Ducati Monster Forum

I'm thinking about upgrading from a 620 to a S2R 1000. Has anyone gone from a smaller monster to a S2R and if so can you comment on the new bike and any differences from the smaller bike.

Also any S2R owners out there that ran in to any issues with the bikes or expensive repairs?

Thanks!

I recommend it! I went from a 2001 Monster 750 to an S2R1000 with full Termignoni exhaust. They are quite different. The power from the dual spark 1000 engine is awesome. My only complaint is the engine's difficulty maintaining idle. Once it warms up enough it's good. The stock suspension settings are crap, but they are adjustable. I worked on them for a while to make the bike feel more connected to the road.

I went from an M800 to the S2R1k and the duel spark motor is great. I've added a full Arrows exhaust end eliminated the o2 sensor. Would have added a PC III but they never made one for S2R1k. Recently upgraded the suspension with Racetech goodies: springs and valves and it feels like different bike, well worth the $$.

i did the exact upgrade that you are contemplating.  rode an '03 620 for 2 years, then bought an '06 s2r1k.  no regrets whatsoever.  power is great, as others have said.  suspension is so much better.  love the dry clutch. 

i too had issues with stalling and holding idle as mentioned above.  but one trip to my mechanic for some valve adjustments and TB re-syncing cured that problem.

let me know if you have any more questions about the upgrade.  [thumbsup]

Same here.  After not riding since my childhood, I got back to riding on a 03 M620.  Absolutely enjoyed it for 1 1/2 year.  I then upgraded to a S2R1000.  It's a completely different animal.  I think there are quite a few of us here who did the same.  

Below was the link to my post.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=32898.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=32898.0)

The only downside of that upgrade was the tank - going from a 03 steel tank to a 07 polymer tank.  You will find out more later.  ;)

It's great to hear from so many riders that have upgraded. Goat_herder I remember reading your post a while ago thinking it would be very cool to get a S2R.

I think this is what happens to many 6xx monster riders. You get through all the normal mods and then you start thinking about suspension and brake and as the $$$$$ add up you realize it makes more sense to just trade up.

I never thought there would be any reason to need a 1000cc bike. The little 600 if pushed is really enough for the twisty back roads I like to ride. But the suspension and brakes are the weak link. Also I have to say on long trips it would be nice not to be at the top end of the RPM range for hours at 85mph.

Hopefully I find something nice on the east coast before fall.

There have been quite a few S2R1000 on sale in the For Sale section.  There might still be some there.  Also, keep you eye out on ebay and craigslist.  Good luck bike hunting!

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695 x 2 years to S2R1K full arrows DP RACE ECU Ohlins rear
Chalk and cheese the S2R is amazing fun.  [thumbsup]

Any one out there care too comment please for me ,

 I have the chance to throw on some forks
from a mates late model S4R they have the gold staunchions ,........ any benefit ?
Would they have better valving or too similar to the stock S2R to make it worth it.
cheers

Do the swap. S4R forks have linear rate springs, much better valving, and Titanium Nitride coating on the sliders.

S2R1000 forks are really just shitty low-end forks with adjusters. They can be made to work a lot better, but only after significant expense. A revalve and respring minimum. The S4R forks should work loads better as a matter of course.

You could then sell off your stock forks for a tidy financial offset. As I understand it parts like that are hard to come by in Australia.

Cheers berg  [thumbsup]

I went from an 00' 750 to an 08' S2R. There are many improvments. SSS, better brakes, better suspension, a little more HP ( my 750 dyno'd at 80 after jet kit) I guess that my S2R has 85. Fuel injected (pros and cons) And depending on your likes, it will become increasingly difficult to find first gen styling. IMHO you've just gotta do it.

'03 620 --> '07 S2R1K

I loved my 620, but the hoonability of the s2r is incredible!

Me too, went from 03 620 to S2R1K.  Both great bikes but the S2R is definitely the next step up, and the best all-around Monster IMHO.

Just FYI, mine is for sale, but haven't listed it here yet.

http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2451194879.html (http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/2451194879.html)

hoonability?

Interesting thread. I'm on a 620 at the moment. I LOVE it, more than enough power for my current level of ability. I can tell that in a year or so I am going to want to move onwards and upwards - the acceleration doesn't feel so amazing anymore now that I'm used to it  [roll]

Great to see so many people have moved to bigger Monsters and are happy with the upgrade, I don't think I would buy any other model of naked bike now so I'm glad there are big brothers to the 620!

Very Nice Bike!!  I don't think I can make it to Austin anytime soon though.
What are you replacing the S2R with so in a couple more years I will know what to be looking at :)

i have a 620 and a streetfighter.  i love the comfort and feel of the 620, but it really doesn't have enough power. 

Thanks.  I don't have anything in mind to immediately replace it but I think I'd like to try a KTM Adventure or Super Duke next. 

Hoonability: the ability to engage in mischief while on a motorcycle. [evil] ;D

03 620 to a '10 1100 seven years later. The differences in just about everything but the Ducati name are like night and day. Wish I had upgraded years ago but I still ride the 620 as much possible. If go for a 796 if you want to make an upgrade.

I have a Monster 750, and added a 900SS to the garage, and the upgrade was amazing!  The FI 900cc motor is tons of fun, so I'm sure the DS1000 is even more fun!

JM

I have let a grand total of 4 different people ride my bike. They have all (independently) bowed down afterwards. You need one. It's by far the best bike ducati ever made

As bad as I was to to power wheelies on the 900SS, I'm sure I'd get amazing front tire life on the 1K  [evil]

JM

You definitely have to be careful in second.  [Evil]

I went from an '03 620 to a '99 900.  While I lost fuel injection, I spent less money and got adjustable suspension, aftermarket pipes, dry clutch (open cover), more torque and lower insurance.


I enjoyed the 620, it was very easy to maneuver (the 900 isn't much harder), but love the wider tire of the 900 and how I was able to get rid of my chicken strips.  The 900 doesn't have too much more horsepower than the 620, but it has more torque.  If you can swing it, get your new bike before you sell the old one-then you can ride them back to back and realize you made the correct decision by buying the bigger engine bike. 

...as long as you have a Monster, life is good  8)

I was lucky...

My little M750 got to share a garage with Duck-Stew's gorgeous M900 for awhile.  He let me ride it.  [evil] 

Then he had the bright idea to call me up and tell me about a 999 that was for sale for a good price....  Yeah, I bought it.  HOLY make the beast with two backsING HELL!!!!! 

Yeah, I know it's a 4 valver, water cooled, etc...  but the point remains.  Moved from a smaller bike to a much larger one.  I went from 60ish horsepower to 140.  The power is addicting.  You'll not want to go back!  ;D

Go for it... get the s2r.  You won't regret it!  [thumbsup] [Dolph]




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I've had my S2R1K since new in 06 and still love it.
After spending several years on a 620 you should be ready for the step up with no problem.
Motor wise there is no comparison, it will no leave you wanting more unless your idea of enough power is something that will run 160+... the DS motors have a near perfect "Real WOrld" power.

Brakes and SUspension.. the 320 mm brakes on the S2R1K are very capable and while there are now brakes that are "Better" they are really only marginally better in the "Real WOrld" and that is debatable.
Rear Shock.... probably the weakest link .... best upgraded to something else when $$ allow although I've never upgraded mine
Forks.... I do not agree with one posters comment that they are bottom line forks.. they are fully adjustable and with a modest amount of $$ you can get a decentdrop in kit with springs and valving setup for your skills/habits/weight. A complete Ohlins drip in is available as well.


My best mods have been the Support for the Windshield and the slightly taller MRA windscreen
Just recetnly added the inline gadget that hels the idle running surge that is common and it seems to have done the trick, the Arrows purr and very little pop on decel now.

I've ridden for 40 years and have not tired of my monsetr yet.. I do have another couple of bikes though so it is not a do everything bike for mealthough it is quite capable at that as well as long as you aren't doing any gravel!

Two Dogs and Ducatiz have the same sense of humor...  S4R or nothing-