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Moto Board => Accessories & Mods => Topic started by: Dave H on July 01, 2011, 09:46:21 AM



Title: Powder coat wheels
Post by: Dave H on July 01, 2011, 09:46:21 AM
Can you powder coat the 1100 wheels, like the black ones but the older ones are silver or gold?


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: Raux on July 01, 2011, 09:47:16 AM
a lot of people say powdercoating can weaken the wheels. better to paint.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ducatiz on July 01, 2011, 10:00:13 AM
a lot of people say powdercoating can weaken the wheels. better to paint.

If the powdercoater has done aluminum alloy wheels previously and knows the heat must be lower to cure the powder, then there should be no effect at all.  The issue is the amount of heat used to cure the powder, which if too high can affect the temper of the metal.

I've had a few aluminum wheels done and no issues. Magnesium wheels are even more tricky.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: He Man on July 01, 2011, 03:34:10 PM
the heat in powdercoating is 400degrees. it is in the oven for 1 hour. you need more than that kind of time to remove the annealing.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ungeheuer on July 02, 2011, 06:23:41 AM
paint em instead.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ChrisH on July 02, 2011, 08:18:15 AM
the heat in powdercoating is 400degrees. it is in the oven for 1 hour. you need more than that kind of time to remove the annealing.


+1 I've had several wheels powdeercoated, no problemo.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ducatiz on July 02, 2011, 10:25:50 AM
the heat in powdercoating is 400degrees. it is in the oven for 1 hour. you need more than that kind of time to remove the annealing.


Most aluminums are heat treated in the 300-325F range.   You need to tell the PC guy that this is an alu wheel.  400F at an hour is probably not going to affect the aluminum much, but IIRC the guy who did my Oscam wheels said he cures the powder at a lower temp for aluminum wheels (didn't ask the temp for some reason).  He also said they have a little harder time because they have to blast the old stuff off instead of using a chemical remover, which they use on steel with no problem.



Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: Dave H on July 03, 2011, 03:14:46 AM
I have had other alloy wheels powder coated with no problems, just wasn't sure about ducati ones


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: kopfjäger on July 03, 2011, 04:33:18 AM
I have had other alloy wheels powder coated with no problems, just wasn't sure about ducati ones

Because their Alloy is different?


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ducatiz on July 03, 2011, 04:38:18 AM
Because their Alloy is different?

It is likely it's not the same Alu alloy, but that still shouldn't matter.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: Raux on July 03, 2011, 04:40:56 AM
just for clarification. Ducati doesn't make wheels.

Marchesini
Brembo
Enkei

are OEM for Ducati


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ducpainter on July 03, 2011, 06:21:19 AM
It's not the cure temp as much as the fact many coaters use the oven to actually burn old finishes off before blasting because it's faster.

In those circumstances temps can reach 8000


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ChrisH on July 03, 2011, 06:25:35 PM
It's not the cure temp as much as the fact many coaters use the oven to actually burn old finishes off before blasting because it's faster.

In those circumstances temps can reach 8000

Sounds like a lazy powdercoater.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ducatiz on July 04, 2011, 04:04:01 AM
8000f would age aluminim to the point that it would fail under the SMallest pressure. 

None of the pc guys I've used did that;  all have used soda blasting. 


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ducpainter on July 04, 2011, 04:35:09 AM
Sounds like a lazy powdercoater.
Agreed
8000f would age aluminim to the point that it would fail under the SMallest pressure. 

None of the pc guys I've used did that;  all have used soda blasting. 
Soda or glass?

In my experience soda doesn't remove much paint.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: He Man on July 04, 2011, 08:47:24 AM
In my experience soda doesn't remove much paint.

It doenst work well on thick heavy paints like wheels, but it works wonders on the plastic tank, steel tank or anything thats softer.

And most powdercoaters don't specialize in doing special metals. Do remember that PC is originally and still is mainly used as a  cheap way to apply a protective coating on a piece of steel.



Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: ducatiz on July 04, 2011, 11:07:21 AM
AgreedSoda or glass?

In my experience soda doesn't remove much paint.

i want to say soda but now that you mention it, it probably was glass.. soda wouldn't cut too much baked on paint or powder.


Title: Re: Powder coat wheels
Post by: He Man on July 04, 2011, 08:34:11 PM
you can tell easily, glass is reclaimable and is often shot in a blast cabinet, soda is absolutely not so its shot outside in a wide open area where they can wash it away.


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