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Title: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 04, 2011, 09:40:27 AM
Ducati Marchesini 10 Spoke Cast Aluminum Rear Wheel Black designed for the 749/999.  Will it fit an S2R?  

Understanding that it will not give me a performance upgrade.  This is purely a cosmetic move.  Will this bolt directly in to my S2R 800?



Title: Re: Marchesini 10 Spoke Rear Wheel - Will it fit an S2R?
Post by: ducpainter on June 04, 2011, 11:47:59 AM
Pretty sure it will

The front will not.


Title: Re: Marchesini 10 Spoke Rear Wheel - Will it fit an S2R?
Post by: DarkStaR on June 04, 2011, 12:15:14 PM
Good luck bolting up a DSS rear wheel on a SSS bike.

No, and No.


Title: Re: Marchesini 10 Spoke Rear Wheel - Will it fit an S2R?
Post by: booger on June 04, 2011, 04:04:58 PM
^ what he said - they will not fit


Title: Re: Marchesini 10 Spoke Rear Wheel - Will it fit an S2R?
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 04, 2011, 04:20:21 PM
Thanks. 

What SSS rear or front wheels will fit the S2R?


Title: Re: Marchesini 10 Spoke Rear Wheel - Will it fit an S2R?
Post by: ducpainter on June 04, 2011, 06:11:39 PM
Good luck bolting up a DSS rear wheel on a SSS bike.

No, and No.
Doh...


and Doh...
  [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: corey on June 06, 2011, 05:12:10 AM
any of these should fit...
http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1773 (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1773)|Monster%20Wheels&CategoryID=2365|Monster%20Wheels%3A%20S2R%2C%20S4R%20-06&collection=168|European%20Motorcycle%20Parts


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: Artful on June 06, 2011, 05:59:38 AM
You can't buy anything new, you said you were done modding.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 06, 2011, 10:26:47 AM
Yes, yes I know. 

BST looks like winner winner chicken dinner but not sure about dropping 2-3K on them and with DC streets being what they are not sure I could deal with a crack rim heartbreak. 

I hear a HM rear wheel will bolt right up and is less expensive.  That might be an option come winter time or something....


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: booger on June 08, 2011, 03:33:47 PM
Check out the Carrozzeria wheels. The black ano V-Tracks look great, are light, and price competitive.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: DRKWNG on June 08, 2011, 06:22:18 PM
I love my BSTs (really, I do) but they are only worth it if you are going to ride the bike with a (fair) bit of anger in your wrist.  The difference they make in the bike's handling is eye-opening, but...  It comes with a steep cover charge.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: junior varsity on June 09, 2011, 05:41:27 AM
+1 on BST.  INCREDIBLE.


Meanwhile, look for any 748-916-996-998 wheels.   Front and rear are interchangeable.   848 rear wheels bolt right up, but not the front.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 09, 2011, 06:24:24 AM
thanks everyone for the suggestion.  Keep'em coming

I love my BSTs (really, I do) but they are only worth it if you are going to ride the bike with a (fair) bit of anger in your wrist.  The difference they make in the bike's handling is eye-opening, but...  It comes with a steep cover charge.

Want to loan me a pair for a couple weeks?


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: DRKWNG on June 09, 2011, 02:12:29 PM
Want to loan me a pair for a couple weeks?

Wouldn't fit.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 01, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
+1 on BST.  INCREDIBLE.

Meanwhile, look for any 748-916-996-998 wheels.   Front and rear are interchangeable.   848 rear wheels bolt right up, but not the front.

So back to this wheel thingie again.  Was at the mechanics this afternoon to drop off the Hyper/848 rear wheel I picked up and the mechanic looked a little puzzled as they are doing maintenance and some other bits on the bike.  For some reason they don't think it will clear the swingarm and I will have to use a spacer blah blah blah to get it to work.  Shouldn't it bolt right up?

Monster S2R Rear - 180/55 ZR17
Hyper Evo/848 Rear - 180/55 ZR17

Am I missing something or do I need more pieces to get this to work on the Monster?


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: junior varsity on October 01, 2011, 04:31:30 PM
AFAIK Should bolt right up fine.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 02, 2011, 03:36:51 AM
AFAIK Should bolt right up fine.

Thanks JV.  Hopefully it will all work, otherwise...


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: junior varsity on October 02, 2011, 08:16:08 AM
The only one I know to be trouble is the front wheel... On the 848/Hyper (and 1098, 1198, SF for that matter) the spacers, rotors and rest won't carry over because of the different hub configuration. 5-bolt/15mm-offset vs 6-bolt/10mm-offset.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: $Lindz$ on October 02, 2011, 09:28:14 AM
The rear will work fine. They probably look like SBK 6 inch wide wheels to most people, and (besides having a larger axle diameter and not fitting) those will hit the Monster tubular swingarm. That is, if you find 6 inch wide wheels that fit the smaller axle (like aftermarket Marchesinis for 996, etc).



Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: Ohm3d on October 02, 2011, 09:35:25 AM
for front wheels, you need 6 bolt, if you want to reuse your current rotors


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 02, 2011, 10:29:00 AM
Thanks for the info re: the rear wheel folks. 

The front is a completely different matter all together.  I'm in the midst of an SBK upgrade.  So the front end will have 999 forks with the matching 10 spoke wheel.  Upper triple has been replaced with a 53mm one from Speedymoto and the lower triple will be shimmed using beer cans to take up the extra 1mm slack that exists due to stock monster forks being 54mm at the bottom. 

Hopefully everything will be done by Tuesday so I can post pics of the work in progress. 


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: junior varsity on October 02, 2011, 12:13:59 PM
For the price of the SpeedyMoto top triple, you could nearly have a set (upper and lower) from IMA - with correct 53/53 bore.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 02, 2011, 03:00:31 PM
For the price of the SpeedyMoto top triple, you could nearly have a set (upper and lower) from IMA - with correct 53/53 bore.

I've heard good things about IMA.  If I had planned this correctly I would have done it over over the winter but the stock forks are abysmal and having come from a bike with nice GP suspension setup i figure why not get it done before my big ride in October.   


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: booger on October 02, 2011, 03:53:14 PM
Threadjack

Wait- when was it that you wadded the yellow S2R800 you bought from Portland? I missed that post... :o

Shame, that bike had some nice bits. The 695 you parted- you crash that one as well?


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 02, 2011, 04:45:01 PM
Threadjack

Wait- when was it that you wadded the yellow S2R800 you bought from Portland? I missed that post... :o

Shame, that bike had some nice bits. The 695 you parted- you crash that one as well?

Trust me I miss that bike as well.  I've never felt more part of a bike than with that one.  The yellow S2R took a turn for the worse when I was hit by a BMW (July).  I didn't post about it.  Wasn't really a fun time, bike had a lot of front end and right side damage.  The forks were bent pretty badly, triples were destroyed and the frame was cracked by the stem housing.  The right rear set was mangled but the frame sliders saved the engine tank and other parts, however, at the end of the day would have cost too much to restore.  I some how walked away from it unscathed.  No rash, broken bones or anything despite the impact and being tossed about 60 feet in the air.  The insurance company was pretty good about things, everything has been settled and I was able to conduct a bike transplant (rear shock, masters and other bits and pieces) before they hauled it away. 

Working on another masterpiece hopefully.  This is a matte black canvas so a lot of the parts that I pulled off the yellow bike work well with the new bike. 

The 695 was tipped over by a careless driver while parked so I parted that just because I really wanted a SSS. 


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: junior varsity on October 03, 2011, 05:38:25 AM
I've heard good things about IMA.  If I had planned this correctly I would have done it over over the winter but the stock forks are abysmal and having come from a bike with nice GP suspension setup i figure why not get it done before my big ride in October.   

They are fantastic - I've got them on three bikes currently and will put them on the 4th when funds and time allow. The lower is extra beefy which is very nice.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: The Mad King Pepe' on October 03, 2011, 07:34:58 AM
They are fantastic - I've got them on three bikes currently and will put them on the 4th when funds and time allow. The lower is extra beefy which is very nice.
+1 on that! Wunmi, check out the pics on my Bianca thread or come by if you want to see them in person.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: junior varsity on October 03, 2011, 08:28:37 AM
If you have already ordered the SM top, you can add just the IMA lower, but a full set is incredibly reasonably priced, so you might dispense with the SM upper for financial reasons.

I am working on being a US affiliate for IMA to help answer questions in English, etc


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 03, 2011, 04:09:57 PM
Here are the tasty goodies I have for my Monster mods currently on deck.  Love the look and feel of the gilles tools rearsets.  They feel 10x sturdier than the 4Racing rearsets I had on the yellow and black Monster.

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/19c336e5.jpg)



Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: booger on October 03, 2011, 07:08:36 PM
good call on the Gilles rearsets, dey be awesome

these going on an 800 or 1k?


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 04, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
good call on the Gilles rearsets, dey be awesome

these going on an 800 or 1k?

They are going on the 800.

Just spent 7 hours at the shop working on and watching the tech work on my bike.  Looking at her in surgery sucks........

999 forks lower caliper arms are bent don't ask me how.  Searching for new 999 forks if these can't be tweaked to work.  [bang]

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/b98f7bdc.jpg)


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: DRKWNG on October 04, 2011, 05:01:39 PM
Please tell me he has something between that lift and your exhaust.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: Artful on October 04, 2011, 06:47:56 PM
Please tell me he has something between that lift and your exhaust.

Obviously! The oil filter... n00b. [evil]


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: DRKWNG on October 05, 2011, 03:53:34 AM
Obviously! The oil filter... n00b. [evil]

Take a look at the light between the filter and the lift's plate Ted.


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 05, 2011, 04:49:16 AM
Please tell me he has something between that lift and your exhaust.

Until we got the forks on there a little bit later, the jack was the only life line.  I know not recommended  [thumbsdown].  She's currently resting with the triples installed, forks and front wheel.  They're trying to see if they can fix the bend or whether I need to order Showa fork lowers. 


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: Artful on October 05, 2011, 05:03:21 AM
Take a look at the light between the filter and the lift's plate Ted.

No, that's from the Rizoma LED oil filter cap.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 05, 2011, 06:30:51 AM
This has completely morphed from a simple rear rim discussion to a build at this point.  Changed the title to Feankenmonster....


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 05, 2011, 10:22:57 AM
Just got my hands on 999 forks again.  let's see how this works out, take 2! [bang]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 06, 2011, 06:16:13 PM
Finally got everything sorted out with the bike. 

Unfortunately, it turns out the 999 forks I got originally were bent and unusable.  Anyways, the bike has come together nicely. 

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/photo.jpg)

Here are the adjustments to what was a pretty much stock S2R800.

From front to back, the 5 spoke front rim was replaced by one from a 999 along with 999 forks and a complete Speedymoto SBK triple.  New Woodcraft clipons. The stock hand controls were replaced with ones from an 848 with Rizoma reservoirs.  I got rid of the PCIII and went with the Dobeck TFI and a reflashed ECU from Houston Superbikes.  Speedymoto belt covers and sliders were installed.  Stock rear sets were dumped for Gilles tools  [bacon] and the stock rear shock was upped to a Penske rear shock.  Wave rotor replaced the stock one and at the rear 5 spoke was swapped for an 848.

Definitely a different ride than what I am used to.  The 999 forks with SBK triples changes the way it handles dramatically.  Still need to tweak a couple of things like the clip-ons and get the forks dialed in with the rear shock accurately. 

otherwise just ride the piss out of her and stay away from cagers. 


Title: Re: Rear Wheel Fit for an S2R 800
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on October 06, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
Until we got the forks on there a little bit later, the jack was the only life line.  I know not recommended  [thumbsdown]. 

steel rod resting on between horizontal exhaust and cylinder with a jack stand on either end.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: booger on October 07, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
I told you the forks were bent. :-X

Steel rod wrapped in cut up bicycle tube rubber passing thru frame just above airbox & behind head tube, suspended on stand made from 2x4s held together with drywall screws & plywood. Best front end workstand there is. Super stable and won't hurt a damned thing.

I would never ever jack a bike up under the cylinder head or exhaust. You got away with it this time.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: EEL on October 08, 2011, 01:28:39 PM
Take a ladder span it over your bike and hang it from tiedowns. Much safer IMO and trellis frame makes this even easier.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: corey on October 11, 2011, 01:14:38 PM
20/20, Finding some issues with those woodcraft clip-on brackets tapping on the frame when you move them in close enough to be comfortable?
I know i did with my setup, which looks identical to yours. Maybe those IMA trips are making a difference for you...


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 11, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
20/20, Finding some issues with those woodcraft clip-on brackets tapping on the frame when you move them in close enough to be comfortable?
I know i did with my setup, which looks identical to yours. Maybe those IMA trips are making a difference for you...

I did have some issues with the Woodcrafts because of their downward slant, however, I was able to get them to work.  The ergo's will take some time for me to get used to.  The Speedymoto SBK triple helps....

Gonna get the 999 forks and rear shock tuned this weekend as the front-end is a little stiff....


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on October 11, 2011, 05:33:13 PM
Gonna get the 999 forks and rear shock tuned this weekend as the front-end is a little stiff....

ride harder.   :P


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 12, 2011, 05:37:34 AM
ride harder.   :P

Ha


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: corey on October 13, 2011, 06:26:35 AM
ride harder.   :P

that was my solution lol... although i'm probably a bit heavier than the OP


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 13, 2011, 06:45:47 AM
that was my solution lol... although i'm probably a bit heavier than the OP

I'm about 170 with gear and 5'7.  Insert song lyrics about I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller....


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on October 13, 2011, 07:31:03 AM
back the preload out - if you are using clipons, which get more weight over the front end, you might be "pretty close" when you get sag set up - close enough for gov't work - and can weight to change springs until "tomorrow".   If you are riding a s2r 'geezer-glider-special' (with riser on handlebars or 'tall-boys' mounted above the triple), you've taken even more weight off the front than originally, and you'll see it when trying to set the sag f/r, would be more likely to need to drop a spring # or 2 as I doubt backing out preload will do enough then.


also, if you are 170 with gear - and that meaning boots, leathers, back protector, gloves, helmet - stop on your way home and eat a hamburger.  you sound emaciated for a 'merican.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: corey on October 13, 2011, 07:56:51 AM
Yea. I'm about 205lb geared up. The .95 springs (and tasty ohlins valves) in my 999 forks seem perfect, although i did jack the rear up a bit.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on October 13, 2011, 08:10:15 AM
Yea. I'm about 205lb geared up. The .95 springs (and tasty ohlins valves) in my 999 forks seem perfect, although i did jack the rear up a bit.

I've got the ohlins internals in my 998 forks, they are fantastic indeed. And likewise, the OEM sbk springs work great for me (with preload wound in a bit - i'm a bit heavier - by at least 25 lbs.)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: teddy037.3 on October 13, 2011, 08:23:28 AM
also, if you are 170 with gear - and that meaning boots, leathers, back protector, gloves, helmet - stop on your way home and eat a hamburger.  you sound emaciated for a 'merican.

I'm 160 geared. I approve of this advice.

make sure it's got bacon and cheese. and onion rings. and bbq sauce.

dang it, now I'm hungry.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 13, 2011, 10:02:47 AM
I'm 160 geared. I approve of this advice.

make sure it's got bacon and cheese. and onion rings. and bbq sauce.

dang it, now I'm hungry.

Just ate a burger for lunch with fries and a shake in your honor.  I've been gifted with an awesome metabolism (shout out to my rents) and at 31 still look like I did at 25.

I've got clip-ons to help put more weight over the front end and I'll check to make sure the preload is backed out all the way.  May be just a tweak here or there but should be set.  Never knew the S2R was the geezer glider  [Dolph]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: teddy037.3 on October 13, 2011, 10:08:25 AM
Just ate a burger for lunch with fries and a shake in your honor. 

 [thumbsup]

I do suppose 'geezer glider' is less derogatory than 'chick bike,' which I used to ride (M620)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on October 13, 2011, 10:36:25 AM
Geezer Glider is for the super comfy raised handlebar setups, squishy gel seats and generally "grocery-getter"


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: teddy037.3 on October 13, 2011, 10:41:49 AM
Geezer Glider is for the super comfy raised handlebar setups, squishy gel seats and generally "grocery-getter"

ah, like my motard  ;D well, stock seat...


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 20, 2011, 09:57:58 AM
Well the Frankenmonster is coming along nicely.  Rode without a front fender in the rain.  What a difference a little bit of CF makes.  I'm now playing with the idea of changing out hte matte black tank witht he yellow racing stripe with an acid yellow tank and black racing stripe.  Thoughts?

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/photo-2.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/photo-1.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Desdamonda/photo-3.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: teddy037.3 on October 20, 2011, 03:45:21 PM
idk, I like the dark/yellow stripe better


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Travman on October 20, 2011, 03:47:23 PM
+1, I agree


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 26, 2011, 04:57:53 AM
Put the yellow tank back on and the bike looks better in black.  The seat cowl will be treated pretty soon to match the tank.  [clap]  Next to wrap the forks in black.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: badgalbetty on October 26, 2011, 08:30:25 AM
looks great, completely different! Thank you for fixing her up and riding. Hope that you are both well...
Erica.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on October 26, 2011, 10:54:23 AM
looks great, completely different! Thank you for fixing her up and riding. Hope that you are both well...
Erica.

I was able to save the tank, rear shock, belt covers, brake calipers, rear cowl, slave cylinder, master cylinders, levers and tall boys before the MAN took her away.   [beer]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on November 05, 2011, 05:24:58 PM
Got some advice from Ducpainter and repainted my belt covers black and gold. 

Checked out the RaceTech site and ordered some new springs for the forks and shock to handle my light ass.  Was able to back out the pre-load as much as possible which helped but wasn't able to do much other than that as the fork and shock springs are too stiff. 



Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on November 14, 2011, 03:08:39 AM
Beginning some winter modifications (springs, powder coating, etc)

She ended the season looking like this......

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0714.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0556.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0553.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0554.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0713.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: thought on November 14, 2011, 04:38:37 AM
looks great man, love the color combo


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: gOoIe B on November 14, 2011, 07:20:45 AM
whats up with the clutch cover?  looks like that automotive undercarriage rubber spray.

Nice s2r8  [thumbsup]  I'll be disassembling mine for more powdercoating and suspension upgrades this winter, as well.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on November 14, 2011, 07:56:24 AM
whats up with the clutch cover?  looks like that automotive undercarriage rubber spray.

Nice s2r8  [thumbsup]  I'll be disassembling mine for more powdercoating and suspension upgrades this winter, as well.

A Failed attempt by the last owner.......it's on the winter mod list! 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on November 16, 2011, 07:28:09 AM
Gettin around to cleaning up the brake/clutch lines.

My question for those who can help, with 848 master cylinders, Brembo goldline calipers and 999 forks, do I just do I need to get custom lines for the proper length or can I just go with 999 brake and clutch lines?



Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on November 16, 2011, 08:52:10 AM
Gettin around to cleaning up the brake/clutch lines.

My question for those who can help, with 848 master cylinders, Brembo goldline calipers and 999 forks, do I just do I need to get custom lines for the proper length or can I just go with 999 brake and clutch lines?



There are some differences.

The 999 brake lines have a 90 degree banjo fitting at the master. It means that the line will point straight down and will be difficult to route 'hidden' through the rear of the headlight, as stock.

At the 999 caliper, the banjos are almost straight.

So, 999 lines does not fit very well.

You need lines with an almost straight master banjo and 90 degree caliper banjos if you want them to be routed as stock. There might be some stock lines that fit, but I don't know which ones. Custom lines, maybe black, gold or yellow would look nice, don't you think? They can be made with a rotating banjo/line fitting which can be a welcome feature to allow easy routing.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on November 16, 2011, 08:54:15 AM
and custom lines are not all that expensive... I get mine from Spiegler USA - I actually need to order another line shortly since I've changed my rear caliper setup.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on November 17, 2011, 12:09:59 PM
My winter mods to do list-

Yellow S2R Tank - Caswell coated (in progress)
Yellow S2R Tank and Seat Cowl - Stripped and painted red with a gun metal stripe kit and custom S2R decals (courtesy of Cutgrafix)
Sargent Seat - Ordered
Spiegler Brake/Clutch Lines - Black and Gold
Ceramic coat Ex-box - Headed to Figure Engineering on 11/19
Repaint Belt Covers - Check
Front/Rear Axle Sliders - Check (Hate that my rear stand is no longer useful with sliders installed)
Replace right side engine cover
Front and Rear Springs - Front (check)/Rear (?)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on November 17, 2011, 12:20:58 PM
You forgot this on your list  8)

http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/ergal-carbon-schaltstange.html (http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/ergal-carbon-schaltstange.html)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on November 17, 2011, 12:40:59 PM
You forgot this on your list  8)

http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/ergal-carbon-schaltstange.html (http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/de/ergal-carbon-schaltstange.html)

should probably get that CF kick stand while I'm at it too....


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on November 17, 2011, 02:56:41 PM
should probably get that CF kick stand while I'm at it too....

Off course  [roll]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on November 21, 2011, 07:09:12 PM
Got these from the mail lady

(http://[url=http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0568.jpg]http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0568.jpg[/url]) 

Tank has been shipped to European Motorcycles in Pittsburgh for caswell coating and the quat-d exhaust has been sent to Figure Engineering to be ceramic coated.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on December 01, 2011, 09:05:20 AM
Picked up a Dynamic Corse pod filter kit from Motowheels to take the place of the ratty small filters the previous owner installed. 

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/photo1.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Slide Panda on December 01, 2011, 09:33:36 AM
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0568.jpg)

Nice toes


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on December 01, 2011, 09:43:24 AM
leave my athletically mangled toes out of this.  Gonna have to photoshop that picture.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on December 01, 2011, 10:15:54 AM
please add the foot of sasquatch f you do go through the trouble of editing that photo.   


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on December 01, 2011, 10:22:39 AM
please add the foot of sasquatch f you do go through the trouble of editing that photo.   
ha


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on December 02, 2011, 04:58:39 AM
Got the tank back from Lee @ European Motorcycles.  Took less than a week for turnaround.  Awesome guy, great to work with.  Tank was coated well (Smooth like glass).  Now off to paint for a new look.  Tank is being painted Ferrari Rosso Corso red with a gunmetal racing stripe and Ducati decals. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on December 03, 2011, 01:41:25 PM
My winter mods to do list-

Yellow S2R Tank - Caswell coated (in progress)
Yellow S2R Tank and Seat Cowl - Stripped and painted red with a gun metal stripe kit and custom S2R decals (courtesy of Cutgrafix)
Sargent Seat - Ordered
Spiegler Brake/Clutch Lines - Black and Gold
Ceramic coat Ex-box - Headed to Figure Engineering on 11/19
Repaint Belt Covers - Check
Front/Rear Axle Sliders - Check (Hate that my rear stand is no longer useful with sliders installed)
Replace right side engine cover
Front and Rear Springs - Front (check)/Rear (?)

Anyone have an issue with their Sargent seat?  Have been fiddling with mine for some time now because the seat somehow sits above where it should and doesn't completely slide into the recessed areas of the tank well. 

Thinking about sending it back at this point since it's $400.00 bucks and I am not impressed thus far and the seating position is now really high.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on December 20, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
Just got the tank back from the painters and it looks $$.  Decided to go with the Ducati yellow with a gun metal grey racing stripe kit.  Not off centered like the S2R but centered like the S4Rs with the S4R badging changed to S2R.  Diggin the look. 

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/photo23.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/photo22.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: lazylightnin717 on December 20, 2011, 04:53:48 PM
Great choice of colors and I can dig the S2R on the tank  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: thought on December 20, 2011, 05:03:42 PM
looks awesome man :D


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on December 22, 2011, 02:12:42 PM
Mounted the new tank and cowl.  Mellow yellow is back!

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0793.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0794.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0792.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: dbran1949 on December 22, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Looks great!


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Curmudgeon on December 22, 2011, 06:22:18 PM

Cute! But that plate is WAAAAY too easy to remember!  [roll]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: ducatiz on December 22, 2011, 06:57:08 PM
very nice like the color combo a lot


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: venomousr1993 on December 22, 2011, 08:32:15 PM
Who did the paint work???  I need my tail cowl recleared and two chips repaired on my tank and recleared


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on December 23, 2011, 07:24:37 AM
That's fun


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on December 23, 2011, 10:48:29 AM
Who did the paint work???  I need my tail cowl recleared and two chips repaired on my tank and recleared

Sent you a PM. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on January 01, 2012, 02:28:15 PM
I really need to stop tinkering with this make the beast with two backsin bike and just flog the shit out of it when the weather is nice outside. 

Installed the Arrow exhaust i purchased for a steal off flea bay.  OMG it sounds sweet.  Has such a nice low bass thump to it at idle and it just howls at speed.  Much louder than I ever expected but love it.  Had a nice grin during my trip around the city. 

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0806.jpg)

I could have it ceramic coated black but for some reason I think that will it looks is perfectly AOK.  I thought i was going to miss the open rear wheel look with the quat but I don't. 

This bike shouldn't need anything else except to be ridden.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on January 13, 2012, 05:07:33 AM
They're not Ohlins but took her out for a ride yesterday after her racetech springs were installed.  What a difference it makes when you have the right springs.  OMG!!! Tracking felt a lot better. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on January 13, 2012, 06:55:38 AM
They're not Ohlins but took her out for a ride yesterday after her racetech springs were installed.  What a difference it makes when you have the right springs.  OMG!!! Tracking felt a lot better. 

Amen.   At least now the valves can do what they are supposed to do!   (have you had someone help you measure and set f/r sag?  there are about 11ty billion videos of doing it on youtubes)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on January 13, 2012, 06:57:15 AM
Also, I remember thinking the quat-d exbox was quieter than expected too.   Not bad, but was not near as loud as the DP reverse megs I had afterwards


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on January 13, 2012, 06:58:47 AM
Amen.   At least now the valves can do what they are supposed to do!   (have you had someone help you measure and set f/r sag?  there are about 11ty billion videos of doing it on youtubes)

Yup JV.  Has the shop that installed them help me set it all up.  Bike feels way different.  

Now, if only winter could pass quickly so warmer weather can return and riding can commence again  [Dolph]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on January 16, 2012, 01:48:41 PM
Just some updated pics.....

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0599.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0597.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0596.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Lars D on January 16, 2012, 02:17:26 PM
It definitely needs to be ridden. Looks good [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on January 16, 2012, 02:20:22 PM
I'm officially a fan of the black/acid yellow paint scheme [thumbsup]

Not 100% sure about the gold, but it's not a big deal IMO.

What happened to the über-cool gas cap? It's lower at the rear - missing/wrong spacers?


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on January 17, 2012, 10:08:40 AM
I'm officially a fan of the black/acid yellow paint scheme [thumbsup]

Not 100% sure about the gold, but it's not a big deal IMO.

What happened to the über-cool gas cap? It's lower at the rear - missing/wrong spacers?

Thx Stop and Lars D. 

Yup Stop - wrong washer!  I keep going back and forth about the gold.  Part of me wants to keep it the other part of me wants to have those pieces hard anno'd black.  We shall see.  Still have some time before the season starts and MotoGP in Aug.  [thumbsup]

Waiting on the CF monopost seat I bought from a member to arrive from Italy. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Travman on January 17, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Your bike looks great. The gold anodized pieces do clash with the yellow however.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on January 29, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
With the nice weather comes the opportunity to do some more minor work on Frankenmonster.  

With the help of Monsterparts, I got a nice set of Galfer front wave rotors.  With the new rotors and pads, braking should improve.  I've also got to figure out what to do with the carbon fiber monopost seat I purchased from a member.  It fits like shit.  Need to use my existing seat to make a fiberglass mold and incorporate the new CF pieces I got for the perfect fit.  Should take less than a month from start to finish.  

For now, riding the shit out of her as the weather is DC will be nice for the next 72 hours.   [Dolph]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 03, 2012, 03:31:34 PM
Anyone know what colors the S2R 800's came in other than

Black Frame
   - Acid Yellow with Black Stripe
   - Tangerine with Black Stripe
   - Black with Tangerine Stripe
   - Matte Black

Red Frame
   - Red with White Stripe

Reason I ask is I'm trying to determine the next color scheme......I love my matte black acid yellow stripe look and the acid yellow gunmetal tank scheme.  For some reason I feel like an all black frame with black accents, levers, reservoirs with a Ducati white tank with carbon stripe would look money.  Too bad the configuration can't do this scheme.  Anyone seen a pure white not arctic white S2R Monster?


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: DucHead on February 04, 2012, 05:10:58 AM
Now for that swingarm...


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 04, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
Got rid of the pod filters today and installed the stock air box with a little mod to increase flow.  Also tossed out my heavy ass battery and installed the Shorai.  Luv it!.  Bike sounds bit quieter with stock air box but for some reason i definitely feel like the bike responds better when I get on the throttle. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 12, 2012, 02:33:46 PM
Now for that swingarm...

what's wrong with my swingarm?

Correct front galfer wave rotors should arrive Monday.  New carbon fiber race stripe kit has arrived for the tank and seat cowl I'm having painted Rosso Red.  Gold rizoma reservoirs, CRG levers and preload adjusters have been painted semi-gloss black. 

Can pretty much call this project complete.  Now to find myself a 749 or 999 to begin tinkering with.....


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on February 12, 2012, 03:11:39 PM
what's wrong with my swingarm?


We'd like another color  8)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on February 12, 2012, 03:16:01 PM

Can pretty much call this project complete.

 [laugh] [laugh] [clap] [thumbsup]

Right!


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 12, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
[laugh] [laugh] [clap] [thumbsup]

Right!

Dare I ask this question aloud, but what else is there to do?  i have two tanks (custom colored), aftermarket levers, forks, triples, brake calipers, master cylinders, brake lines, rotors, a seat, rims, tail light, slave cylinder belt covers, frame sliders, flywheel, reservoirs and carbon fiber bit here and there.  Anything else would just be throwing money down the tank.... [laugh]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on February 12, 2012, 05:40:12 PM
Pistons, cams, crank, internal gears,  etc ;)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 12, 2012, 05:44:42 PM
Pistons, cams, crank, internal gears,  etc ;)

If I was going to go that route, would I just need to buy another engine to drop in there instead of all that work to get very little ROI?


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on February 12, 2012, 06:31:27 PM
Well an 1100 would be better but an 800 is close enough to a 900 as a base to build from


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: ducatiz on February 12, 2012, 07:28:31 PM
pick up an DS1000 and soup it up..


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 12, 2012, 07:39:42 PM
pick up an DS1000 and soup it up..

 [evil] A friend has one and I like it a LOT........never ridden one though, however, the lines are ones I can work with  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: The Bearded Duc on February 13, 2012, 03:20:04 AM
[evil] A friend has one and I like it a LOT........never ridden one though, however, the lines are ones I can work with  [thumbsup]

Hehehe...[twisting my mustache]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUCATI-07-MONSTER-S2R-1000-MOTOR-ENGINE-TRANSMISSION-/280581537893?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4153f68065#ht_500wt_1204 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUCATI-07-MONSTER-S2R-1000-MOTOR-ENGINE-TRANSMISSION-/280581537893?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4153f68065#ht_500wt_1204)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-Ducati-Multistrada-1000-Engine-w-Stator-Cover-/290584522730?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43a82fefea#ht_2966wt_956 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-Ducati-Multistrada-1000-Engine-w-Stator-Cover-/290584522730?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43a82fefea#ht_2966wt_956)

I gotta see this!  [evil]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 13, 2012, 05:36:17 AM
Hehehe...[twisting my mustache]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUCATI-07-MONSTER-S2R-1000-MOTOR-ENGINE-TRANSMISSION-/280581537893?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4153f68065#ht_500wt_1204 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DUCATI-07-MONSTER-S2R-1000-MOTOR-ENGINE-TRANSMISSION-/280581537893?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4153f68065#ht_500wt_1204)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-Ducati-Multistrada-1000-Engine-w-Stator-Cover-/290584522730?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43a82fefea#ht_2966wt_956 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/04-Ducati-Multistrada-1000-Engine-w-Stator-Cover-/290584522730?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43a82fefea#ht_2966wt_956)

I gotta see this!  [evil]

Duc750...you are horrible but thanks for the links.  I almost bought that S2R1000 engine in MD but I don't trust the seller.  He sold the forks to my crashed S2R800 didn't note int he sale that there were bent or tweaked to some degree....So I wonder what shape that 1000 engine is in.  

Now the Multi 1000 - what would it take to drop that Multi engine into my S2R?  [popcorn]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 14, 2012, 10:09:56 AM
New Galfer rotors finally with the correct bolt pattern  [drool]

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0851.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: The Bearded Duc on February 14, 2012, 12:17:58 PM
Duc750...you are horrible but thanks for the links.  

Ha, sorry!

I figured since we have the same bike and all I've done to mine is a mid pipe I'd try to live vicariously through you!


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 14, 2012, 01:09:30 PM
Ha, sorry!

I figured since we have the same bike and all I've done to mine is a mid pipe I'd try to live vicariously through you!

Live on my friend.  Also if you need any spare parts or what not let me know.....Got lotsa stuff lying around here
  - Original reservoirs
  - Rizoma aftermarket reservoirs ones (size medium)
  - Excellent condition EBC rotors (bolt right up to your current 5 spokes)
  - Sprockets
etc....

That engine does look mighty tasty, however, if I drop a $1 buying the engine and most likely another $1K to have it dropped it my bike and then tuned correctly and buy the right exhaust, maybe I should just buy another Duc??


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Travman on February 14, 2012, 06:35:04 PM
 Getting the 1000 engine would be a slippery slope. Next step would be 1078 or 1123 pistons and a balance bottom end


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: The Bearded Duc on February 15, 2012, 02:09:19 AM
Getting the 1000 engine would be a slippery slope. Next step would be 1078 or 1123 pistons and a balance bottom end

+1

But I guess it's all or nothing.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 15, 2012, 03:21:32 AM
+1

But I guess it's all or nothing.

(http://paulpeterson.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tap-out.jpg)

Too much.....


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on February 15, 2012, 08:40:35 AM
Oil cooler lines from an 08 hypermotard will fit, right?  Rerouting oil line when I do the brake/clutch lines.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on March 08, 2012, 07:34:45 AM
Yes... oil lines is oil lines.  worst case scenario you must update the fittings on the oil cooler and at the crankcases, but I think that might only be the early Monsters.



making your own is way cheaper than buying hypermotard oil lines (even used ones), and putting them together is pretty easy - you can get supplies at Jegs for example.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on March 08, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
Yes... oil lines is oil lines.  worst case scenario you must update the fittings on the oil cooler and at the crankcases, but I think that might only be the early Monsters.

making your own is way cheaper than buying hypermotard oil lines (even used ones), and putting them together is pretty easy - you can get supplies at Jegs for example.

thx


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on April 02, 2012, 05:17:32 AM
Yeah I know, I've said it before but I've finally gotten to a place where I am happy with FrankenMonster.  Have been riding her around in her current state for a bit and everything feels perfect.  

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0902.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/IMG_0901.jpg)

2006 Ducati S2R800

SUSPENSION
Showa Fully Adjustable Forks (999)
RaceTech Internals
Penske 8983 Adjustable Shock with 180lb spring
Ohlins Steering Damper with Motowheels Billet Fork Mount

CHASIS
Custom Ducati Yellow Tank/Seat Cowl with Titanium Grey Racing Stripe
Speedymoto SBK Triple Tree
OZ Forged Alum. Piega Rims

ENGINE
Fast Frank Lightened Flywheel
Yoyodyne Clutch Slave Cylinder
Speedymoto Belt Covers
Teclusion EFI
Shorai Battery
Race ECU by Huston Superbikes
Titanium Arrow Race Full Exhaust

OTHER BITS
Galfer Wave Front Rotors
Galfer Wave Rear Rotor
DP 999 CF Front Fender
848 Clutch/Brake Masters Cylinders
Rizoma Reservoirs
CRG RC2 Levers
Woodcraft Clipons
CRG Lane Splitter Mirrors
DucaBike Gas Cap
DP Gel Seat
Gilles Tool Rearsets
Clear Integrated Taillight
SSR Quick Change Sprocket
DP Carbon Fiber Rear Hugger
Gold DID Chain
14T Front Sprocket



She's just perfect!


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: NAKID on April 02, 2012, 04:24:37 PM
Sorry, I really prefer the look of the matte tank with the yellow stripe....


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: minnesotamonster on April 03, 2012, 07:45:26 AM
Looks great, but I agree, the black with yellow stripe looks better.

And PC that swing arm black!


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: xsephirot on April 04, 2012, 11:12:17 AM
Monsta your s2r looks great! Loving that nakiddd look. The only thing I would fix is your tailight. It doesn't seem to be sitting flush and at the same angle as the seat cowl


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: seanster on April 04, 2012, 12:36:54 PM
forgot to mentioned the mirror?  ;D

beautiful bike, agreed with the tail light fix.



Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on May 18, 2012, 12:32:05 PM
Question for those of you who have done the flywheel upgrade.  Finally got around to having the lightened stock flywheel put in the bike.  While I am impressed with the her newfound acceleration, I have stalled a number of times in traffic and on hills, etc.  I understand this is normal as the bike is a bit touchier.  

Did anyone experience a higher rev to get the bike going when engaging the clutch in 1st gear?  Mine was at about 2K before the flywheel and is now at 3,200.  Also anyone with adjustable levers change their positioning to deal with this newfound touchiness?


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on May 18, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
question:  why are you shifting to second before 3,200 rpm?    That's what I'm understanding you to say when you say:

Mine was at about 2K before the flywheel and is now at 3,200 to get her to go into second without issue. 


If this is so, that is not how I ride the thing.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on May 18, 2012, 02:19:35 PM
question:  why are you shifting to second before 3,200 rpm?    That's what I'm understanding you to say when you say:

If this is so, that is not how I ride the thing.

Just re-read that.........WHOOPS  [bang].  When shifting I tend to do it around 6-7,500K

When engaging the clutch in 1st gear it used to be at about 2K and now it's around 3K......


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on May 18, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
I noticed some of that, but haven't stalled much.

However it all became smoother/easier to modulate with the 28 mm YoYoDyne clutch slave cylinder [thumbsup]
(which I now see in the picture that you already did, so yes, more revs)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: rule62 on May 18, 2012, 03:12:13 PM
I had my stock flywheel machined down to about 1.5 pounds. The higher revs are typical. Nothing to worry about. You've got to give it a little more throttle/engage 1st a bit later because what used to lug the engine a little before, will now stall it due to the decreased rotating mass of the flywheel. I bumped up my idle RPM a tiny bit to avoid some stalling that I experienced when stopped at lights etc. In my opinion, dollar for dollar, the lightened flywheel ranks in the top 5 mods that can be done to these smaller displacement engines. Spins up like a champ.

I've got stock coffins, levers, and slave, so no experience there for me.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Raux on May 18, 2012, 03:15:41 PM
i agree. the flywheel just helps the smaller bikes hit their sweet spot so muc faster


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on May 18, 2012, 07:59:57 PM
I noticed some of that, but haven't stalled much.

However it all became smoother/easier to modulate with the 28 mm YoYoDyne clutch slave cylinder [thumbsup]
(which I now see in the picture that you already did, so yes, more revs)

Yup [thumbsup] yup

I had my stock flywheel machined down to about 1.5 pounds. The higher revs are typical. Nothing to worry about. You've got to give it a little more throttle/engage 1st a bit later because what used to lug the engine a little before, will now stall it due to the decreased rotating mass of the flywheel. I bumped up my idle RPM a tiny bit to avoid some stalling that I experienced when stopped at lights etc. In my opinion, dollar for dollar, the lightened flywheel ranks in the top 5 mods that can be done to these smaller displacement engines. Spins up like a champ.

I've got stock coffins, levers, and slave, so no experience there for me.

Rule thanks for the info.  I will have to have my idle adjusted.  She was idling near 1K which I think is contributing to more stalls.  Will have it increased a bit and see where we end up. 

I will not lie, just riding her 40 minutes home from shop, I can't believe that this is not a must do when you first get this or any smaller Monster.  Incredible acceleration vs. stock flywheel and I just have a stock one that's been lightened.  I know it comes with some downsides, but $$$ vs performance, performance wins out.  She gets to 100 in the blink of an eye now..... 

Let's see if we can smooth her out.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: rule62 on May 18, 2012, 09:16:37 PM
Let's see if we can smooth her out.

Synch the throttle-bodies, new plugs, new fuel filter, air filter, etc... A lighter flywheel will allow any roughness to be emphasized, but when you get it running smoothly, it's bliss. After that, you can really get the most out of a Power Commander III with a custom advanced map.

For now... just back the air-bleeds out a quarter turn or so, to see if the increase in idle RPM helps the stalling.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on May 19, 2012, 02:16:38 PM
Took the bike out again to get re-aquainted with her.  Is it me or does a lightened flywheel mean that the bike really has to really ridden?  Once the engine reaches 3K and I'm in 2nd, it seems like 6K is now the sweet spot and it wants to be flogged and not babied around anymore without that heavy flywheel.

Commuting will get interesting if that's the case! [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on May 19, 2012, 03:34:13 PM
The bike is not afraid of revs - neither should you  [thumbsup]  (clutch control makes it easier to tame)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on May 21, 2012, 07:06:16 AM
The bike is not afraid of revs - neither should you  [thumbsup]  (clutch control makes it easier to tame)

+1


The lightweight flywheel, as others have noted, will stall easier because it has less mass.   If you weren't giving the bike enough throttle/RPM, there's not as much mass in the flywheel for inertia to keep the pistons moving on the compression stroke. 


I think downshifting with the lightweight flywheel is easier, but its been a long time since I was on a heavy flywheel bike (got one in the garage now, will have it running by next weekend I expect...)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on May 28, 2012, 03:26:40 PM
The bike feels amazing.  I was able to have the idle increased, messed with my clutch lever positioning and took some time to listen to the engine while scooting around town.

Agreed that this is one of the best mods one can do to a bike. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: jrv1000 on May 30, 2012, 07:30:26 AM
Great info here. This will be the next mod on my s2r. Need to core the ehaust too..


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Heath on May 31, 2012, 02:15:41 PM
This thread is giving me ideas for which I do not have money for.  :'(


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on May 31, 2012, 05:42:40 PM
This thread is giving me ideas for which I do not have money for.  :'(

Trust me I know the feeling......  [beer]

Whether it was watching the youtube clips of your S2R, Kopfhunter beast, StopinTime customization, Eyduc's Italian beauty Lucille or Travman's simple taste and style, every time I look at an S*R I get inspired to do something different.  While I've called this project done, once or twice now there are always things that make me want to make my wallet cry (BST's or forged Alum rims, dry clutch conversion, Ohlins steering damper) etc. the list goes on........

Right now I miss the look of the exposed rear wheel, makes me wish I had my (quat-D exbox).  However the sound of the Arrow's makes me remember why I got them and can live with the

Happy that this thread is inspiring you to continue to evolve your Monster canvas.  


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on May 31, 2012, 08:39:08 PM

.........every time I look at an S*R I get inspired .....
...................... make my wallet cry .....
  

https://www304.americanexpress.com/credit-card/compare

 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 01, 2012, 02:06:34 AM
https://www304.americanexpress.com/credit-card/compare

 [thumbsup]

Stop - thanks for the helpful recommendation.....


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on June 01, 2012, 09:46:26 AM
Stop - thanks for the helpful recommendation.....

You're welcome - just who I am - helpful  [evil]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 01, 2012, 12:44:34 PM
You're welcome - just who I am - helpful  [evil]

Stop- you are such a bad influence.  My wallet is severly weeping.  This is going to get me committed to Modders Anonymous.

Just purchased - Ohlins Steering Damper with the Motowheels under folk mount and OZ Piega Rims.

DAMNNNNN YYYYOOOUUUUUUU [beer]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on June 01, 2012, 01:21:23 PM
Again: you're welcome  [thumbsup] (don't damn the hand that feeds you)

How are you going to fit the under frame steering damper to your bike?


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 01, 2012, 04:19:13 PM
Again: you're welcome  [thumbsup] (don't damn the hand that feeds you)

How are you going to fit the under frame steering damper to your bike?

Going to use this damper:
http://motowheels.com/i-8576662-ohlins-steering-damper-monster-620-750-800-900-1000-s4-s4r.html (http://motowheels.com/i-8576662-ohlins-steering-damper-monster-620-750-800-900-1000-s4-s4r.html)

with this mount:
http://motowheels.com/i-6922775-mw-billet-steering-damper-mount-monster.html (http://motowheels.com/i-6922775-mw-billet-steering-damper-mount-monster.html)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on June 01, 2012, 11:45:05 PM
According to their list, it's for other bikes...


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 02, 2012, 07:10:17 AM
Moto's site is wrong.......Called Kyle's Racing in the US and they have the correct models listed. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Uncle Mofo on June 02, 2012, 07:17:25 AM
 [bacon] sweet


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: stopintime on June 02, 2012, 07:58:59 AM
Moto's site is wrong.......Called Kyle's Racing in the US and they have the correct models listed. 

You just reversed our roles  [bang] If you can tell me that this kit goes on without oil cooler or horn clearance issues....

Of course, I will need pictures  [leo]


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 02, 2012, 10:28:17 AM
You just reversed our roles  [bang] If you can tell me that this kit goes on without oil cooler or horn clearance issues....

Of course, I will need pictures  [leo]

Hahah well I might stand corrected Stop and roles will be right and the world will no longer be FLAT!.

Part arrives tomorrow then surgery starts. 

Next thing I need to do is unload the Rims I currently have......


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 02, 2012, 10:29:16 AM
[bacon] sweet

Gettin the bike ready for Indy.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Uncle Mofo on June 02, 2012, 07:15:05 PM
Gettin the bike ready for Indy.
Can't wait to see it in person. You might want to post your rims on our forum. There's
a member who was looking for a S2R set of rims.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: teddy037.3 on June 05, 2012, 08:05:36 AM
Stop- you are such a bad influence. 

'round these parts, the correct term is "evil enabler"


 ;D


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800 [New Pics]
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 05, 2012, 04:24:20 PM
New pics up on Saturday.......But here are my new OZ wheels.....
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0575.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0576.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0577.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 10, 2012, 04:47:49 PM
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0581.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0587.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0586.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0583.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0585.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0584.jpg)
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0594.jpg)

Completed list of modifications:

SUSPENSION
Showa Fully Adjustable Forks (999) with RaceTech Springs
Penske 8983 Adjustable Shock with 180lb spring
Ohlins SD154 Steering Damper

CHASIS
Ducati yellow with Gun metal grey center racing stripe
Speedymoto SBK Triple Tree
OZ Piega Forged Alum. Wheels
65mm Brembo Goldline Caliper Brakes
Shorai Battery

ENGINE
Fast Frank Lightened Flywheel
Yoyodyne Clutch Slave Cylinder
Speedymoto Belt Covers
Teclusion EFI
Race ECU by Houston Superbikes
Arrow Full Race Shotgun Exhaust

OTHER BITS
DP 999 CF Front Fender
DP Rear Hugger
848 Clutch/Brake Masters Cylinders
Rizoma Reservoirs
CRG RC2 Levers
Woodcraft Clipons
CRG Lane Splitter Mirrors
Gilles Tool Rearsets
Clear Taillight with Integrated Turn Signals
SSR Quick Change Sprocket
Gold DID Chain
14T Front Sprocket
SpeedyMoto Frame Sliders
DucaBike Gas Cap


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: corey on June 11, 2012, 01:27:28 PM
yumz. weight diff?


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: ajw85 on June 11, 2012, 01:42:57 PM
How do we get your bike on the front page?
[bow_down]

Those rotors are sick


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on June 11, 2012, 01:49:12 PM
Those rotors are sick

???

Galfer full-floaters are good and an upgrade over stock, but they are not 'sick'...

to the OP, nice yellow bike


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: ajw85 on June 11, 2012, 04:11:09 PM
???

Galfer full-floaters are good and an upgrade over stock, but they are not 'sick'...

to the OP, nice yellow bike

rephrased, they 'look very nice'


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on June 11, 2012, 04:13:24 PM
oh yeah, they do look nice.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 14, 2012, 08:40:27 AM
yumz. weight diff?

I post up weight difference this weekend, however, I can tell you that both OZ wheels feel lighter than my 10 spoke rear wheel.  These things are light.  I can only imagine the ride difference if someone went from stock to BSTs or something crazy like that!

How do we get your bike on the front page?
[bow_down]

Those rotors are sick

Thanks for the compliment  [thumbsup].  It's been almost a year of searching for the right parts and pieces.  I'm not sure she's worthy of being on the front page.  There are tons of Ducs here that are impressive.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on June 22, 2012, 02:28:59 PM
More pics with the black and yellow tank and seat cowl...

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0002.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0004.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0008.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0009.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0014.jpg)





Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: The Don on June 22, 2012, 02:38:11 PM
There is just the right amount of everything on you bike, very tasty


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on July 30, 2012, 08:59:26 AM
Black Metallic Pearl + Carbon Fiber S4R Stripe Kit + My Wallet = ???


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: seanster on July 30, 2012, 09:11:52 AM
do you know if that rear mud-guard would fit a '00 M750?  Thanks!


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on July 30, 2012, 09:17:16 AM
I highly doubt it.  Just because of the way it attaches to the swingarm. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: seanster on July 30, 2012, 09:20:57 AM
Good to know!  Thanks!  and good job again on the build!


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: uglyducky on July 30, 2012, 10:00:56 AM
looks siiiiiiick  :o good job and congrats


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on August 01, 2012, 04:38:11 PM
looks siiiiiiick  :o good job and congrats

Thanks UD. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on August 01, 2012, 04:41:09 PM
(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/Untitled.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0058.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0057.jpg)

(http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/wbamiduro/Project%20Stealth/DSC_0055.jpg)


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Raux on August 01, 2012, 11:17:34 PM
LOVE the pursesnatcher damper


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: ducrider45 on August 02, 2012, 11:52:39 AM
LOVE the pursesnatcher damper
I fought over the location to install mine. Mine ended up under the tail, tucked in the passenger hand rail (riders left). I can still get to the adjustment knob. I'm not so keen on this placement. I love the bike though. this bike has a high level of finish. Nice job! The mods never end!


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: Raux on August 02, 2012, 12:22:15 PM
Actually I meant the side steering damper.


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: junior varsity on August 02, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
well *i* knew what you meant. 


Title: Re: Frankenmonster S2R800
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on August 02, 2012, 07:14:48 PM
I fought over the location to install mine. Mine ended up under the tail, tucked in the passenger hand rail (riders left). I can still get to the adjustment knob. I'm not so keen on this placement. I love the bike though. this bike has a high level of finish. Nice job! The mods never end!

Thanks.  I thought about under the tail but didnt have a long enough line.  Just painted the yellow belt covers red so I think that does it.  Very happy with the tank and CF stripe kit.  Now to start on my S4R project.....  This should be another money draining adventure. 


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