I want a Laborator puppy. My wife says no way because they are stinky and make your hands stinky after petting. She says the oil in their fur cause this. I've been around labs before and I don't remember them being particularly smelly. Does anyone here own a Lab? Is there any truth to this or are Labs similar to other dogs.
I own a Lab mix and the only time she smells is when she farts, rolls in something dead, or gets soaking wet (without getting shampoo'd). I have many friends with labs and, again, never had any sort of issue with them smelling.
Have you tried asking a veterinarian?
Had a labrador retriever for 13 years.
JBubble is exactly right.
On your average day a lab will not smell and in reality the fur is not oily on the surface but underneath in the undercoat where they are"waterproof"
The only time my dog smelled was when:
-Farted (they will literally melt your soul with noxious gas)
-Rolled in dead animals/shit (they love this)
-Gets soaked (not just a little wet)
-Puked & Re-ate puke (bad breath)
The biggest issue with a lab is shedding. A lab CONSTANTLY sheds and you will have a LOT of hairs in your home. You could brush a lab for 24 hours straight and still get hair coming off.
If you have a lot of carpeting, get a good vacuum cleaner because it's going to get a workout.
We had a Lab (we miss you Rusty!) and he smelled no better or worse than any other dog I ever had. But heed the warnings about shedding from the other posters...Rusty's been gone going on four years now and his hair is STILL showing up on the furniture and our clothes [laugh]
They are such great dogs though.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on May 26, 2011, 08:59:03 PM
The biggest issue with a lab is shedding. A lab CONSTANTLY sheds and you will have a LOT of hairs in your home. You could brush a lab for 24 hours straight and still get hair coming off.
If you have a lot of carpeting, get a good vacuum cleaner because it's going to get a workout.
I wasn't aware of the truth to that fact until now
my gawd
endless hair
It's paws will smell like corn chips. ;D
sac
Quote from: SacDuc on May 27, 2011, 12:41:47 AM
It's paws will smell like corn chips. ;D
sac
yes the dreaded Frito Foot
was that on TOB?
Quote from: RAT900 on May 27, 2011, 12:51:11 AM
yes the dreaded Frito Foot
was that on TOB?
It all blurs together. I think so.
sac
+1 to all the above, especially the great dog part. As to the shedding, when I found a dog hair behind the crystal of my watch I came the the realization that there was some unearthly power at work
OK thanks guys. That is very reassuring. My previous dog was a German Shorthaired pointer. She would shed very little, but her hair wasn't very noticeable. I guess we will have to invest in a great vacuum.
Quote from: SacDuc on May 27, 2011, 12:41:47 AM
It's paws will smell like corn chips. ;D
sac
I love miss that smell.
black labs do get 'black dog' smell when they are wet. Black dogs have a very distinct odour when wet, which some people absolutely hate and some don't mind at all.
and of course, they shed like nobody's business.
my ex-wife has had a dog grooming business for over 20 years, so I don't mind the black dog smell, but if I were going to get a lab I would probably get a chocolate or yellow.
All dogs can have frito foot. That's not a lab thing at all.
My family had a chocolate and black lab - not more stinky than any other dog. Well both loved to get into smelly stuff... but beyond that bad habit...
No smell other than shit eating breath. His breath normally doesn't smell. It's when he supplements his diet with dog, horse, chicken or any other animal shit then it goes nasty.
Quote from: Dan on May 27, 2011, 02:43:19 AM
+1 to all the above, especially the great dog part. As to the shedding, when I found a dog hair behind the crystal of my watch I came the the realization that there was some unearthly power at work
I have a hair behind/in my laptop screen. [bang]
It does get everywhere. I must have eaten 1lb. of it by now.
labs are bred to be in the water and their skin can have more protective oils.
inside dogs kept clean wont have a smell, but outside/working dogs will.
boxers have no 'doggy' smell to their skin/fur and are the only breed worth having
;D
+1 to the hair based on 12 years of living with one. If you get a yellow, plan on throwing your black fleece clothes away. If you get a black, do the same for white fleece clothes.
No special stink that I know of. All large dogs have a little funk - you can typically tell as soon as you walk into someones home with one.
mitt
Yeah labs shed to all hell all the time and just have the "wet dog" smell when they are wet.
Jeff beat me to it. the only dog I know of is the Boxer that doesn't ever have a smell wet or otherwise
and yes it's the only breed worth owning.
if you do get a lab. Get one of these.
http://www.furminator.com/ (http://www.furminator.com/)
And a shop vac.
Quote from: SacDuc on May 27, 2011, 12:41:47 AM
It's paws will smell like corn chips. ;D
sac
Crunchy PB ftw!
Get one of these [thumbsup]
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Australian Cattle dog aka : Blue healer /Red healer
self cleaning coat , I can take my dog mountain bike riding and he will be covered in
mud and as soon as he is dry all the dirt just falls off.
He does not smell at all unless he has rolled in something dead [laugh]
The only time I have ever washed him.
He has been de-sexed so that may add to it.
Absolutely loyal , protective and just wants to be wherever I am 24/7
he loves hanging out with the bikes too.
I don't like Labs much they are too food obsessed and can easily get fat
and act like dumb blonds unless trained really well, and yes they stink when wet.
If you want a waterdog, be a man and get a Newfie.
Doberman.
/thread
;D
Best thing about Dobes is that they'll throw up that crazy orange sweet potato shit that IZ tries to feed them.
Quote from: Two dogs on May 29, 2011, 03:21:01 PM
Get one of these [thumbsup]
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Australian Cattle dog aka : Blue healer /Red healer
self cleaning coat , I can take my dog mountain bike riding and he will be covered in
mud and as soon as he is dry all the dirt just falls off.
He does not smell at all unless he has rolled in something dead [laugh]
The only time I have ever washed him.
He has been de-sexed so that may add to it.
Absolutely loyal , protective and just wants to be wherever I am 24/7
he loves hanging out with the bikes too.
I don't like Labs much they are too food obsessed and can easily get fat
and act like dumb blonds unless trained really well, and yes they stink when wet.
I will second the love for cow dogs.
I've rescued pitbulls for several years, but about 10 years ago I took in two cow dog pups. It took me a year to find a home for the one and almost two years for the other and by the time I adopted them out I did not want to let them go. Truly fantastic dogs, but then most dogs bred for performance over conformation are
To the two people who think that Boxers are the best dog, the two of you must be on crack.
My gf is on the same Boxer crack as the two of you smoke by the pound, too.
Mollie is my gf's fourth Boxer, first female.
She loves her Boxers is an understatement.
I, however, am a Lab kinda guy.
I like a dog that knows its a dog, but tries to be a part of the family.
Boxers think that they are humans, and have some weird deformity.
They don't fetch. They don't play. They are always up in your face.
They just bounce around like idiots until you either take them for a walk, or feed them.
Then they pass out for an hour or two, and start the bouncing all over again.
Plus, they can peel the paint off of not only the walls in the room they vented in, but the next room over when the stink gets in there, and strip the paint off of your motorcycles in your garage when you open the door 3 hours later.
And if you don't think a Boxer has a smell, you obviously have never taken a whiff of one either while its sleeping, or shortly after it wakes up. It is a strong odor, I have never smelled before.
When my friends come over to visit, I have to spend half the time pulling Mollie off of my friends, because she just won't leave them alone. This includes other dog people.
And really, what good is a dog that you can't play fetch with?
Have a Boxer next to you, and throw a ball, or anything for that matter, and they stand there, look at you, and look at you like they are trying to tell you "That was a pretty good throw. Can I have a hug now?"
Have a Lab, a Border Collie, a Shepard, or just about any other dog, throw that ball, the dog will rocket off, grab the ball, head back your way, either hand you the ball back, or play a rousing game of "Keep-away" with you for a couple minutes, and then look at you like they are saying "That was a pretty good throw. Now how about you stop throwing limp-wristed, and put some sauce behind that toss?"
Plus, Boxers have one of the shortest lifespans for a dog, and just about always die from some form of Cancer tumor.
Mollie has a fused spine, and who knows what that's going to lead to in her future. She's 4 at this point, I do believe.
She is a great dog, but I'd rather have a Lab or a Shepard way before ever getting another Boxer.
BC.
yeah Boxers are energetic and need training.
all of mine were trained off leash and responded to whistles and hand commands.
Friends would come over and I would snap my fingers and the dog would sit and wait to be greeted.
All of them fetched and all had a prefered toy that they liked to fetch best.
All of them loved to swim.
None of them ever smelled nor farted.
Now I always fed high quality food and never allowed rawhide because it would make them fart.
Nor grocery store treats, just makes them fart.
Average life span is 8-10 years and it's not the shortest.
The larger breeds like the Danes are shorter.
None of mine have had any issues with cancer either.
Quote from: VisceralReaction on May 31, 2011, 10:51:05 AM
yeah Boxers are energetic and need training.
all of mine were trained off leash and responded to whistles and hand commands.
Friends would come over and I would snap my fingers and the dog would sit and wait to be greeted.
All of them fetched and all had a prefered toy that they liked to fetch best.
All of them loved to swim.
None of them ever smelled nor farted.
Now I always fed high quality food and never allowed rawhide because it would make them fart.
Nor grocery store treats, just makes them fart.
Average life span is 8-10 years and it's not the shortest.
The larger breeds like the Danes are shorter.
None of mine have had any issues with cancer either.
8-10 years is short for a medium size dog
I love all bully breeds, including boxers, but most lines have been utterly ruined by retarded breeders. There are a few trying to bring the breed back to some sort of functional use and reasonable health, to whom I sincerely wish the best of luck , but it's an uphill project to be sure........ especially given the monsterous popularity of the breed at present.
^ I agree, alot of breeds have been ruined due to breeders trying to make money rather
than further the breed standard. When you can trace the Boxer breed back to 5 ancestors
and alot of inbreeding to start the breed it makes it easier to ruin.
Sorry for the thread jack
Quote from: VisceralReaction on May 31, 2011, 10:51:05 AM
Average life span is 8-10 years and it's not the shortest.
The larger breeds like the Danes are shorter.
That's only true because most people shorten the lives of their large dogs out of ignorance.
Quote from: SacDuc on April 06, 2010, 07:19:35 AM
The short life span of the Danes is a common misconception. The animals usually have shorter lives because they are fed wrong. You really have to watch how fast they grow when they are puppies (and Danes are puppies for 3-4 years). They can develop severe joint problems if they grow too fast. A food with less protein takes care of this. Making sure they don't get too much exercise helps this as well. They seem a bit more prone to developing cancer earlier than other breeds. A natural food with a good mix of veggies in it seems to take care of this. But the most startling thing I learned is that 75% of early Great Dane deaths are caused by bloat. This is 100% preventable in a young to middle aged healthy animal. Some basic feeding guidelines are:
Raised the food so that the dog only has to bend his neck slightly to feed
Feed 4-5 times a day as much as the dog wants (this keeps them from over eating because they know they will get more soon)
No play/exercise one hour before and one hour after eating.
No eating two hours before and two hours after a car ride.
No excitement while eating (keep the toddlers away, don't throw the ball for other dogs, etc.)
A lot of people don't do this stuff. They are basically killing their dogs early. So you hear things like, "But, but, but . . . I work and can't keep a feeding schedule like that!" Then get a different breed. Or don't whine that your dog died at the age of eight.
The rescue we got two of our dogs from has adopted out over 11,000 large breed dogs. Their Danes are living between 12-16 years on average as opposed to the 7-10 you often seen quoted. My wife's Belgian Shepherd/Dane mix lived until 16. Despite their large size Danes (and many other large breeds) are quite fragile. But if they are properly cared for they should live a long happy life.
sac
Interesting...
Thank Sac!! [thumbsup]
My lab doesn't stink, he just waits his turn to jump in the dishwasher.
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Quote from: SacDuc on June 01, 2011, 12:57:52 PM
That's only true because most people shorten the lives of their large dogs out of ignorance.
while the bloat issue and death by a flipped stomach is a very common cause of shortened life span of danes, I've never heard of dane living to 16 years. I'm not saying it's impossible, I've just never seen or heard of it. I've known a number of danes who never died from a flipped stomach or bloat, but all of them had hip and/or joint issues that had them put down long before 16. I did have a dane/rottie cross who made it to 13 which I thought was really good. Arthritis got him.
and as for a low proteine diet........ that's a great recipe for joint and arthritis issues. Grain free with more protein is the way to go for most dogs, especially large breed dogs. Certainly control portions to regulate growth as a pup, but low protein is a bad deal, unless they have a pre-existing kidney issue.
Protein shouldn't be higher than 24-26% for large dogs.
My previous dog, lived til he was 16 (Great Dane, Belgian Shepard)
The women that runs Gentle Giants adopts dogs out at 8 - 16 plus years as well as younger.
I now have 3 large dogs and I fully expect that they will live a long life with us! I can't imagine it being less than 16 yrs.
I agree with SacDuc that care and food makes a big difference!
My dogs do get stinky and I wash them. (they like to run around and play in the dirt)
They get a bath about every 2 to 3 weeks, I brush their teeth and clean their ears.
They actually hop in the tub and I give them a bubble bath...it a sight to see [cheeky] They are great at this!
Works well for me!
Quote from: Polpetta on June 06, 2011, 04:28:46 PM
Protein shouldn't be higher than 24-26% for large dogs.
I wouldn't call that a low protein diet. Most dog foods, even the premium ones, are in the 22%-24% range. I've only seen a few higher (like EVO)...and honestly, they were too rich for my dogs. The dogs loved them, but they didn't love the dogs back! :-X
Agreed that proper care is vital to longevity. [thumbsup] My Dane will be 9 in August, and she still acts young...although she's started developing fatty bumps in the last 2 years, one of which was large enough to have removed 19 months ago but is coming back. :-\
Oh...and all dogs stink. It's just a matter of degrees of stench. [laugh]
Quote from: Triple J on June 06, 2011, 05:11:46 PM
Oh...and all dogs stink. It's just a matter of degrees of stench. [laugh]
true [cheeky]
Glad to hear about your Dane still acting young!
24 is the protein on their current food, if I am remembering correct it was there puppy food that was a little higher.
We have changed their diet twice because our one dog (our Shepard mix was having food allergies) and our other dog was stinky because the food wasn't agreeing with him. They are all now currently on food that is Salmon and Potato. We are watching for any food allergies because we just switched the other two to this diet from "gentle giants food". That was great food but they ordered it special for us at our local pet store but ran out and was going to take over a week to get and our other dog was doing well on the salmon and potato food.
Just making adjustment based on the individual dogs really helps!
Don't let Polpetta tell you stories...
Sac makes omelettes for the dogs and she cooks them rice with beans.
Of course Fritzy like Cosmos as well... :D
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[evil]
[bacon]
Get a Cane Corso
100% Italian bred killing machine.
Well, not really killing (right away), but they are the #1 best home defense dog (you can't argue this, it's fact).
Do some reading about them. Extremely smart and don't have the drawbacks of the more common breeds of "defense" dog.
Just pay good money and get GOOD training done for yours and everyone else's safety.
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Quote from: The Bacon Junkie on June 06, 2011, 09:09:30 PM
Don't let Polpetta tell you stories...
Sac makes omelette's for the dogs and she cooks them rice with beans
[evil]
[bacon]
Nice [bacon]
Yes, Carl does make them omelette's from eggs of our hens for our puppies.
I do make them rice but "oh no I don't" ....no beans for my puppies ... It's potato's ... OMG can't imagine them on beans ... Roll'n my eyes @ U
If they don't feel good I give them boiled meat and rice or cottage cheese.
Sometimes we give them warm chicken stock in their kibble instead of warm water. Sometimes they get a little pumpkin in their food too!
As for the Cosmos and Crowbar and Fritzy....well Fritzy loves alcohol but that was Dimby and when I heard what was going on I took Fritzy to get water and sit outside with him Mama ... LOL I was told it wasn't that much... :o
So they get good food and maybe we spoil our puppies a little, I love having the 3 of them :)
I love the Cane Corso's :) I have heard they are loyal but I thought they are sweet too?
Captain Stink Bomb!!!
Our Cane Corso
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A thorough washing with bucket, scrub brush and hose set to "shower" will get him to tolerable for about 3 days
We never forget to move laundry sitting in the washing machine in the basement over to the drier anymore.....why?.....because he smells like a laundry load that was left wet in the washer for a few days
Extremely gentle, affectionate and loving, with those whom they trust and love.....do not like changes to their environment...rearrange your furniture and they get bent out of shape.....very very happy with a solid routine of daily events in sequence and on-schedule
temperament can vary since they are a big favorite in the ghetto now...so backyard breeders are doing their thing to the detriment of the breed
they have moods...they are "mouthy", they drool when uncomfortable with situations....thick viscous spooge....they could make a room full of Turkey Buzzards vomit with one small fart, they snore, they try to use their paws like hands and they throw their body-weight into their play
they are nowhere close to being Presa Canario types though they look similar...they do not have that level of inherent aggression
Since mine is a rescue who survived horrible abuse and abandonment I will never casually trust him with unfamiliar children or unfamiliar people in situations where he does not have the ability to retreat if he wishes to....
he is not aggressive but could be a sharp-shy liability and I don't plan on discovering he is, the hard way
they take their time warming up to new people....
When bored they can dig a grave-sized hole in minutes in the backyard...which is a handy feature
oh holy deity
that is the most frighteningly adorable dog I've ever seen
and the puppy versions are worse
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grace needs one of these as a toy
Corsos are a lot of dog to take care of. Not as Massive as an English Mastiff but a lot to take care of if you don't know how to handle large breeds.
I'd stick with the Newfie Trav!!
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Quote from: IZ on June 07, 2011, 01:00:50 AM
Corsos are a lot of dog to take care of. Not as Massive as an English Mastiff but a lot to take care of if you don't know how to handle large breeds.
I'd stick with the Newfie Trav!!
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Corso's are ...ours is 130 lbs and not overweight....I only have a 60 lbs. advantage on him weight-wise
I am used to large breeds, decades with Shepherds.... but he hopefully will be my last one...I wasn't planning on another but circumstances dictated that I take him on for my daughter and continue working with him
He still has terrible nightmares of his puppyhood probably always will....and every now and then at night he will let out a long, low soft mournful bale in his sleep.... it is a sound the likes of which that could find and melt the deadened heart of a serial killer...it brings tears to my eyes because it is the sad song of abject sorrow wordlessly describing all wrong things that could happen to a creature capable of feeling anything
and while he is a gentle beautiful giant I will never and can never overlook or ignore his damage....his bite-force and size are deadly, the bite energy is 3 times that of a pit-bull and I am not a believer in an animal being anything more than an animal...a creature governed by instincts....dressing Travis the Chimp up like a human does not preclude his capacity to rip or chew a person's face off
Animals are not dress-up dolls...and the misguided trait in humans to imbue human qualities upon an animal are foolish at the least and dangerous at worst
Quote from: Polpetta on June 06, 2011, 04:28:46 PM
Protein shouldn't be higher than 24-26% for large dogs.
My previous dog, lived til he was 16 (Great Dane, Belgian Shepard)
The women that runs Gentle Giants adopts dogs out at 8 - 16 plus years as well as younger.
I now have 3 large dogs and I fully expect that they will live a long life with us! I can't imagine it being less than 16 yrs.
I agree with SacDuc that care and food makes a big difference!
24-26% protein is considered a high protein diet as far as prepared dog food is concerned, and I still think it's likely too low.
I have yet to see any research that supports a low protein diet for health in dogs, but would be curious to see some. Vet's are most often a poor source of info. regarding nutrition, just as doctors are usually a poor source of info. regarding human nutrition.
The longest living and healthiest dogs I've seen (including an 18 year old pitbull who still acts like a pup) are those on high protein, raw diets with added omega 3 fats.
I love cane corso's, however as Rat900 mentioned, their current popularity is producing a lesser dog from backyard breeders. Sadly, this is how it goes as dogs get more popular.
If I were looking for a large protection dog, I would go with the south african borboel........... at the present, the longest living, best tempered, most athletic and the best performance breed of the large mastiff type dogs. I also think they are mighty handsome. Sadly, they are becoming more popular and will likely suffer the same breeding issues as other popular large breeds.
Cane Corsos are cool dogs. Sad about them becoming in fashion for douchebags.
Personally, I think most dogs make good watch dogs as long as they aren't too small. My Dane is a great watch dog due to her size and loud bark. She's also very protective. [thumbsup] Nothing like having a dog stand against the front door and look down on the person knocking. [laugh]
Argentinian Dogos are my favorite breed (I prefer the ears being natural though). Beautiful dogs with great temperments, and I don't think the breed has been ruined by bad breeders. Loyal, protective, fearless, good with other dogs, and affectionate...all in one 120+ lb package. [thumbsup] There is one at the local dog park that is very cool.
I'll probably never have one though as they are rare, and I refuse to buy a dog from a breeder since there are so moany great ones for adoption.
Adult Dogo:
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Puppy shot for Jacob ;D
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I love the dogo as well, although I live in a working class city with a number of rough neighbourhoods and dogos have already become fairly popular with the backyard breeding, douchebag set, as are cane corsos, as are presas. I believe it's due to the pitbull ban in the province I live in. Sadly, the result has been the douchebags moving on to bigger breeds.
I see this happening in short order to the south african boerboel as well. Two years ago I had never actually seen one in the flesh and since that time I have seen four or five, all of which were beautiful dogs with great temperments.......but it's only a matter of time before some start breeding for aggressiveness.
we are in the market for a playmate for grace
the puppy shots kill me
Quote from: pitbull on June 07, 2011, 12:34:59 PM
I love the dogo as well, although I live in a working class city with a number of rough neighbourhoods and dogos have already become fairly popular with the backyard breeding, douchebag set, as are cane corsos, as are presas. I believe it's due to the pitbull ban in the province I live in. Sadly, the result has been the douchebags moving on to bigger breeds.
What a bummer. That pisses me off.
not Lab related but I just found this video while researching Boerbels and thought it was awesome.....not that I want one
South African Boerboel dog training (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4fHvpmkSas#normal)
cute video
I don't understand the existance of the labradoodle. Don't get me wrong, I think they are lovely dogs and everyone of the number I've met have been sweethearts.
However, the standard poodle is a retriever already, so mixing with a lab seems redundant to me, although I'm certainly open to being enlightened on the matter.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on June 09, 2011, 05:40:16 PM
LOL Nice!! [roll]
I think the whole point of the labradoodle is it's a great hypoallergenic family dog that's easy to live with. I never even liked dogs before.
As to the question of the legitimacy of their existence, you would have to ask someone who actually spends the time thinking about that kind of thing.
Well.......the standard poodle is also hypoallergenic, or at least as hypoallergenic as a dog can actually be.
Again, I hope I didn't sound like I don't like labradoodles, because I certainly do and yours looks very sweet in the pic you posted. I just don't understand why they were initially bred, although many people certainly do given their popularity.
Quote from: pitbull on June 09, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Well.......the standard poodle is also hypoallergenic, or at least as hypoallergenic as a dog can actually be.
Again, I hope I didn't sound like I don't like labradoodles, because I certainly do and yours looks very sweet in the pic you posted. I just don't understand why they were initially bred, although many people certainly do given their popularity.
I thought it was to dilute the intelligence and need for tasks/attention of the poodle with a breed that's a bit less cerebral (goldendoodle being a great example)...
I do love labradoodles and poodles both. My neighbor's grey poodle is the best groomed poodle I've ever seen - always with a Tina Turner fro, her back is sometimes racing stripes, sometimes a mohawk, and when the mohawk gets long...dinosaur plate shapes are created! Cracks me up every time :)
Quote from: pitbull on June 09, 2011, 06:47:14 PM
Well.......the standard poodle is also hypoallergenic, or at least as hypoallergenic as a dog can actually be.
Again, I hope I didn't sound like I don't like labradoodles, because I certainly do and yours looks very sweet in the pic you posted. I just don't understand why they were initially bred, although many people certainly do given their popularity.
I feel the same about Puggles. I don't understand the reason? The cute name?? It seems like there was as much thought put into that, as well as, why the two were even bred to begin with. I think I'd take these "designer dogs" a bit more seriously if they came up with names that weren't a combination of the 2 breeds, i.e.: Labradoodle, Cock-a-poo, etc. and they had some standards. That's just me though. I'm into the traditional dog breeds and standards. Every one of the Puggles I've met has been sweet but even the websites I read don't know why they were bred other than to..what it seems..make a buck. :-\
http://www.pugglesavvy.com/ (http://www.pugglesavvy.com/)
Puggles have an extremely short history, and very little is known about when the first cross breed took place or why. What is known is that that Puggle breed originated in America, and a Wisconsin Puggle breeder known as Wallace Havens was the first to register a Puggle litter with the American Canine Hybrid Club (ACHC). Havens is also credited with giving the breed its name. http://www.pugs.org/Puggles.htm (http://www.pugs.org/Puggles.htm)
"Therefore, why take these two wonderful breeds and combine them to make a "breed of the month"? There are very good medical reasons not to mix such health issues and one wonder if the purchasers of these "Puggles" are willing to not only pay the price of medical problems but also undergo the heartache when their fashionable breed experiences life threatening issues.
We urge reputable breeders, dog press and lovers of both breeds to join together in a concentrated effort to educate the public of the possibilities of unsound, unhealthily and questionable temperament whenever you mix breeds"
Quote from: AJ on June 09, 2011, 09:55:33 PM
I thought it was to dilute the intelligence and need for tasks/attention of the poodle with a breed that's a bit less cerebral (goldendoodle being a great example)...
I do love labradoodles and poodles both. My neighbor's grey poodle is the best groomed poodle I've ever seen - always with a Tina Turner fro, her back is sometimes racing stripes, sometimes a mohawk, and when the mohawk gets long...dinosaur plate shapes are created! Cracks me up every time :)
yeah........maybe that's the answer. Mixing in lab or golden retriever does seem to make the dog a little less protective and dog aggressive perhaps.
I was raised by a large standard poodle that lived to 17. He wasn't aggressive per se, but very dominant and territorial towards other dogs. He also was very wary of strangers and would always get between them and a family member.
Quote from: IZ on June 10, 2011, 01:31:59 AM
I feel the same about Puggles. I don't understand the reason? The cute name?? It seems like there was as much thought put into that, as well as, why the two were even bred to begin with. I think I'd take these "designer dogs" a bit more seriously if they came up with names that weren't a combination of the 2 breeds, i.e.: Labradoodle, Cock-a-poo, etc. and they had some standards. That's just me though. I'm into the traditional dog breeds and standards. Every one of the Puggles I've met has been sweet but even the websites I read don't know why they were bred other than to..what it seems..make a buck. :-\
http://www.pugglesavvy.com/ (http://www.pugglesavvy.com/)
Puggles have an extremely short history, and very little is known about when the first cross breed took place or why. What is known is that that Puggle breed originated in America, and a Wisconsin Puggle breeder known as Wallace Havens was the first to register a Puggle litter with the American Canine Hybrid Club (ACHC). Havens is also credited with giving the breed its name.
http://www.pugs.org/Puggles.htm (http://www.pugs.org/Puggles.htm)
"Therefore, why take these two wonderful breeds and combine them to make a "breed of the month"? There are very good medical reasons not to mix such health issues and one wonder if the purchasers of these "Puggles" are willing to not only pay the price of medical problems but also undergo the heartache when their fashionable breed experiences life threatening issues.
We urge reputable breeders, dog press and lovers of both breeds to join together in a concentrated effort to educate the public of the possibilities of unsound, unhealthily and questionable temperament whenever you mix breeds"
while I appreciate the many different breeds, I am in no way a fan of conformation breeding....... I think it has been the ruin of far too many breeds and created a number of breeds that really don't serve much of a purpose. I'm not sure if pug crosses are more or less healthy than purebread pugs, but it seems to me the pug is an inherently unhealthy breed for much the same reason british bulldogs are. I think both breeds are cute and have lots of character, but , I dunno...... I just don't get it I guess.
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We will pick her up in about 3 weeks. Current name possibilities are Lulu and Georgia.