engraved letters on each of them that they are compliant with the EPA noise regulations.. But yeah, its not worth spending a day in court to fight it.. Like said above, pull in the clutch and roll until you pass it.

Not all of them this was a big dispute a two years back.

and the Harley bashing continues  [laugh]
There are many sport bikes that are louder if not more obnoxious than many Harley riders. 
In today's world with declining revenue and ridiculously short budgets I doubt many Cities will make the effort to pay for such systems.

That's not true, by any stretch.

When a new "revenue generating" source arrives on the market, economically deprived cities jump at the chance to get more $$$ into the coffers.

It takes citizens a while to figure out where all the traps are located at (worse if they are mobile), and adjust their behavior to prevent the wallet drain, plus get the word out to their friends.

So, in that first year or two, the city/county/state gets an increase in revenue they normally don't get.
A Police officer can't stay at an intersection handing out tickets 24 hours a day, to every single person that blows the light. A machine, however, can.

So a volume related ticket machine gives a whole new type of revenue that a city currently doesn't get, and gets it 24 hours a day. Plus, it can't discriminate between bikes, cars, trucks, or anything else. It hears too much noise, it takes a picture, and someone reviews it.

BC.

over 50% of my work is with Government entities, trust me, they will not add this to the budget anytime soon when they can write hundreds of tickets on improper lane changes, speeding, no blinkers and so many more things.  Bikers are but a minute percentage and most fiscal years start September 1, 2011, thus it's too late since most budgets are already approved. 

+1

It never gets old....  [laugh]

not about bikes, because the fart-can-civic-fast-and-furious-wannabee's are just as guilty as any straight/loud pipe running bike....and as far as revenue generation and these types of devices....take a look at municipalities that balked at the costs of speed and red light cameras and now are installing lots and lots of them as they are automated revenue generators that bring in big bucks with relatively low overhead/operating costs!

As far as loud pipes go, I have run just about every exhaust set up I can on my s2r 800 and now I am using a marving midpipe and stock cans.  I feel as if I am not noticed nearly as much simply because I can not be heard.  Now I know that is no legal defense but it sure makes me feel safer. 



But now for the real reason I wanted to write...heard this the other day.

What is the difference between a Harley and a Hoover vacuum?  In a Hoover the "dirt bag" sits inside! ;D

If the EPA wants to really party and raise money

they might want to tackle the Landscaping crews and their make the beast with two backsing leaf blowers with the worn-out muffler packing

They drone on for hours not just blast past in a few seconds

that is my idea of a national noise pollution problem

the way i see it... loud pipes dont save lives... but then again, it doesnt hurt either.

I agree that it doesn't save lives but it sure gets "some" attention.  Which puts me a tiny bit at ease.  Maybe it is all in my head

Oh, no- not the loud pipe dust-up again.

Video of it in action:

Noise Snare in Action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvH0krMJ3Ek&feature=player_embedded#normal)

Cheers,
Adam  [Dolph]

Well I'm boned if they bring this to PA. My damn pipes are too loud.. 100+ dB. 

Oh, and why is my bike loud?

Because I make the beast with two backsing love the beautiful sound of an L twin.


/discussion

Hell, my stock can idles around 75db on the SV  [clap]

Harley guys tell me that my Monster wants to sound like a Harley, but that nothing sounds like a Harley.  I tell them if I detune my monster, cut 40% of it's power, and hang some leather tassles off the handlebars, they wouldn't know the difference.  Truth be told, I would probably also need leather chaps and a black novelty helmet with stickers.

So how many times have you been punched in the face?  ;D

All true though.

But lets not make this another HD bashing thread, we have enough of those on here.  [roll]

No punches thrown.  We all work together (it might help that i am their boss) and ride together now and again.  Trust me, being the lone Ducati in the endless see of Road Kings,  I catch more shit than I throw. 

We have plenty of harley bashing threads, and we have plenty of loud exhaust disscusions/arguments.  But the thought of one thread doing both, WOW! 

You forgot the bandana.

this thread is so off topic I thought I'd add one more thing
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k235/pyrachick/Funny/Black%20Box%20Pictures/sportbike.jpg?t=1281904683)

Somebody's gettin' lucky!

Officer: Yeah, I'm gonna need you to blow into this little machine here.

Guy: Ok...

Breathalyzer goes off.

Guy: How could you tell I was drunk? I was driving great!

Officer: Have you seen what was on the back of your bike?

Oh the humanity!

[smiley face looking down with grimace and shaking head needed here]

In that situation, I would have probably put the helmet on my head. 

False.  If the EPA really wants to make money, they should crack down on the millions of clean air and water violations that go on unchecked every single year in the U.S.  Or get serious about mountaintop removal mining and bust heads at the Army Corps of Engineers.  Or just get better PR people on board to help with their image.  Noise?  Noise isn't a problem, it doesn't stick around after you stop producing it.