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FP1
1   27   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   311.4   2'03.748   
2   58   Marco SIMONCELLI   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   304.6   2'04.407   0.659 / 0.659
3   1   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   305.3   2'04.756   1.008 / 0.349
4   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   302.3   2'04.778   1.030 / 0.022
5   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   309.0   2'04.910   1.162 / 0.132
6   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   305.1   2'05.007   1.259 / 0.097
7   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   304.6   2'05.130   1.382 / 0.123
8   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Mapfre Aspar Team MotoGP   Ducati   307.9   2'06.158   2.410 / 1.028
9   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   306.7   2'06.274   2.526 / 0.116
10   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   299.1   2'06.573   2.825 / 0.299
11   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   299.5   2'06.774   3.026 / 0.201
12   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   302.0   2'07.075   3.327 / 0.301
13   7   Hiroshi AOYAMA   JPN   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   306.9   2'07.459   3.711 / 0.384
14   24   Toni ELIAS   SPA   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   305.5   2'07.616   3.868 / 0.157
15   65   Loris CAPIROSSI   ITA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   299.6   2'08.225   4.477 / 0.609
16   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   300.5   2'09.310   5.562 / 1.085

FP2
1   27   Casey STONER   AUS   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   304.8   2'15.666   
2   58   Marco SIMONCELLI   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   298.4   2'16.463   0.797 / 0.797
3   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Team   Ducati   296.1   2'17.070   1.404 / 0.607
4   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   298.5   2'18.109   2.443 / 1.039
5   1   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   299.0   2'18.683   3.017 / 0.574
6   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   300.3   2'18.783   3.117 / 0.100
7   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Yamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha   296.6   2'18.820   3.154 / 0.037
8   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   Ducati   294.7   2'19.009   3.343 / 0.189
9   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   293.5   2'19.435   3.769 / 0.426
10   24   Toni ELIAS   SPA   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   293.1   2'19.612   3.946 / 0.177
11   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   298.5   2'20.337   4.671 / 0.725
12   65   Loris CAPIROSSI   ITA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   290.7   2'20.607   4.941 / 0.270
13   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Mapfre Aspar Team MotoGP   Ducati   296.3   2'20.639   4.973 / 0.032
14   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   291.7   2'20.982   5.316 / 0.343
15   7   Hiroshi AOYAMA   JPN   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   304.8   2'21.026   5.360 / 0.044
16   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   271.4   2'24.724   9.058 / 3.698

Go Nicky. I would really like to see him start beating his team mate. Although as an Australian I have an alliegance to Stoner, but  Nicky has always been a favorite of mine. I've said it before, he'd make a great son in law. 8)

Simo is a new challenger to the aliens.

 Rossi has become human, the monster of a Ducati has seen to that.
I hope people are starting to really appreciate what Casey has achieved on that bike.

Fixed  ;D I think we all appreciated how he was able to ride it!

Casey didn't care if he crashed.  Rossi does.  That's really the difference between the two in my opinion and why Stoner took that bike to another level.... when he wasn't crashing it.  Casey's raw speed is the fastest of anyone anyway, outside of maybe a healthy Pedro.  His issues have never been speed.   Just consistancy and the bike.

I didn't get to watch the FP's yet but I'm happy to see Hayden up there

Apparently the conditions were less than desirable

FP1 was dry, FP2 started out wet and didn't get fully dry.

FP1 Rossi was tiptoeing around with Abraham for about 8 laps.  :P

Stoner is kickin' ass and takin' names.

I am just glad Edwards is out there turning laps...I think it speaks volumes to the Pedrobot and Puig...

Just had Stoner 1st place now and save the gas.   :(

Let Randy-DP ride his bike into a concrete wall (jump off first of course) and save the gas.   :(

You know what, just use the last two race results for this week.  Think of all that gas and tires they'll save!  How many more riders and teams can they get to join when expenses are cut down?


Just trying to say the last few races have been boring.   :(



Moto2 and different case..............

The Stoner train chugs on....

What was up with Rossi so far this weekend?

I had to watch the FP's and QP with the sound off...

...My son feel asleep watching Stoner spank the world

Somebody wake me up when the WSBK races in Misano start. ;D Some how it doesn't surprise me to see Edwards 8th on the grid. [thumbsup] Hell, if they had let him he was ready to start last weekend's race and put in two laps then pull out. Tough SOB! One day after collarbone surgery! Someone hand Pedrobot a box of Kleenex to wipe up his tears. [laugh] Fast kid but just too brittle.

QUALIFYING

Pos  No.    Rider                     Bike       Time          Diff    Diff Previous
1    27    Casey STONER         HONDA    2'02.020         
2    58    Marco SIMONCELLI    HONDA    2'02.208    0.188    0.188
3    1    Jorge LORENZO          YAMAHA    2'02.237    0.217    0.029
4    11    Ben SPIES               YAMAHA    2'02.677    0.657    0.440
5    4    Andrea DOVIZIOSO      HONDA    2'03.212    1.192    0.535
6    17    Karel ABRAHAM         DUCATI    2'04.151    2.131    0.939
7    69    Nicky HAYDEN          DUCATI    2'04.304    2.284    0.153
8    5    Colin EDWARDS         YAMAHA    2'04.508    2.488    0.204
9    19    Alvaro BAUTISTA      SUZUKI    2'04.520    2.500    0.012
10    14    Randy DE PUNIET    DUCATI    2'04.589    2.569    0.069
11    7    Hiroshi AOYAMA       HONDA    2'04.919    2.899    0.330
12    8    Hector BARBERA       DUCATI    2'05.164    3.144    0.245
13    46    Valentino ROSSI      DUCATI    2'05.781    3.761    0.617
14    24    Toni ELIAS             HONDA    2'05.862    3.842    0.081
15    65    Loris CAPIROSSI    DUCATI    2'06.256    4.236    0.394
16    35    Cal CRUTCHLOW    YAMAHA    2'07.911    5.891    1.655

The Ben 4th, sweet!

Rossi 13th?
He and Burgess will have to work hard to pull a rabbit out on this one.  :P

Crutchlow fell hard, and broke his.... collarbone.

shit!

Not to worry.  He's a Tech 3 rider.  He just needs a bottle of whiskey, a steak and a BJ and he'll be good to race by Tuesday.   [thumbsup]

Rung his bell too...concussion.

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Fack. Sure, he's never raced there. But still...maybe the ultimatum he gave to Ducati was for real?

How odd it is that Paris' moto125 team stays at the Holiday Inn Express [laugh]

which one was that?

A paddock rumor (trying to recall where I saw it) that he gave them until Mugello to sort the bike and make it competitive. He's under contract, so it's hard to see how he could do anything but make empty threats. But still...

On another note, Stoner's showing his douchebag side again:
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-stoner-questions-haydens-effort/ (http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-stoner-questions-haydens-effort/)


 [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]

There are other people on track? How DARE they!

I'm Australian, but he better lay off the kid. Nicky's my future son in law. .

I'm been thinking of Casey as a whingeing POM more and more lately.

But seriously though, Casey will look back and greatly regret that outburst against such a gentleman of the sport. The lad sure has a temper.
 Iike I didn't at that age...
Thing is, you don't want to hurt your credibility.

Like him or not Nicky is a good stand up kid who always takes responsibility for his performance and actions. He is not one to be throwing stones at. I'm not sure of the exact on track action Stoner is referring to but IF Nicky was at fault I'm sure he would be the first to man up and say he was wrong and apologize. Who on the grid doesn't like Hayden? Stoner should be careful, I know Vale likes Nicky a lot and he might just give Stoner a smack down for pissing and moaning about his new teammate. [laugh] Is it just me or does Stoner ever stop pissing and moaning? Track skills aside he's a whiner!

By the way, you could do a lot worse than having Nicky as a son in law! [thumbsup] [clap] [popcorn]

Stoner is batshit fast...no denying it.

He's also the biggest douchebag I've seen since Mladin.

Get over yourself Casey. [roll]

therein lies the difference really you said it.  but it comes down to one thing.

YOUTH.  Stoner still has it and is stupid so he could ride it crazy, Rossi is a bit older and knows how much it hurts to crash a lot.

In this sport i think the fast guys don't "get slow" they lose their nerve as they get older.

yeah stoner at times does whine a bit but remember he is young and basically a gifted rider, so he will have to learn humility with time, it happens to us all.  remember he was a young champion and such so he is sort of a cry baby when things don't go his way perfectly.

but he is absolutely killing them when it comes to races,

It's going to be another wet race.

Maybe it will actually be fun to watch.

Maybe Stoner will get all the sand out of his vag

Great race effort by Edwards!! Can't believe he did that so soon after serious collarbone surgery. Again, just a tough SOB... and a talented one! [thumbsup] [Dolph]

Sounded like the race was miserable! Cold and wet. :P [bang]

Stoner lapped RdP and Barbera.

The Ben and Lorenzo both went down in the same lap.

Maybe some day Simo can finish a race.

I was nice to see Hayden running good laps and  [clap] to Edwards

Overall not a bad race

I believe I read where Nicky put in the fastest lap of the race (17th) when Bautista was chasing him!

Yes big  [clap] [bow_down] [beer] to Edwards!

 [thumbsup]   [thumbsup]

colin edwards, the biggest badass in racing.  haha

and i am sincerely hoping that every other race this season is a wet one... it's pretty boring unless it's raining

Now as many of you know in Moto GP the only reason that any team mate like each other is that they are not a threat, not taking anything away from Nicky I think he is a great bloke.
That thing about Vale smacking stoner, please [roll]
Anyone hear what the outcome was with Ben Spies apparently he was in the medical rooms with back pain after his crash

Yes he is.  I'm very happy he got a podium finish.  He deserves it!


Exactly!  Otherwise it would have been the same old thing.

And that's why I think they should use old touring tires for the races.  Worn out, old, hard as a rock and questionable tires.  That would make the race so much more interesting. 

During the race I was mentioning how Loren-dope would not handle catching up to Stoner well.  Seconds later he throws the bike down. 

The problem is now:  which d-bag do you want to see win, Loren-dope or whiny Stoner?

Vale smacking Stoner was a joke. ;D But I do remember at the final 2006 race when Hayden won the Championship Rossi said that if he had to loose the Championship to anyone that year he hoped it was Hayden. And he seemed genuinely sincere and happy for Hayden. And has since said many nice, sportsman-like comments about Hayden. Long before they were current teammates.

No, I have not heard or read anything about Spies. Hope he's OK... obviously. [thumbsup]

The third faller in the MotoGP class was Ben Spies, the Texan crashing unseen by the TV cameras. He fell heavily, sliding into the wall and hitting it with his back, his back protector destroyed in the crash, but allowing Spies to come away bruised, sore, but largely unhurt. The quality of protective gear is pretty impressive at the moment, though there is always room for improvement.

http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/06/13/2011_silverstone_motogp_sunday_round_up_.html (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/06/13/2011_silverstone_motogp_sunday_round_up_.html)

Didn't we already have the opinion that they should turn on the sprinklers for every race? Maybe through in a cobra or 2.

Stoner - crazy fast
Factory Yama's - WTF? Those guys need lessons on how to ride in the wet.
Ducati - Nicky has always been a cautious rider. His riding style is suited for the wet. Rossi can back from the last row to get a 6th. If he would have put in a better effort in QP, he would have probably battled for at least 4th.
Edwards -  :o  [bow_down] That guy is beyond words.

I'm liking the cobra idea! [laugh]

Colin Edwards on stage at Silverstone 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdqTMPwjqR8#normal)

I like that guy. ;D

Great interview  [thumbsup]

"Colin Edwards... On no drugs at all"

No kidding!  That's good stuff right there.

With all that Vale gives to MotoGP sometimes I doubt if it could ever make the beast with two backsing come close to Colin Edwards contribution! [laugh] He is one talented, tough son of a pregnant dog and he is one funny mother make the beast with two backser! Who else on God's green Earth could ever get away with saying that shit? [laugh]
OK, he seems like he's two or three beers into it but hell, that's who he is! No shit, I had to watch that twice! [clap] And probably will several more times. How great for a group of fans at a race to catch that act? He puts Jay Leno to shame! [cheeky] Racing will certainly suffer in the great character department when he hangs it up! Looks like I need a Dad's Day gift trip to his bike camp in the TX hill country!! [thumbsup] [Dolph] [beer] Dirt bikes, guns, go karts, drinks and Colin Edwards... what could possibly go wrong? [laugh]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the idea for the sprinklers was for F1, not MotoGP.  The rain shakes things up a bit, but in the end the racing is still crap because half the field chucks their bikes in the gravel.  The grid numbers are embarrassing as it stands, so losing more bikes just makes it look pathetic.

Is it just me or do others see the shift back to 1000cc bikes as a pathetic effort to fill the grid? I like MotoGP (not nearly as much as WSBK) but I just don't see happy days in the future. The world economy is still pretty much in the dumpster, the factories can't be happy with their economic situation (anyone see Suzuki on the grid in 2012??) and what can DORNA do to fill the grid? Hold a gun to the head of Kawasaki and make them field a team?? [bang] Someday somewhere someone has to ask: who cares about a Honda, Yamaha and sorta a Ducati race series? Just saying... [roll]

I have the same thought. Plus there's an elephant in the room: when Rossi retires, how much of the series' audience will go?

I do see big trouble too with the grid and GP.  After watching the Silverstone moto2 race, I was seriously thinking - just drop the GP class, make moto2 where it is at for the prestige level.  If it takes a standard engine package to do it, so be it.  It was great watching Smith come from starting 28th to finishing 2nd - unbelievable.


mitt

Glad to see I didn't get the shit kicked out of me for that post. :o I have thought that for awhile and I see that some of you have had the same thoughts. Yeah sure, I love WSBK but I also love MotoGP and worry about it's future. Like F1, it's expenses are through the roof compared to WSBK... or I assume they are. I'd love to see a comparison of MotoGP viewers/fans vs WSBK. Of course that's what prospective sponsors would be looking at too. I have no idea, but I hope the new displacement rules will have a positive effect on MotoGP. But it's hard to turn back the hands of time to 2006! [thumbsup] [Dolph] [beer]

if/when he retires, someone had better pay him a ridiculous amt to be a commentator. 

Sounds like I need to start watching Moto2. . .

Here's the thing -- imagine what Colin is like drunk.  Or what he's going to be like when he old and has dementia?  It'll be even more awesomerest.  


Here's my off-the-top-of-my-head formula:  go to 1000cc, ditch the Bridgestone tires for something else--anything else, and get rid of the fuel limit.  Moto2-esque spec engines would make it even better.  Hell, make it a CRT-only series and that'd be a blast as well.


Hellz yeah.  It's amazing week in and week out.  And if you're not watching AMA Daytona Sportbike (the 600s), you're missing out sumptin' fierce as well.  You can skip the superbike, cuz while it's good, DSB is just awesome.

Wow - he went everywhere with that.  Like someone else said, who else could say those things and get away with it.   [thumbsup]


mitt

Edwards can be Edwards as long as he's (almost  ;D) always finishing races down around the middle of the pack.

No one takes him seriously as a week-in-week-out podium contender, so he gets away with playing the entertainer.

Would be different if he were an alien...(now that's an image)

Hell yes it is! I just watched the recording of last Sunday's race. Woo Hoo! Makes me want to go out and get a 600. Wait a sec, I already have an 848.  ;D

imagine?

yeah no shit. ;D

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jun/110617loq1.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jun/110617loq1.htm)

So Edward's wife doesn't have the humor gene in her DNA either. He and I have more in common than I thought! [laugh]

Try not to marry a girl without a humor gene  [roll]...it leads to this while you're trying to keep her happy..  [bow_down]

then this when you realize nothing you do will make her understand your style  [bang]

and this when you just don't care anymore... [coffee]

Sometimes it'll then degrade to this when you think the grass is greener...  [evil]

But...if you suffer it out, that's when things actually start to get interesting, like this    :-*

because, in the end, you'll always still have this  [Dolph]?

I'm liking thought's version! [laugh]